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Old 04-11-2006, 03:56 PM
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Traffic Tickets May Lead To More Serious Charge!

Almost two years ago I received two tickets, DL and no Insurance. I signed the tickets DU and sent them back within 72 hours to the sheriffs dept. and the reserve deputy who gave me the tickets. I wrote CONTRACT REFUSED RETURN FOR CLOSURE AND DISCHARGE across them. Now a friend was helping me and got into using redemption and since then he has dumped the method he was using so I’m going on without redemption. Now the original judge has recused about a year ago and they appointed a new judge and he scheduled a hearing for the beginning of May. The problem I have is, I sent a request to the License Dept. and Dept. of Revenue for an administrative hearing on the license issue and they sent it to the wrong party and I never got it but did find a copy of a letter from the circuit judge to the judge that recused stating that the requests that I sent could be “interpreted” to be a threat or sought intimidation of a judicial officer. Any suggestions on how to handle that situation, especially in court before the judge who I believe will try and force an attorney on me?
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Old 04-11-2006, 04:53 PM
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challange jurisdiction

Challange the jurisdiction, here are a few cites you can use.


"An action by Department of Motor Vehicles, whether directly or through a court sitting administratively as the hearing officer, must be clearly defined in the statute before it has subject matter jurisdiction, without such jurisdiction of the licensee, all acts of the agency, by its employees, agents, hearing officers, are null and void." Doolan v. Carr, 125 US 618; City v Pearson, 181 Cal. 640

. "Agency, or party sitting for the agency, (which would be the magistrate of a municipal court) has no authority to enforce as to any licensee unless he is acting for compensation. Such an act is highly penal in nature, and should not be construed to include anything which is not embraced within its terms. (Where) there is no charge within a complaint that the accused was employed for compensation to do the act complained of, or that the act constituted part of a contract." Schomig v. Kaiser, 189 Cal 596.

"When acting to enforce a statute and its subsequent amendments to the present date, the judge of the municipal court is acting as an administrative officer and not in a judicial capacity; courts in administering or enforcing statutes do not act judicially, but merely ministerially". Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 583.

"A judge ceases to sit as a judicial officer because the governing principle of administrative law provides that courts are prohibited from substituting their evidence, testimony, record, arguments, and rationale for that of the agency. Additionally, courts are prohibited from substituting their judgment for that of the agency. Courts in administrative issues are prohibited from even listening to or hearing arguments, presentation, or rational." ASIS v. US, 568 F2d 284.

"Ministerial officers are incompetent to receive grants of judicial power from the legislature, their acts in attempting to exercise such powers are necessarily nullities." Burns v. Sup. Ct., SF, 140 Cal. 1.

"The elementary doctrine that the constitutionality of a legislative act is open to attack only by persons whose rights are affected thereby, applies to statute relating to administrative agencies, the validity of which may not be called into question in the absence of a showing of substantial harm, actual or impending, to a legally protected interest directly resulting from the enforcement of the statute." Board of Trade v. Olson, 262 US 1; 29 ALR 2d 1051.
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:12 PM
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Thank you mr yet.

There are some good sites there.
It was I who asked for the administrative hearing in order to get full disclosure on the DL including all the "HOOKS". It is my belief that the DL has many hooks in it which ties you into other taxing agencies and such, even the draft. Do you think they would be a little hesitant to answer those questions in an administrative hearing?
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Old 04-11-2006, 08:17 PM
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Those are some awesome cites there mr yet! I would modify ticket slayer docs to handle the traffic situation.
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Old 04-17-2006, 10:54 AM
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How can I stop them from moving forward?

The judge set a court appearance for May 2 for trial setting and I'm not sure how to stop it. They don't have a verified complaint and there was no probable cause hearing but I'm not sure how to stop them with that before the court appearance. The judge said he would issue a warrant if I did not show up this time and I did not show the last time.
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There are some good sites there.
It was I who asked for the administrative hearing in order to get full disclosure on the DL including all the "HOOKS". It is my belief that the DL has many hooks in it which ties you into other taxing agencies and such, even the draft. Do you think they would be a little hesitant to answer those questions in an administrative hearing?

It would depend partly upon the questions asked and partly upon their answers. Remember, these guys are slick and if there are any hooks, they'll be hidden in their answers. I would be sure they back up what they say by providing the laws and statutes that are the basis on the questions you ask.
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