04-21-2008, 02:30 PM
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Courts of Record
Anyone know of any good online resources for information related to courts of record , their requirements processes and procedures etc.. Thx
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04-21-2008, 02:47 PM
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It's going to vary wildly from state to state. Every state has some court of record (it's usually called the "Superior Court," but not in all states), and every state has a set of rules for those courts.
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04-21-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Libertarian
It's going to vary wildly from state to state. Every state has some court of record (it's usually called the "Superior Court," but not in all states), and every state has a set of rules for those courts.
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Yes, and don't be fooled by courts that have records kept. They do not meet the requirements/definitions/original intent of a court of record.
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04-21-2008, 06:22 PM
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There are no courts of record in Colorado unless you know what you are doing.
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Section 23. Trial by jury - grand jury. The right of trial by jury shall remain inviolate in criminal cases; but a jury in civil cases in all courts, or in criminal cases in courts not of record, may consist of less than twelve persons, as may be prescribed by law. Hereafter a grand jury shall consist of twelve persons, any nine of whom concurring may find an indictment; provided, the general assembly may change, regulate or abolish the grand jury system; and provided, further, the right of any person to serve on any jury shall not be denied or abridged on account of sex, and the general assembly may provide by law for the exemption from jury service of persons or classes of persons.
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04-21-2008, 06:26 PM
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voices, he hears voices
Anyone see anything in there that indicates there are no courts of record in Colorado?
Me either. Those voices in DiM's head are working overtime again.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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04-21-2008, 09:02 PM
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United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in Alabama or any of the new states which were formed ... The United States has no Constitutional capacity to exercise municipal jurisdiction, sovereignty or eminent domain, within the limits of a state or elsewhere, except in the cases in which it is expressly granted ...
[Pollard v. Hagan, 44 U.S.C. 213, 221, 223]
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04-22-2008, 12:33 AM
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State's Constitution
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Anyone know of any good online resources for information related to courts of record , their requirements processes and procedures etc.. Thx
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Please check your state's constitution under the judiciary section. There will usually be some reference to which courts are of record.
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04-22-2008, 03:51 AM
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Courts of record destroyed in 1933.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Removal_jurisdiction
The judicial function is for you.
Like on Page 6 attached - remember Lawdog saying something about Erler not being required to file his oath at the county clerk and recorder? Is it any wonder why Shoonra is not on my Ignore List - but Lawdog is? Lawdog just posts anything argumentative whether it is true or not whereas Shoonra backs a certain Bar and Crown Templar philosophy with facts fairly consistently.
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04-22-2008, 04:56 AM
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weird notion
Fine, it appears that Erler, being a judge of an inferior rank, has to file his oath with the local clerk of court.
But as I said...DiM posted a certificate saying they could not find that oath in the GRANTOR/GRANTEE index of the LAND DEED RECORDS.
Would someone please explain to me what a magistrate judge's oath of office has to do with LAND DEED RECORDS? Why the hell would anyone record such an oath there?
Even for DiM, that's a weird notion.
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We reject Skurdal's argument that he is a "free man" exempt from the laws because he has "no contracts" with either the state or federal governments...No persons in Montana may exempt themselves from any law simply by declaring they do not consent to it applying to them...Accepting Skurdal's assertion of exempt status is an invitation to anarchy. We decline that invitation. - State v. Skurdal, Supreme Court of Montana, 235 Mont. 291, 767 P.2d 304 at 308 (1988).
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04-22-2008, 06:45 AM
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Well, I'm in Massachusetts. There is little or no info on courts of record. Massachusetts has done a thorough job of effectively abolishing common law. This is most likely the birth place of admiralty in the US.
Yesterday being Patriot's day , my encouragement comes from the fact that they rebelled against admiralty here first as well.
After all these years, the red coats are still coming....
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