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The courts are against us
i would just like to say in my opinion that the courts and the justice system will continue to be against us no matter what we do. you can attack a weed or tree by attacking it at its tendrils, but to kill it you must strike the root of the infection. you can treat a disease but until y ou find a way to protect against it, others are going to be subject to the same disease. Those of you that are moving against the corruption in this system. you have limited time. everything is getting closer to crumbling around us. i estimate that we have maybe two more years before and unscheduled revolution will be forced to come about. too many things are in teh mix now to ignore and try to stop. our nation is nearly in default on the debt owed. the president is taking steps to put himself in permantent power and the bankers are going to collect on everything as the nation imposes martail law. there will be a "terrorist" attack on american soil of such magnitude to constitute a martial law imposemnt. i have direct knowledge of this from a member of IA that was told as such. that all law enforcement is too stand down when such a thing occurss and that it will happen within a time line of two years. america is headed for a massive reorginization and everything that you know will be turned upside down. beware the man with the puppet strings and the man pullllling them. there is going to be a reconing with teh government. The irs right now is destroying all records and is making plans to pull out and the private banks are collecting what is owed ot them. tehre was an audit done on the fort knox, why would this be done if the gold was still ther. i think that the gold is being moved to some secret location for the bankers.. beware i say. '
everything i say is my opinion and truthful to my knowledge.
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03-14-2006, 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by handofdespair
i would just like to say in my opinion that the courts and the justice system will continue to be against us no matter what we do. you can attack a weed or tree by attacking it at its tendrils, but to kill it you must strike the root of the infection. you can treat a disease but until y ou find a way to protect against it, others are going to be subject to the same disease. Those of you that are moving against the corruption in this system. you have limited time. everything is getting closer to crumbling around us. i estimate that we have maybe two more years before and unscheduled revolution will be forced to come about. too many things are in teh mix now to ignore and try to stop. our nation is nearly in default on the debt owed. the president is taking steps to put himself in permantent power and the bankers are going to collect on everything as the nation imposes martail law. there will be a "terrorist" attack on american soil of such magnitude to constitute a martial law imposemnt. i have direct knowledge of this from a member of IA that was told as such. that all law enforcement is too stand down when such a thing occurss and that it will happen within a time line of two years. america is headed for a massive reorginization and everything that you know will be turned upside down. beware the man with the puppet strings and the man pullllling them. there is going to be a reconing with teh government. The irs right now is destroying all records and is making plans to pull out and the private banks are collecting what is owed ot them. tehre was an audit done on the fort knox, why would this be done if the gold was still ther. i think that the gold is being moved to some secret location for the bankers.. beware i say. '
everything i say is my opinion and truthful to my knowledge.
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well, I have a greater Hope in our heavenly father that things are not going to proceed as you say.
put on hope instead.
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03-14-2006, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by handofdespair
i would just like to say in my opinion that the courts and the justice system will continue to be against us no matter what we do. you can attack a weed or tree by attacking it at its tendrils, but to kill it you must strike the root of the infection. you can treat a disease but until y ou find a way to protect against it, others are going to be subject to the same disease. Those of you that are moving against the corruption in this system. you have limited time. everything is getting closer to crumbling around us. i estimate that we have maybe two more years before and unscheduled revolution will be forced to come about. too many things are in teh mix now to ignore and try to stop. our nation is nearly in default on the debt owed. the president is taking steps to put himself in permantent power and the bankers are going to collect on everything as the nation imposes martail law. there will be a "terrorist" attack on american soil of such magnitude to constitute a martial law imposemnt. i have direct knowledge of this from a member of IA that was told as such. that all law enforcement is too stand down when such a thing occurss and that it will happen within a time line of two years. america is headed for a massive reorginization and everything that you know will be turned upside down. beware the man with the puppet strings and the man pullllling them. there is going to be a reconing with teh government. The irs right now is destroying all records and is making plans to pull out and the private banks are collecting what is owed ot them. tehre was an audit done on the fort knox, why would this be done if the gold was still ther. i think that the gold is being moved to some secret location for the bankers.. beware i say. '
everything i say is my opinion and truthful to my knowledge.
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Yep!! failing to following the law as it written.
Hang on !!
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03-14-2006, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by handofdespair
i would just like to say in my opinion that the courts and the justice system will continue to be against us no matter what we do. you can attack a weed or tree by attacking it at its tendrils, but to kill it you must strike the root of the infection. you can treat a disease but until y ou find a way to protect against it, others are going to be subject to the same disease. Those of you that are moving against the corruption in this system. you have limited time. everything is getting closer to crumbling around us. i estimate that we have maybe two more years before and unscheduled revolution will be forced to come about. too many things are in teh mix now to ignore and try to stop. our nation is nearly in default on the debt owed. the president is taking steps to put himself in permantent power and the bankers are going to collect on everything as the nation imposes martail law. there will be a "terrorist" attack on american soil of such magnitude to constitute a martial law imposemnt. i have direct knowledge of this from a member of IA that was told as such. that all law enforcement is too stand down when such a thing occurss and that it will happen within a time line of two years. america is headed for a massive reorginization and everything that you know will be turned upside down. beware the man with the puppet strings and the man pullllling them. there is going to be a reconing with teh government. The irs right now is destroying all records and is making plans to pull out and the private banks are collecting what is owed ot them. tehre was an audit done on the fort knox, why would this be done if the gold was still ther. i think that the gold is being moved to some secret location for the bankers.. beware i say. '
everything i say is my opinion and truthful to my knowledge.
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And 99.99% of what you're saying has been said for over forty years by people with the same deluded sense of fear and loathing of what they will not understand and refuse to accept - it's called reality, and the courage to dispose of mythology so readily grabbed on to when life tosses you around.
It is so easy to blame unseen forces and accept the conspiracy theories, but the fact remains, the rumor machine keeps grinding out nonsense that gullible people are more than willing to blend into their own warped view of the world.
Then when something serious happens to them, they turn to the mythologies so there is something easy to blame when the real-life system slaps them around for being gullible.
Sorry, but twenty years from now, all this will still be promoted as the same "sky is falling" nonsense that has been around for decades. Even fifty years from now, because of the Internet, some of this drivel will have survived, and even though it will have again been proven to have been nonsense, there will still be plenty of fools willing to keep the myths alive by posting it.
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03-14-2006, 07:29 PM
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The problem with the tax protest / IMF / CFR / Federal Reserve / UCC / wingnut crowd is their simple inability (as Judge has noted) to accept reality.
This stems from an utter inability to admit that they're simply wrong about the law.
When confronted with the evidence to refute their theories, the wingnuts bury their heads in the sand and will never admit their error. This inability to admit error results from the fear that all their "studies" and "research" will have been for naught should they fess up and admit the error. It is born of the shame that would result in adhering to false beliefs for what amounts to years. In effect, they would be forced to admit that they were duped ... that they are susceptible to being easily fooled by the charlatans. The solution, throw up the wall of denial ... defend the "theories" at any cost ... no matter how evident that the theories espoused by the wingnuts are ridiculous.
Fringe on a flag has some talismanic power to confer admiralty jurisdiction (although jurisdiction is founded upon the constitution and statutes - not on a piece of cloth).
Definitions never include the common meaning ... even though the definition of "includes" specifically says it doesn't exclude what is otherwise within the meaning of the term defined (and the fact that every court ever to hear such an argument has rejected it doesn't deter the tax protestor crowd).
Somehow spelling your name in all caps creates some fictional character which tax protestors think they can attach a security interest to ... not surprisingly, no court has ever bought into such whacked out theories ... and if the dupes had ever read the statute relating to UCC filings, they would realize such filings are ineffective (and downright silly).
The phrase "United States" doesn't include the State of the Union ... how ridiculous. If the wingnuts actually read the article mentioned in the Hooven case they would see that neither of the geographic definitions of "United States" excludes the States ... the States are always part of the normal understanding of what the "United States" means.
I could go on at great length illustrating the absurd theories of the wingnuts ... but there's really no point ... like I said, there will now be a parade of posts exhibiting the denial of the tax protest crowd ... they'll never admit error ... much less the possibility that they could be wrong.
Want a good analogy ... you can compare tax protestors to the Flat Earth Society ... no matter how often you try to reason with them and show them the irrefutable proof ... they don't WANT to find the truth ... their theories are more important than the truth ... and they'll defend their theories to the death ... no matter how ridiculous they look in doing so.
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03-14-2006, 07:30 PM
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By the way ... the Courts aren't against you ... did it ever occur to you that you just might be wrong about the law?
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03-14-2006, 08:35 PM
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Brickhead and Beanbag:
Define reality.
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03-14-2006, 08:55 PM
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Which law is referred to when, generically, it is referred to as simply "THE law'?
Which law is referred to when, generically, it is referred to as simply "THE law'? Origin unknown, or, not specified?
How the jurisdiction of admiralty moved inland is explained well by George Gordon [ http://www.georgegordon.org/]. He is a man who lives his life according to the Law of Moses and Mosaic Law with no government inference as he only deals in just weight and measures, gold and silver, according to Biblical Law. Men and women, born under God with unlimited liability but that we have ‘volunteered-quasi-contracted’ our birthright away in return for limited liability insurance where one TRUSTS in the government above God.
On his radio archives [ http://www.georgegordon.org/Radio_Ar....htm#Archives] is May 2005, discourse on the Common Law Part 6. On here he reads refers to a court case, JORDAN v VK TERCIO [sic], 278US123; 1815:
“ALTHOUGH COMMERCE INCLUDES TRAFFIC IN THIS NARROWER SENSE, FOR MORE THAN A CENTURY IT HAS BEEN JUDICALLY RECOGNIZED THAT IN A BROAD SENSE IT EMBRACES EVERY PHASE OF COMMERCIAL AND BUSINESS ACTIVITY IN INTERCOURSE.”
Part 1 Section 8 of the Constitution regulates COMMERCE
Commerce = intercourse
COMMON LAW – remedies a damage AFTER it occurs, everyone is responsible for their own actions, and trusts that God will provide not government
ADMIRALTY - INSURANCE: – seeks to remedy damage BEFORE it occurs, with the assumption that people are not going to be responsible for their own actions
ADMIRALTY-INSURANCE: The Warsaw Convention International Airline Accident Victims; International Airline Accident Law - International Crashes on the High Seas: If a passenger dies in an airplane crash ON OR ABOVE the "high seas," The Death On The High Seas Act (DOHSA) applies in U.S. courts. Admiralty law applies. [ http://www.aviationlawcorp.com/conte...e.html#treaty]
The International Standard Bible Encyclopedia
VESSEL: Is used freely in English Versions of the Bible to translate keli, the Aramaic ma'n, and skeuos, words all meaning "AN IMPLEMENT OR UTENSIL" OF ANY KIND [http://www.searchgodsword.org/enc/isb/view.cgi?number=T9073}
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03-14-2006, 09:51 PM
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And i didnt think or hope that a post done by me when i was a bit tipsy was going to garner all this.. go figure.
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03-14-2006, 10:14 PM
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A Romanian Prophet named Dimitru Dudamen(sp?) claimed that an Angel of the Lord gave him a vision for amerika that goes something like this (paraphrased) An internal revolution will start to break out in amerika started in secret by the communists and as the gov. is busy trying to deal with this, Dimitru saw submarines (in this vision) rise up from under the sea from russia, china, cuba, and other countries and they proceded to launch missiles into the u.s.a. and amerika as a great nation was no more. Which may tie into Prophet Ken Peters dream the Lord had given him regard the comming occupation of this country and subsequent mass executions that he saw taking place. All of these super shooter attorneys and judges with their big houses, go-fast cool guy cars, fancy boats, etc. don't want to pay any attention to that small still voice that they have been drowning out with fancy stereos and home theartre systems, but that voice is still there if one slows down enuff to listen for a minute. It probably scares the the living daylights out of 'em and thats why the (JRB & bretheren) belief that the party ain't never gonna end. Thats their "vision" of reality. You Decide: Its Called Free Will! 
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