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Old 06-05-2006, 10:32 PM
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Can the Governmental Agency be sued? If yes, let's find links.

Good day!

1) Could anyone provide links to the information on how a Governmental Agency could be sued when it has violated both” Federal and State’s laws and proof is on the record?

2) Do you know of a single successful lawsuit against a Governmental Agency?
If yes, links please.

3) If a particular person(s), working for such agency were identified as the cause of the vioaltion of the law, would it be proper to still sue the Agency as in the case of Corporations or the person him/herself?

ps. The Agency of the issue is the Department of Insurance.
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Old 06-05-2006, 10:43 PM
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Sure, they can be sued, in their own "courts."

Are you going to get a fair hearing?

Nope.

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Old 06-05-2006, 11:45 PM
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Optimism vs. pessimism

Your post just inspired me to ponder and write these “thoughts aloud.”

Let’s develop that best in us so that we may overcome the worst I others, including Courts.

I believe we, those who search, learn, and try, are obligated to clear a path for future generation as the previous ones have cleared the path for us

If we, only, search and learn without trying, what is the use?

We are not here straight from the caves.

Much work has been done for us by others before us who even layed their lives for our opportunities.

We are the beneficiaries of such and that is not that little.

As tough it is with Justice in the US, let us consider the mighty law of relativity as applied to society.

All is relative indeed.

In some countries, they still shoot people on their way to Court.

In some Countries, people have no PC and no Internet availability...

In some countries, they can’t even read what we write.
I could go on and on….

God, we have so much in relationship to them – just compare!

Let’s be grateful for what we have received and build on that as why would we expect others to do is for us?

If we wait for Judges and attorneys to do it or the “elected” Politicians, we would be waiting for long time indeed; so would - the other generations because of our silence by acts.

Mere complaints in Forums would keep us trapped in the circle instead of breaking it open.


We have the opportunity to accomplish so much in anything we would pursue by the Higher Laws as they always supersede any laws of any Court.

We can learn from any failure and improve until start wining.
I do not doubt that.
We would never win if are afraid to fail.

Let’s open up the circle-cocoon in which they keep us and make run on the edges (in the same circles) when have to, while they comfortably sit in the center and enjoy the stability.

They spin it as they wish until we realize, we can reach the center and spinning can’t affect the center no matter how mush they try.

The center is the knowledge and ability to use it.
So let learn and use it, then we would be out of their
control.


I need your assistance (those who care) to find such links as the Dept of Insurance
must answer for what it has done (details in time).

If I look away, they would continue doing that to others.

For now, I would share this.
This Department has retaliated vs. me for writing/emailing an Article written by me based on facts and personal experience, where I exposed some of their tactics and how they use the DA in pursuit of their agenda.


The retaliation commenced within a day or so and a play of chance is virtually impossible.

I had the right to write what I wrote as I have evidence and can prove the substance of the article by such.

Not only were my rights violated but the Freedom of Speech and Press in that regard.

Links anyone?
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:38 AM
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ITs in your States constitution---You have a right to remedy a wrong. Yes, you can sue if they stepped out of bounds!

You may have to do some checking, the agency itself may NOT be sued(not sure on that), but the idividuals who have broken the law damn sure can be. They give up ANY immunity when they broke the law(or voilated your rights). Once they have gone renegade of the Constitution, its game over!

I do have case law, and people sue and win all the time. Hell, you can sue the Judge, opposing shysters, ect... Give um HELL!!
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Old 06-06-2006, 11:24 AM
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Often judges and attorney's feel as though they are above the law and that they are completely immune from prosecution for violations of fathers' constitutional rights.

Immunity is an exemption from a duty or legal punishment because of some special characteristic or status enjoyed by the person concerned. Many types of immunity exist under both criminal and civil law. In criminal law, a person may be granted immunity from prosecution in return for testifying for the state. Diplomatic immunity, in international law, is enjoyed by ambassadors and certain lower?level officials, as well as by members of international organizations. This immunity allows them to be free from most local laws. Legislators, judges, and witnesses are granted official immunity (usually from libel suits) with respect to statements made in the course of their duties. Governmental bodies enjoy sovereign immunity from civil lawsuits unless they consent to be sued.

One of the first cases that established that judges could be sued, was the joint decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in Ray v. Pierson and Pierson v. Ray, 87 5. Ct. 1213 (1967). In these cases, it was ruled that state judges lost immunity from suit when they acted without personal jurisdiction over the issues or the litigants.

The federal appeals courts took the question further. The U. S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled, in Rankin v. Howard, 633 F. 2d 844, that a state judge could be sued for money damages by a young man who had been declared incompetent by the judge who, acting by prearrangement with the young man's parents in an ex-parte hearing, declared the state had jurisdiction and he, the judge, had jurisdiction because the young man had flown into the state (lured by his parents to spend Christmas with them) while the judge knew that, by statute, he did not have jurisdiction.

. In Gomez v. Toledo, 100 5. Ct. 1920, all that is necessary to sustain a federal civil rights suit under Title 42, U. S. Code, Sec. 1983 is to allege correctly that:

A. Specific Constitutional rights were violated or denied, and

B. The violations were committed by state officers acting under color of state law, or by private citizens acting in concert with the state officers. U. 5. v. Price, 86 5. Ct. 1152, 1157, footnote 7.
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:39 PM
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That would be neat...

...if one would just show up out and join a site and ask all to do the work for them/him?

Go figure...?

All' of the research needed to accomplish this task, as asked, would be to run key word(s) into this site's search feature and remedy is within.
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Thank you, so much, "Scooterdog"

Dear Solar Citizen, I thank you for awesome post.

(explanation why use such term is at http://www.suijuris.net/forum/genera...oterica-3.html)

Your post is written in the spirit of this site and in the best style spiritually alive citizens can offer.

You gave precise examples, references, and explanations.

Superb job.

Such responses not only save my time and aid on efficiency but also help all others who may pursue the same venue.

It is a pleasure and solid assistance to read posts of people of the sound mind and good heart.

Anythings contrary to the idea behind your post and solid efforts to share what can help many, comments by some, other members are not worth to spend much time answering. A brief answer is below in the next post.

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Often judges and attorney's feel as though they are above the law and that they are completely immune from prosecution for violations of fathers' constitutional rights.

I feel that, too often, many folks who gain power abuse it. To me the “Lord of the Rings” captured the essence of such corruption beautifully.

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Immunity is an exemption from a duty or legal punishment because of some special characteristic or status enjoyed by the person concerned. Many types of immunity exist under both criminal and civil law. In criminal law, a person may be granted immunity from prosecution in return for testifying for the state. Diplomatic immunity, in international law, is enjoyed by ambassadors and certain lower?level officials, as well as by members of international organizations. This immunity allows them to be free from most local laws. Legislators, judges, and witnesses are granted official immunity (usually from libel suits) with respect to statements made in the course of their duties. Governmental bodies enjoy sovereign immunity from civil lawsuits unless they consent to be sued.

One of the first cases that established that judges could be sued, was the joint decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in Ray v. Pierson and Pierson v. Ray, 87 5. Ct. 1213 (1967).


When any one quotes actual Court Cases of direct relevance, that is huge buy itself as that is how Judges make their rulings most of the time by quoting, actually, manipulating existing Court cases to add merit to their Decisions.

The truth remains that there are usually many similar cases and opposite decisions, therefore they (cases) could be manipulated as they fit Judges' agenda.)

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In these cases, it was ruled that state judges lost immunity from suit when they acted without personal jurisdiction over the issues or the litigants.
Hmmm, it sounds (so please correct me if I am not accurate) that not the power of the Judge was abused but jurisdiction or they become the same in this case?

The federal appeals courts took the question further. The U. S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit ruled, in Rankin v. Howard, 633 F. 2d 844, that a state judge could be sued for money damages by a young man who had been declared incompetent by the judge who, acting by prearrangement with the young man's parents in an ex-parte hearing, declared the state had jurisdiction and he, the judge, had jurisdiction because the young man had flown into the state (lured by his parents to spend Christmas with them) while the judge knew that, by statute, he did not have jurisdiction.

. In Gomez v. Toledo, 100 5. Ct. 1920, all that is necessary to sustain a federal civil rights suit under Title 42, U. S. Code, Sec. 1983 is to allege correctly that:

A. Specific Constitutional rights were violated or denied, and

B. The violations were committed by state officers acting under color of state law, or by private citizens acting in concert with the state officers. U. 5. v. Price, 86 5. Ct. 1152, 1157, footnote 7.


If Under Color of Law means that the authority of the party involved was abused – that is exactly the grounds for legal suit if abuse under the Color of law can be determined.
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Old 06-06-2006, 07:31 PM
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That would be neat...

...if one would just show up out and join a site and ask all to do the work for them/him?

You can put your fears to rest; I assure you, I did not ask YOU to provide any links as, already, knew your response based on previous posts.

It was directed, only, to those who embrace the idea of sharing and brotherhood-sisterhood.

No one is obligated to share such views as they are, strictly, voluntarily as well as responses.

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Go figure...?

Obviously “scooterdog” had no problem figuring and I sense he or she didn’t, even have to go anywhere.

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All' of the research needed to accomplish this task, as asked, would be to run key word(s) into this site's search feature and remedy is within.

I would, follow on your advice, Wargamez102, and provide you with what you suggest.
Therefore, you may read the “archives” at the link:
http://www.suijuris.net/forum/articl...html#post73975

I have no reason not to believe that you would follow your own advice, then, and apply it in action.

If, you, would have questions on that, then, please, re-read that link until you have no such questions as the answers are there.


If, by any chance, the answers, there, are visible but not as visible, as you would like them to be, then, please feel free to follow your, own advice, once again, and research other archives as, I respectfully, quote you once again,

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All' of the research needed to accomplish this task, as asked, would be to run key word(s) into this site's search feature and remedy is within.”
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There is a case where I guy won against four "John Doe"s working for the FBI. I don't have the cite right now but I believe the guy lived in Shasta County California.
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How are you?
Could you, please, post the case or a link to it?
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