Jury Duty- How to handle a summons

[KaosTheory]

I was just wondering if any of you have ever been summoned for jury duty before and how you handled it. I have never registered to vote but I guess they are using that motor voter bullcrap around here to get people for the jury pool. Anyway, my approach was:



"RETURN TO SENDER

UNKNOWN PERSON"



Any thoughts are welcome.



KT

[Ice]

Serving on a jury is a good way to inform others of the scam that is being pulled on the people of this great land.



But, if you really want to test "them" -- go to the interview and when they ask if you have any questions ask them if the case will be a "Trial by Jury" or a "Jury Trial"... check your codes and you will find that there are 2 different types of juries... discussed elsewhere in this forum.



Asking that question will probably make you a "no call" for jury duty.



But, being on the jury gives you the chance to explain to the other jurors that you also have the right to challenge the law. And most of the laws are repugnant to the Constitution anyway... so... why not serve?

[suijuris]

My opinion is that we need informed people both at the ballot box and in the jury box. The few informed people should fighting to get in those positions, instead of fighting to get out of them.



But if you feel compelled to skip out, start asking questions like Ice said, and you will likely be relieved of your duty.



But if that was me standing trial for a victimless crime, it sure would be nice to have an informed peer on my jury! Anyone else know of a better way to reform the judicial system than pulling jury duty?

[Ice]

It is supposed to be OUR Court...

Therefore it is OUR responsibility to do all that we can to make sure that it functions properly.



I can see no better way. As SJ stated, we should be fighting to get into those positions.

[KaosTheory]

Ice and SJ,



I appreciate the responses but the problem is that I wasn't asked to jury duty. My colored trade name was sent the invite. Not to mention, the letter was sent to an ALL CAP two letter STATE denoting a fictitious FEDERAL territory.



In Title 18, you will find the codes concerning mail fraud. It is against the law to keep someone else's mail.



As for informing people of the current political climate, I don't have much luck with that. It would be nice if people even cared that the court system has been taken over but they don't. TV has convinced everyone that lawyers are freedom fighers out to set things right. My experience with people has always been the ostrich syndrome. They don't care. No one is into real conversation. It's all about idle chit chat. I can't really blame them. Life is chaotic enough just trying to maintain a decent marriage and raise a family and try to get some enjoyment out of this short life.



I'm sure you guys already know that these courts are all about color of law and not real substance law. You can't mix Law with color of law. You can't argue the Constitution in a commercial contract court unless you have reserved your rights. I am not sure exactly what you would hope to accomplish by serving on a jury really. I mean I don't see it changing anything. To me, it seems that it would be a waste of time.



SJ, you have a great site here. It feels good to be among you all.



KT

[sadie]

Ice,



You mentioned Jury Trial and Trial by Jury 2 different types elsewhere on forum



Sorry, I am unable to find this on the forum. Could you point me in the right direction?



Thank you,

[rodman652]

15 years ago I was sent a letter for jury duty, with it there was a questionare.

The 1st question "Are you a U.S. citizen?" with a check box yes or no, I checked yes but above it I wrote "Not as defined by the 14th amendment, Natural born in Michigan.



Never heard from them again.

[Ice]

Sadie,



I wouldn't know exactly where it was mentioned... but it was brought up in the forum. I would have to read every post to find it... and I really don't have that kind of time on my hands.



When I do... I'll put some more info out here... in this thread. (kinda late to do it tonight... look for it soon).



Ice

[Ice]

Trial by Jury is Rule 38 and of the Constitution. Jury Trial under Rule 39 is a counterfiet of the "Trial by Jury".



Trial by Jury (38) is where the Jury judges the fact, the law and the intent.



Jury Trial (39) is where the Jury serves in an "advisory" capacity to the Judge.



Thomas Jefferson said: "I consider trial by jury as the only anchor yet imagined by man, by which a government may be held to the principles of its Constitution."



4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals: "If the jury feels the law is unjust, we recognize the undisputed power of the jury to acquit, even if its verdict is contrary as given by the judge and contrary to the evidence... If the jury feels that the law under which the defendant is accused is unjust, or that exigent circumstances justified the actions of the accused, or for any reason which appeals to their logic or passion, the jury has the power to acquit, and the courts must abide by that decision."



16 AmJur 2d. Sec 177, late 2d, Sec 256: "No one is bound to obey an unconstitutional law and no courts are bound to enforce it."



It is our duty to keep our government on track... and we do this via the jury box as well as the voting booth.



Ice

[Ice]

KT,



I hope my above post answers your question as well. What I hope to accomplish is to keep the government within the meaning and intent of the Constitution... not the laws that are "repugnant" to it.



Ice