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Old 02-14-2006, 11:00 PM
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Acceptance of Oath and Contract w/Public Offoolcial

Anyone have a good format for this?


What I'd really like to do is to accept their oath, and then give them the terms and conditions thereon.

(If you breach your oath, you agree to be individually liable to me for $$$$, etc.)

Henry Franklin
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:04 AM
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Before you do this, maybe you ought to look for instances where trying to make a judge take a special oath to you, additional to the official oath he took when he became a judge, worked, had any validity, or didn't end with the litigant being charged with contempt or with trying to corruptly influence a judicial officer.
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Old 02-15-2006, 08:43 AM
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Shoonra.
You forgot one thing you treasonous traitor, THERE ARE NO JUDGES IN AMERICA !!!

Still spewing blasphemy, do you kiss your kids at bedtime with that mouth ?
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Old 02-15-2006, 10:38 AM
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That is a novel approach Henry Franklin. But you should shed the illusion that the judge is a judge to begin with. Review the requirements in the incorporation of the US in 1871 then look at any specific requirements of oaths with your daughter corporation State of XXXX.

Squirrel;

That probably was ineffective even as ventilation. If you want to undermine the snakes like Shoonra then read up over on the US Replaced by Municipal Corporation in 1871 thread.


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For a couple years suitors have been making demand under Mandatory Judicial Notice for federal judges to put a certified copy of their oath into the case jacket to no avail. Only once have I seen the clerk assure the plaintiff in writing that the judge was an Article III judge with judicial jurisdiction and that was just a clerk speaking in error. The only reason the clerk said it was in hope it would appease the demand for an oath.

I spoke to the fellow in charge of judicial oversight of federal judges in Washington DC. He found it strange anybody would ever want to see one of these judge's oaths. He said effectively, "Some judges submit their oaths to us to keep in our personnel files." [Admission it is a private corporation, the US.] So I said, "Great! You are the guy we get the certified copies from then." He quickly explained that his office never provided certified copies of anything to anybody. They were in charge of judicial misconduct and such. Crazy if you do not understand the municipal corporate structure of "government".

Henry;

If you get a grasp on the municipal corporate requirements around oaths, then you might enjoy some success applying liens and billing against violations thereof. I suspect that John Suthers was responding to corporate requirements when he quickly got his oath filed with the secretary of state. I doubt it had anything to do with the State of Colorado constitution de jure.

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Suthers ran a vacant district attorney office for eight years in the late '80s - '96. He quit his post the day after I filed proof of that in a case he was prosecuting.



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David Merrill.

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Old 02-15-2006, 01:24 PM
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Henry, if you prove by failure to file an oath by the occupant of the BigChair(TM), then why would you want His oath, since he cant be trusted to obey even the law that he *IS* supposed to know!?
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Old 02-15-2006, 11:58 PM
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Judges Statement Of Econmic Interest would revel some helpful Stuff.
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Old 02-16-2006, 04:41 PM
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Judges Statement Of Econmic Interest would revel some helpful Stuff.

I was just searching for this. Can't find a shred of info or rules or anything else about it for judges in Washington state... Where do I look for this? I've gotta face the Superior Court judge tomorrow, and would at least like to know what the requirements for this are, if any.
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Old 02-16-2006, 07:13 PM
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I was just searching for this. Can't find a shred of info or rules or anything else about it for judges in Washington state... Where do I look for this? I've gotta face the Superior Court judge tomorrow, and would at least like to know what the requirements for this are, if any.


Contact Wil Gaston (husband to the late Pamela Gaston).
They founded the Washington crusade against state sanctioned child porn ring. The name of their website is http://www.avoiceforchildren.com/
On one of their pages, there is a lot of information relative to judges per se and especially relating to Washington judges.

His email addy is avoiceforchildren@bctonline.com

Jerry.

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Old 02-16-2006, 08:12 PM
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I am not communicating I guess. We are not likely to find anthing in the weitten oath recorded or in the constitution that differs. That is why they are not affraid of this. The corporate state and sovereeign state may often be spelled the same way. Below is how we apporach it in Court and maybe you can see what we are driving at.

Your honor, the demeanor of the Court causes question: Has the Court sworn by its oath recorded to uphold our rights under the Constitution of the sovereign state of [Pennsylvania], a certified copy is of record in this case,
or is it to the corporate State of the same name subchartered under the District of Columbia incorporated as the UNITED STATES, INC. with all federal territories and possessions in 1871,which exists only in federal law where these protections are not a right, but a privilege granted by the incorporated state??


[[--objection by opposing attorney�]]
[[[ Your honor, The United States supreme Court has ruled in Hooven & Allison Co. vs Evatt, 324 U.S. 652 (1945) the term United States means any one of three different things. We are entitled to know which legal entity the Court has sworn its allegiance to. ]]]

Your honor, We are entitled to know the Court is properly sitting in its elected office under its oath to uphold the peoples� Constitution of the sovereign United States and of this sovereign state and my rights under them before it makes any ruling against me representing the authority of this state.

[[ --equivocation--]]
[Put another way your honor,][ so I must ask the Court] has the Court intended by its oath recorded to uphold this constitution of the sovereign state of Mississippi a certified copy of which is of record before the Court in this case, and this constitution of the United States, also of record before the Court, and is it this sovereign government created by this constitution whose constitution you have sworn to uphold?

--equivocation--
Under Article XIII Section 1 of the New York constitution
all judicial officers, shall, , solemnly swear (or affirm) to support the constitution of the United States, and the constitution of the State of New York, before they enter on the duties of their respective offices....And under ARTICLE 3 Section 30 its office is vacant upon its refusal of the oath or neglect to file it or its undertaking.


Your honor the oath the Court was to take recorded in Article XIII Section 1 of the state Constitution, before taking office has the Court swear to support the Constitution of the United States, and the Constitution of the State of New York.
That �s this constitution of the actual sovereign state of New York that is a part of the union of states created by this Constitution that the Court was to swear to faithfully perform all the duties incumbent upon it �.agreeably to.
before taking office.
If it is not these constitutions the Court has sworn to uphold, and this oath the Court, has taken, then according to the state constitution it is not lawfully in its office and by state law the Court, can not exercise its office or position or perform any act therein.
The Court has failed or refused to swear to perform their duties agreeably to the US Constitution and that of the sovereign state of Mississippi required of such officer by law, And its office is vacant upon its refusal and is subject to removal from office.
Its very serious question your honor.
The Court would not be properly sitting under its oaths [and bonds] of office as required by law to carry the authority and power of the state in its rulings, It has no jurisdiction to conduct any business, these proceedings would be moot and the Court would have to [[void its judgments and]] dismiss itself from the case and we would so move.]]
So we would ask the Court again, has the Court sworn its oath to uphold this constitution of the sovereign state of New York, and this constitution of the United States, also of record before the Court, and is it this sovereign government created by this constitution whose constitution you have sworn to uphold? ]]]]]]]]]]

--Court refuses to answer oath -equivocates--
Your honor, if this Court has not sworn its oath to the people�s constitution of the sovereign state of Mississippi [its office is vacant] [it is a pretender to its office].
It has no Constitutionally acquired authority carrying the power of the state to do anything,
and we respectfully demand the Court declare itself now who and what its oath is to, or [vacate its orders]
[adjourn these proceedings]and recuse itself from this case.
If more clarification is needed I will be glad to talk to anyone about it. I am at --- --- ----, Dr. Weatherly



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Dr. Weatherly,

Sir, your comments and suggestions are always welcomed by me. If you would, just explain to me a little bit clelarer what you meant below so that I can grasp the meaning. As you and I both know, he may never get certified copies of oaths of offices or will be delayed for quite some time. In the meantime, he should send an acceptance of oath of office by registered mail return receipt to the clerk of court to be filed into the record and then, if need be, say it on the record in open court and hand them another original to be placed in the evidence file. So take me from there Dr. Weatherly if you would be so kind sir.

Also, file the Affidavit of Mistake into the court via the clerk so that it becomes law. If you are nervous about walking into the court to file, this is why you can do it registered mail (international law) and stay at harm's length. Your documents should proceed you.

T





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While you wait to get the certified copies of those oaths of office, why not simply accept their oaths of office "on the record" the next time you are invited into their chambers?
I have said repeatedly, if you accept their oath before they are forced to declare who it is to, they can consider their oath to whomever of that same name they want to consider it to and you have accepted it, whether it is to a constittution that giarnatees you rights or not. Dr. Weatherly
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Old 02-16-2006, 08:57 PM
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Judges Statement of Economic Interest may be found at the county seat in the records dept. Also file a Request for an Information Practices Act at the records dept. Try asking the clerk's working there. The Judges are supposed to have a file of their finanical statements, associtions they belong to, all of their information is to be available to the public since they are a public "servant" The economic interest statement may even be held at the courthouse were they practice from? For sure there is such a thing its just a matter of finding it and then unraveling it. Thats how that Marvin Bryer guy was able to find out the judge in his daughters child custody case was an owner of the courthouse he was practicing out of in Van Nuys, Ca.
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