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Old 04-17-2008, 09:13 PM
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But, I also can't buy into the idea that 9/11 was planned and executed by the government, at least not entirely.

The trash running the nwo is a tiny clique, not huge like we are inclined to believe.
However, there are many Americans who have proved to be politically unreliable, as the clique would call them.
In other words, they are NOT traitors, but will wipe the clique out.
There have been signs recently that not all is well in nwo land.
Remember the nukes that were transferred across country by 'accident?' The US Air Force had refused to deploy live nukes to the middle east.
Retribution is coming, I can smell it on the wind.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:35 PM
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I also can't buy into the idea that 9/11 was planned and executed by the government, at least not entirely. That would lead to Al Qaida being fictional. And we all know that's not true.
C'mon Tigron, you can't be serious?

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Here's a link to that documentary that weishaupt mentioned;
http://polidics.com/cia/top-ranking-cia-operatives-admit-al-qaeda-is-a-complete-fabrication.html
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:55 PM
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C'mon Tigron, you can't be serious?

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I thought he was being sarcastic at first, but then read the rest of his post

Tigron, we aren't trying to belittle you, it's just that you are misinformed in regards to this particular issue of Al Queda
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:00 PM
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I thought he was being sarcastic at first, but then read the rest of his post

Tigron, we aren't trying to belittle you, it's just that you are misinformed in regards to this particular issue of Al Queda
Not quite he isn't. The very term was coined by the US Gov. Remember that Osama himself was a US Gov asset.
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I just never could grasp the reason for withholding the videos that would show what hit the Pentagon, unless I go with the cover-up theory.

But, I also can't buy into the idea that 9/11 was planned and executed by the government, at least not entirely. That would lead to Al Qaida being fictional. And we all know that's not true.

In terms of cover-up, wouldn't it be easier to just let a hostile group execute a strike against the US, and then use that to go to war? I mean, given what some of these conspiracy theories allude to, I just find it hard to believe that our government is that good. Deniability is so much easier to hold up than trying to keep a lid on a conspiracy that would involve hundreds of people. Someone low on the totem pole would've come out by now.

It's just so much easier to know of the attack planned by Al Qaida and simply allow it to happen, however, make the attack look bigger than it would've been. For example, putting bombs in the WTC to bring it down. The owner of the WTC cashes in on the insurance. The mercanaries that planted the demolition bombs profit from going to help war efforts in the Middle East, most likely as leaders of various units -- generals so to speak, except not part of the official US military. In the end, neither party is going to incriminate themselves by speaking up because that would forfeit all the money they earned from deciding to go through with it in the first place.

The war games for the pilots would've been to create confusion, thus delaying response time.

Certain CIA officials would've had to falsify documents to give the Bush administration deniability.

Whether a missle or plane hit the Pentagon is irrelavant to me at this point, except to find out what actually happened. Personally, I think it was a plane. But let the hidden videos show the truth.

All in all, if it was orchestrated the way I expressed above, that means only a handful of men would actually know what happened that day. And it would be a lot easier to cover-up since there really wouldn't be any lackeys to expose the group. So all one has to do is deny; deny; deny.


The whole thing is irrelevant because no planes were hijacked and then crashed into the targets. Something smaller than a 747 hit the Pentagon and whatever hit the towers were remote controlled/launched.

The THREE sky-scraping towers that fell that day were demolished by explosives that must have taken weeks to plant

It doesn't matter what Al Quaida is or isnt, no hijacked planes hit anything. Following the plan of "Operation Northwoods" a hijacking scenario would be 'created' using trained agents.

Its not possible to hijack a plane with box cutters, or even swords.

Ever notice a lot of "islamic terrorist" groups manage to shoot off barrages of mortars, rockets etc and mostly they land in empty fields, on other Arabs, or various expendable migrant workers? Remember what happened with the 2006 Lebanon war? The Israelis "lost" but the local population was driven out of S Lebanon and the land strewn with 1.5 million cluster mines (for later removal, no doubt) that prevent their return to this day.

Maybe you will remember the book "1984", when the main character realizes that the frequent bombings of London by "the enemy" are coming from the State itself...

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The whole thing is irrelevant because no planes were hijacked and then crashed into the targets. Something smaller than a 747 hit the Pentagon and whatever hit the towers were remote controlled/launched.

Your nutball theory fails to account for what happened to all the passengers and crew, not to mention the four planes themselves, since "no planes were hijacked."

They just all vanished into thin air, eh?
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Your nutball theory fails to account for what happened to all the passengers and crew, not to mention the four planes themselves, since "no planes were hijacked."

They just all vanished into thin air, eh?

Lawdog, are the Twenty Five (25 ) military officers with credentials as high, if not higher than as Lt. Col, Phd, etc . . , fighter pilot; and wh aren't going for book/movie/seminar deals; a bunch of conspiracy nutballs?

___YES___NO
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In April of last year, Boeing were hit with a record fine of $615 million after the company broke the law by selling commercial planes equipped with the QRS-11 gyrochip, which is also used in the guidance system of the Maverick missile.

According to the Associated Press, from 2000 to 2003 Boeing shipped 94 airliners oversees, mainly to China, that contained the chip, a device used for "military applications," stated the report.

McConnell says he has evidence that "The QRS11 trail leads back to Communist China's funding of the second Clinton presidential run and then to Joe Giroir and Hillary Clinton, former partners at the Rose Law Firm, and finally the crime of Arkancide and the death of Ron Brown," and that "The Iridium satellite system used to steer electronically-hijacked jets fitted with QRS11 gyroscopes on 9/11 was probably commanded from virtual and physical war rooms embedded in Canada Steamship Lines vessels built by China for CAI-Carlyle Canada."

Was such a device or one of its offshoots used for the "military application" of executing the 9/11 attacks? The connection is tantalizing and one that deserves further study in order to ascertain the danger of rogue elements of the military industrial complex utilizing this technology to carry out another terrorist black-op.
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Your nutball theory fails to account for what happened to all the passengers and crew, not to mention the four planes themselves, since "no planes were hijacked."

They just all vanished into thin air, eh?
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Old 04-18-2008, 10:38 AM
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Lawdog, are the Twenty Five (25 ) military officers with credentials as high, if not higher than as Lt. Col, Phd, etc . . , fighter pilot; and wh aren't going for book/movie/seminar deals; a bunch of conspiracy nutballs?

___YES___NO

If any of them claim, as farmer giles does, that "no planes were hijacked" on 9-11, then the answer is YES, HELL YES, and HELL F***ING YES, nutballs every one.

Don't be sure that some (or even any) of those 25 supposed officers exist. The Internet is full of all kinds of bulls**t rumors.
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