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Old 07-18-2007, 05:43 PM
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Jury Duty

I got this invite in the mail to Join the Jury on August 2nd.

One of the exceptions on the list to not go is that you are not a U.S. Citizen.

Has anyone ran into this before and what did you do about it?
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:14 PM
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Well?...are you a US citizen? Read "The Red Amendment".
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Old 07-18-2007, 10:01 PM
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I got this invite in the mail to Join the Jury on August 2nd.

One of the exceptions on the list to not go is that you are not a U.S. Citizen.

Has anyone ran into this before and what did you do about it?
Yes.

I was recently given a notice for jury duty. There was a questionare that I was to fill out and return. I indicated that I was a national, rather than a U.S. Citizen. I got another notice informing me that, "YOU HAVE BEEN EXCUSED FROM JURY SERVICE." I guess the courts don't want me.

By the way, it is not my wish to avoid jury service. In fact, the opposite is the case.


http://www.suijuris.net/forum/citize...highlight=jury

http://famguardian.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=9

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/h...1----000-.html
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Old 07-19-2007, 02:56 PM
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By the way, it is not my wish to avoid jury service. In fact, the opposite is the case.

Me neither but I noticed that check box on the return form.
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Old 07-19-2007, 03:15 PM
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i revoked my voter's registration the 1st wed in may and saturday my jury summons came dated the same date of my voter revoke letters... 32 years in the same city and never on jury duty once.... the day i revoke and they call. God has the best sense of humor.
i am on vacation and don't have the letter i sent but they said don't have to be a voter... then i filled the form out with footnotes on the back... been 3 times but they have never choosen me. after the first time when judge asked if everyone was us citizen and a resident of VA... i wrote him a personal letter asking what exactly he meant... he has never answered back and that was the question i had on back of the jury form.
after i sent my letter i found i had an excellent letter from jack and margie flynn that i can post friday when i get home from vacation... no liability given, no liability assumed.... Charles Sewell
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Old 07-20-2007, 07:42 AM
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I had something very similar happen. I recieved the summons and since I am not a US citizen, I have no obligation or duty to serve as a juror in their courts.

I speculate as more and more people correct the nature of their Character, and their standing in law, and proper courts are formed by the people, people (non-US citizens) will begin reciving summons for Jury duty that have no such box, to courts of the People, by the People, for the People.

IN fact, there is a duty upon the People existing in the state of Nature, or in the subcultures of it loosly called, "the serveral states", to form courts (to abate mob justice) and as more and more people correct their social status, the "state Nationals" are responsible to provide courts for their states.

If I comprehend the saving to suitors caluse, should the people fail to provide a common law remedy to suitors (i.e. hold courts of law and summon juries of the defendents peers on the compulsion of a plaintiff's sworn statement [affidavit] where the value in contraversy is more then twenty Dollars) then the District courts would have jurisdiction:

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"...the United States [of America], ... within their respective districts, as well as upon the high seas; (a) saving to suitors, in all cases, the right of a common law remedy, where the common law is competent to give it; and shall also have exclusive original cognizance of all seizures on land,..." The First Judiciary Act; September 24, 1789; Chapter 20, page 77. The Constitution of the United States of America, Revised and Annotated - Analysis and Interpretation - 1982; Article III, §2, Cl. 1 Diversity of Citizenship, U.S. Government Printing Office document 99-16, p. 741.

The People who compose the republic states of Minnasota, Nevada, New Mexico, [others?] are states that I am aware of that can and do hold court when need be.

http://www.commonlawvenue.net/main/court.htm
http://www.sovereignpeoplescourt.com/
http://www.newmexicocommonlawvenue.org/

Here is a list of meetings being conducted and the people attending could probably hold court and try suits at law, if they are not already doing so:
http://www.commonlawvenue.net/main/m...nars/GMATC.htm
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Old 08-20-2007, 12:53 AM
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Just go do the right thing, go to FIJA.org first

Go to court get on the jury, if the "person"or"individual" did not deprive any actual living complaintant (actual living complaining human being)of life,liberty, or property find that person "Not Guilty" enjoy yourself, help somebody out, you will feel great and have a great story to tell! Please go to FIJA.org and learn! Then tell everyone you know about FIJA.org if EVERYBODY knows about FIJA.org WE THE PEOPLE can take back our Country! Fully Informed Jury Association.org is great! God bless us all and speaking of God please do not spend more time on this information, than learning about and practicing your Faith! And remember to keep Government lackeys in your prayers ,as hard as that ma y seem.
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:32 AM
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Go to court get on the jury, if the "person"or"individual" did not deprive any actual living complaintant (actual living complaining human being)of life,liberty, or property find that person "Not Guilty" enjoy yourself, help somebody out, you will feel great and have a great story to tell! Please go to FIJA.org and learn! Then tell everyone you know about FIJA.org if EVERYBODY knows about FIJA.org WE THE PEOPLE can take back our Country! Fully Informed Jury Association.org is great! God bless us all and speaking of God please do not spend more time on this information, than learning about and practicing your Faith! And remember to keep Government lackeys in your prayers ,as hard as that ma y seem.
I understand what you mean, but think about this little point, if you agree to sit on the jury, didn't you just agree that you are a citizen of the corporation UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? If so, then that is something most here are trying to prevent.
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Old 08-20-2007, 01:11 PM
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I wrote a letter to the jury commissioner explaining I was (at the time) an American citizen; he wrote back saying "Fine, that is close enough - respond to the summons."

When I went in for jury duty I looked at the statutes cited - in the law library there in the courthouse. All I was required to do by statute was show up - appear. So whenever they gave me forms to fill in information I just left everything but my (then) legal name and address blank. They thought that was peculiar but no problems.

When I was in the jury box though, and I did not fill out the personal questionaire the attorneys got a little weird. The prosecutor had bottlecap glasses and held all papers up to his face so he may not have noticed. But the defender whispered a comment to the judge during a sidebar. The courtroom was so silent we could hear them whisper. The judge asked if she wanted him to ask me why and she declined - other than that he didn't seem to care. When they asked general questions they ignored that I would not raise my hand and neither attorney asked me any specific questions.

Maybe that was why I was voted foreman and they replaced the judge with a retired judge from a hundred miles away. A real old man. I suppose that since I was perfecting a jury nullification they wanted to avoid the conflict of interest of having an active attorney at the bench.

We acquitted the fellow for attempted murder on reasonable doubt. Looking back on things, my maintaining my character instead of a status created a de jure common law jury - an assize and created it organically. It happened almost naturally and pretty much seemed by accident.


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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
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Old 08-20-2007, 05:10 PM
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We acquitted the fellow for attempted murder on reasonable doubt. Looking back on things, my maintaining my character instead of a status created a de jure common law jury - an assize and created it organically. It happened almost naturally and pretty much seemed by accident.
That's a pretty good observation.
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