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UCLA Student tasered for not producing I.D.
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11-16-2006, 05:11 PM
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Yeah, that is beyond stupid, in so many ways. I hate that the sheeple all stood there and let it happen too. There should have been a riot. Almost happened... nothing like a woman screaming to set the guys in action, eh? lol.
So, my question is, how is a tazer any different than a club? They are both violent infliction of pain. Threat of violence is assault, no matter how you cut it. There at the end, that cop says "blahblah or you'll get tazerd too". That's assault. Threatening that guy with "immeninent physical harm, with the clear and present ability to do it"
And how many times did they yell "stand up"?? They pretend to make it voluntary. Why not just shackle him and drag him out? They pretend they want peaceful compliance, all the while inflicting torture and pain. The pychology of it works though, as seen by the crowd's non-reaction. If they would have beaten him into submission, someone would have acted. But since it falls into some "non-lethal zapper shock with no blood spilling" sort of routine, everyone sits passive. The guy should have started shouting "someone help me, please!!" Maybe that would incite some sense of obligation? Or maybe if he lunged himself into the crowd, the simple act of the cops breaking into people's "personal space" might have go a reaction?
I hate that these pigs can strut around giving people orders, telling them to stay back, do this, don't do that. Is it "obstructing justice" to step in and stop torture? Did they have reason to believe the guy injured someone? Were they just ticked off because he didn't sheepishly obey their first orders to leave? If the cops were right, and acting "in the interest of justice", they would have zip-tied his hands and ankles and hauled him out quickly... demanding compliance first ("stand up!") seems to indicate they lacked true authority to do what they were doing.
Can you imagine this happening in the middle of a "well armed" crowd? Now we know why they fear the citizens having guns. They can't exercise their violent nature if they fear retaliation or resistance. COWARDS. BULLY.
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11-16-2006, 05:14 PM
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Without Prejudice.
Those were very brave cops taking on a student armed with a bookbag like that.
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11-16-2006, 05:24 PM
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Yeah, that is beyond stupid, in so many ways. I hate that the sheeple all stood there and let it happen too. There should have been a riot. Almost happened... nothing like a woman screaming to set the guys in action, eh? lol.
So, my question is, how is a tazer any different than a club? They are both violent infliction of pain. Threat of violence is assault, no matter how you cut it. There at the end, that cop says "blahblah or you'll get tazerd too". That's assault. Threatening that guy with "immeninent physical harm, with the clear and present ability to do it"
And how many times did they yell "stand up"?? They pretend to make it voluntary. Why not just shackle him and drag him out? They pretend they want peaceful compliance, all the while inflicting torture and pain. The pychology of it works though, as seen by the crowd's non-reaction. If they would have beaten him into submission, someone would have acted. But since it falls into some "non-lethal zapper shock with no blood spilling" sort of routine, everyone sits passive. The guy should have started shouting "someone help me, please!!" Maybe that would incite some sense of obligation? Or maybe if he lunged himself into the crowd, the simple act of the cops breaking into people's "personal space" might have go a reaction?
I hate that these pigs can strut around giving people orders, telling them to stay back, do this, don't do that. Is it "obstructing justice" to step in and stop torture? Did they have reason to believe the guy injured someone? Were they just ticked off because he didn't sheepishly obey their first orders to leave? If the cops were right, and acting "in the interest of justice", they would have zip-tied his hands and ankles and hauled him out quickly... demanding compliance first ("stand up!") seems to indicate they lacked true authority to do what they were doing.
Can you imagine this happening in the middle of a "well armed" crowd? Now we know why they fear the citizens having guns. They can't exercise their violent nature if they fear retaliation or resistance. COWARDS. BULLY.
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Without Prejudice.
Too many folks have been blinded to see this possible reality:
1) men in costumes repeatedly electrocuted another man.
2) men in costumes interfered with justice by not providing identification themselves and by not allowing witnesses to gather evidence or hold their own court. But wait? Isnt it against the law for them to not provide identification?
3) a man armed with a bookbag didnt kiss the ass of some other men in costumes (perhaps tights and a cape would command more respect) and their ego got hurted. To overcome their penis envy hurted ego problem they kidnapped him.
4) a woman asked for ID, exercising perhaps ministerial powers was threatened with assault with a potentially deadly weapon.
Nonetheless, could his being a student be cause to presume that he contracted for such abuse? Lets keep in mind that the trend has been that of mere private security companies being given more and more Orwellian leeway.
Clearly the problem is that people arent standing up for their own rights or others. By the way: public ministers protect rights and estates.
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11-16-2006, 08:23 PM
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cowards,all of em!
it's sad to watch an entire room full of people sit by and watch one of their fellow students get tazed by enemy troops.
those cops should have had their heads handed to them,herd mentality.
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11-16-2006, 09:03 PM
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The student was completely belligerent and brought that on himself
He was pretty far from "respectfully declining"
Not that it was right what happened to him, but there is a more reasonable way to decline and object using the tenets of the 5th amdmt
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11-16-2006, 09:22 PM
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Dont know if this has anything to do w/ it .... but he was of arab decent.
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11-16-2006, 09:38 PM
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Without Prejudice.
Those were very brave cops taking on a student armed with a bookbag like that.
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With Much Prejudice
Yeah, and there were only three or four cops with guns, tasers, and bullet-proof vests! They should get a metal for bravery. That was risky! Never know if the student is a book-bag-ninja or something...
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Call to Action!!
ACTION: Call UCLA and demand an investigation into this incident. BE POLITE. 310-825-4321
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11-17-2006, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by weishaupt1776
The student was completely belligerent and brought that on himself
He was pretty far from "respectfully declining"
Not that it was right what happened to him, but there is a more reasonable way to decline and object using the tenets of the 5th amdmt
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Well, how many times have you been tased/shocked? (not a personal attack just for thought provoking)
How does one arise from the ground, voluntarily, when their muscles fail to cooperate? (catch 22 - rock and hard place)
The student was exiting the building on his own volition and the cop grabbed his arm, which set the stage. Maybe the student had an important paper due and having to leave caused him great and undue stress.
No matter, the cop is trained, (having first hand personal knowledge) to tell the human to lay still while the dog is ripping their flesh from the bone and if they don't lay still the dog gets to continue. (not unlike the catch 22/rock and hard place the student found himself in)
I know lots of people who think they are bad and can withstand the onslought of the dog or electronics up until they melt like a wet noodle when actually living the process. ( though some die )
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