US Economic Collapse Hoax

[weishaupt1776]

http://www.cuttingedge.org/newslette...ert_031808.htm

Know the truth and the truth will make you free

If you really understnd Bible Prophecy, you will see that an econmomic collapse of the US is inconsistent w/the word

If you don't want to know the truth then you will not be free - you will be in bondage

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

good site. Found this too:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1347.cfm

more tricksy mischief-making

there will be some major changes that look like an economic collapse- really just pulling away the curtain, this economy is an illusion. Get ready for the post-industrial revolution

[mrg]

Very interesting.

Thanks for posting this.

What is interesting is the idea that totally broke Americans would fight.

Is prophecy a perfect seeing and telling of an absolutely pre-determined future, or is it prediction of a future that will occur, by Law, according to free-fall dynamics of an "if...then" equation?

If the latter, might prophecy be a warning and a key to an outcome more in keeping with Design by a benevolent Creator, One who has endowed us with free-will, and thus with, at least, the potential, perhaps, for righteous self-determination?

If "hope springs eternal" within the breast of Creation, perhaps is it also an attribute of Creator?

If mankind was indeed endowed with free-will, how, and/or why, could our Creator, have an absolutely fixed pre-determined outcome?

One of the definitions of prophecy is "prediction," and of prophet, one who interprets and/or predicts.

7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a WATCHMAN unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word AT my mouth, and warn them FROM me.
(emph. added)

Ezekiel 33:7
KJV

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

I Corinthians 13:8-13
KJV

[psholtz]

There is a general trend towards globalization, and that means:

1) America has to have the same laws that every other place in the world has (otherwise you can't bring down the borders); and
2) The standard of living in America has to be brought down to a level consistent and uniform w/ that level every other country in the world (i.e., destroy the middle class and make everyone poor).

The model of social organization in this new world will probably be something like METRO 1313... a "global" metropolis.. ECUMENOPOLIS, the great world city, so to speak (http://www.paulsholtz.com/donbell/db21_31.html)

The general tactic of bringing this about in America has, for over a century now, been Fabian so******m, which is to say, incrementalism.

The frog in the boiler, so to speak.

I don't necessarily see this changing.

There may not be a "crash" per se, but the standard of living is certainly and obviously being reduced.

Most Americans don't believe in God or religion anymore anyway.

Leftism (in all its forms and varieties) is the "new" religion.

[farmer_giles_of_ham]

Originally Posted by mrg

Is prophecy a perfect seeing and telling of an absolutely pre-determined future, or is it prediction of a future that will occur, by Law, according to free-fall dynamics of an "if...then" equation?

Thats it right there. Like a child thinks an adult is practically a wizard because grown-ups can see further than kids.

If the latter, might prophecy be a warning and a key to an outcome more in keeping with Design by a benevolent Creator, One who has endowed us with free-will, and thus with, at least, the potential, perhaps, for righteous self-determination?

If "hope springs eternal" within the breast of Creation, perhaps is it also an attribute of Creator?

If mankind was indeed endowed with free-will, how, and/or why, could our Creator, have an absolutely fixed pre-determined outcome?

One of the definitions of prophecy is "prediction," and of prophet, one who interprets and/or predicts.

Prophecy is different from predictions in the sense of something pre-determined "just because"; it will always be free-will from the perspective of the earthly dimension. It could be any number of ways; but it will be one way. Thats just a simple fact of life.

The mistake that so many make is to "mechanize" or "materialize" concepts. Things happen organically, naturally. Its too easy to get lost in the process.

The reason I trust in the Bible, or even in the sure purpose of "Illuminist" design, is based on past performance- get it right enough times and faith starts to grow.

But we are warned against dwelling too much on such things, or try to force events or practice divination- a true prophecy happens all on its own by inspiration.

[ZOBOLI]

Some might find the lyrics prophetic some what

Shalamar - Take That To The Bank
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cbDm9HCO8P0

[rottweiler]

I know the price of silver(POS) crashed by almost 20% in the last few days when it went from $21.80 to $16.80. That is insane considering how pathetic the dollar is. I am going to see if I can find some pre-1964 dimes, quarters, and halfs tomorrow. You know what they say, buy the dips.

[psholtz]

Originally Posted by rottweiler

I know the price of silver(POS) crashed by almost 20% in the last few days when it went from $21.80 to $16.80. That is insane considering how pathetic the dollar is. I am going to see if I can find some pre-1964 dimes, quarters, and halfs tomorrow. You know what they say, buy the dips.

Strange too, considering that bulliondirect.com just sold out of SAEs and won't have anymore until mid-April at the earliest.

The "real" demand (on main street) for precious metals is as high as ever.

What often is happening when commodity prices crash like this on Wall Street is that hedge funds are being called on their margins, and they have to dump gold/silver to cover their positions. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that is happening right now, given this week's volatility. It causes a short-term drop in commodity prices, but the general trend for gold/silver is still upward (measuring in Fed notes, that is).

I would imagine that the big bullion banks are still trying to short gold, for their various conspiratorial reasons, and that this too creates a short-term downward pressure on its price.

[rottweiler]

Hedge funds are definitely always the big losers in this type of volatility. It is all part of the scam but I thank them for putting silver on sale for me.

I wanted to buy more when silver was $18 but I have been waiting. $17 is going to seem super cheap in 3 years. As a matter of fact $22 silver is cheap compared to what it will be in 3 years. We could easily see $40 by then.

In a bull market you buy on the dips and sell part of your position into strength if you absolutely must have cash.

I noticed CNI only has a few silver items for sale. That is a sign silver will rebound next week.

The big buying opportunities have been during the summer months. You generally can't go wrong there until the dollar stabilizes and I don't see that happening soon.

Originally Posted by psholtz

Strange too, considering that bulliondirect.com just sold out of SAEs and won't have anymore until mid-April at the earliest.

The "real" demand (on main street) for precious metals is as high as ever.

What often is happening when commodity prices crash like this on Wall Street is that hedge funds are being called on their margins, and they have to dump gold/silver to cover their positions. It wouldn't surprise me if a lot of that is happening right now, given this week's volatility. It causes a short-term drop in commodity prices, but the general trend for gold/silver is still upward (measuring in Fed notes, that is).

I would imagine that the big bullion banks are still trying to short gold, for their various conspiratorial reasons, and that this too creates a short-term downward pressure on its price.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by farmer_giles_of_ham

Prophecy is different from predictions in the sense of something pre-determined "just because"

...I trust in the Bible

8...but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

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