Myth: "One phone call" when arrested

[Satori]

Originally Posted by the founding fathers

Amendment VI

In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the state and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.

So theoretically, you get however many phone calls it takes to reach your counsel.

Supposing one were to designate someone in the Sui Juris community as their counsel; if their email address were not known, they would have to allow you to access Sui Juris to get the assistance of your counsel. That creates the opportunity for a lot of assistance right there.


- Satori

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Satori

So theoretically, you get however many phone calls it takes to reach your counsel.

Supposing one were to designate someone in the Sui Juris community as their counsel; if their email address were not known, they would have to allow you to access Sui Juris to get the assistance of your counsel. That creates the opportunity for a lot of assistance right there.


- Satori

LOL

that's an awesome idear:

so, before the telephone and after the technology was suitably developed, what did people do who were arrested?

how long does it take "justice" to catch up and allow new technology to be used for its intended purpose?

how many emails can I send to contact people?

how much time can i have to wait on suijuris for Henry to show up?

"excuse me, can I use your cell to contact a site to call for help?"

where does all this end?

any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic to soeone who doesnt know how it works. (paraphrase)

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by Satori

So theoretically, you get however many phone calls it takes to reach your counsel.

Supposing one were to designate someone in the Sui Juris community as their counsel; if their email address were not known, they would have to allow you to access Sui Juris to get the assistance of your counsel. That creates the opportunity for a lot of assistance right there.


- Satori

Briliant idea! No doubt.

[Satori]

Originally Posted by idknow

how many emails can I send to contact people?

how much time can i have to wait on suijuris for Henry to show up?

where does all this end?

With a free society.

It doesn't end. Nobody authorized the government to create nor presume any encroachments on Article VI. So they can't do it. Realize, we don't get our rights from the government, we are endowed with them from our creator and the state is required not to encroach on them. So the government doesn't "permit" us to contact our counsel; they simply cannot deny it to us. If it does, we have defective process and out the case goes. Thanks to double indemnity, they would have botched the case and be unable to retry it. What I believe these days is often referred to disparagingly by the ignorant citizen as, "a technicality".


- Satori

[idknow]

Originally Posted by Satori

With a free society.

It doesn't end. Nobody authorized the government to create nor presume any encroachments on Article VI. So they can't do it. Realize, we don't get our rights from the government, we are endowed with them from our creator and the state is required not to encroach on them. So the government doesn't "permit" us to contact our counsel; they simply cannot deny it to us. If it does, we have defective process and out the case goes. Thanks to double indemnity, they would have botched the case and be unable to retry it. What I believe these days is often referred to disparagingly by the ignorant citizen as, "a technicality".


- Satori

we're dealing with eye-scaled, uneducated people.

and it sucks.

[Satori]

Fortunately, I brought my trusty eye scaler with me.

- Satori