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Al-Qaida No. 2 says 9/11 theory propagated by Iran
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Al-Qaida No. 2 says 9/11 theory propagated by Iran
By MAGGIE MICHAEL – 2 hours ago
CAIRO, Egypt (AP) — Osama bin Laden's chief deputy in an audiotape Tuesday accused Shiite Iran of trying to discredit the Sunni al-Qaida terror network by spreading the conspiracy theory that Israel was behind the Sept. 11 attacks.
The comments reflected al-Qaida's No. 2 leader Ayman al-Zawahri's increasing criticism of Iran. Al-Zawahri has accused Iran in recent messages of seeking to extend its power in the Middle East, particularly in Iraq and through its Hezbollah allies in Lebanon.
The authenticity of the two-hour audio recording posted on an Islamic Web site could not be independently confirmed. But the voice sounded like past audiotapes from the terror leader, and the posting where it was found bore the logo of Al-Sahab, al-Qaida's official media arm.
It was the second of two messages answering questions that were posted to Islamic militant Web sites earlier this year.
One of the questioners asked about the theory that has circulated in the Middle East and elsewhere that Israel was behind the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.
Al-Zawahri accused Hezbollah's Al-Manar television of starting the rumor.
"The purpose of this lie is clear — (to suggest) that there are no heroes among the Sunnis who can hurt America as no else did in history. Iranian media snapped up this lie and repeated it," he said.
"Iran's aim here is also clear — to cover up its involvement with America in invading the homes of Muslims in Afghanistan and Iraq," he said.
Iran cooperated with the United States in the 2001 U.S. assault on Afghanistan that toppled al-Qaida's allies, the Taliban.
Answering questions about Iraq in Tuesday's tape, al-Zawahri said the insurgent umbrella group led by al-Qaida, called the Islamic State of Iraq, is "the primary force opposing the Crusaders and challenging Iranian ambitions" in Iraq, he said, referring to the Americans.
As he often does in his messages, al-Zawahri denounced the "Crusader invasion" of Iraq, but in Tuesday's tape he paired it with a mention of "Iranian complicity" or "Iranian agents."
In the latest tape, al-Zawahri was also asked if the terror group had further plans to attack Western countries that participated in the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq and subsequent war.
"My answer is: Yes! We think that any country that has joined aggression on Muslims must be deterred," he replied.
In response to a question signed by the Japanese news agency Kyodo asking if Japan remains a target because it once had troops in Iraq, al-Zawahri said "Japan provided help under the banner of the crusader coalition ... therefore it participated in the Crusader campaign against the lands of Islam."
Japan deployed non-combat troops to southern Iraq in 2003 to carry out reconstruction work. It withdrew its troops from Iraq in 2006 and now conducts airlifts to help supply U.S.-led forces in that country.
Al-Zawahri spoke on a wide range of issues, even global warming, which he said reflected "how criminal, brutal and greedy the Western Crusader world is, with America at the top."
He predicted that global warming would "make the world more sympathetic to and understanding of the Muslims' jihad against the aggressor America."
Asked if there are any women in al-Qaida, the terror leader answered simply: "No." In a follow-up answer, he said: "There are no women in al-Qaida jihadi group, but the women of the mujahedeen are playing a heroic role in taking care of their houses and sons."
In several parts of Tuesday's audio message, Al-Zawahri claimed that the Taliban took over 95 percent of Afghanistan and is sweeping Pakistan as well.
"The Crusaders and their agents in Pakistan and Afghanistan are starting to fall," he said.
In another answer Tuesday, al-Zawahri said it was against Islamic religious law for any Muslim to live permanently in a Western country because in doing so they would "have permanent stay there under the laws of the infidels."
Al-Qaida's media arm, Al-Sahab, announced in December that al-Zawahri would take questions from the public posted on Islamic militant Web sites and would respond "as soon as possible." Queries were submitted on the main Islamist Web site until the cutoff date of Jan. 16.
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http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g...uMGRgD90707T80
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04-22-2008, 02:19 PM
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In other words, and I think this is significant, Osama's group is not only claiming "credit" for the WTC attack, it's getting downright mean about any suggestion that tries to pin the attack on someone else.
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04-22-2008, 02:51 PM
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Bullsh!t
It's interesting that Al CIAda is conveniently stating this when we're already beating the war drums with Iran.
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04-22-2008, 03:03 PM
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Set Up.
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Originally Posted by PeteNC
It's interesting that Al CIAda is conveniently stating this when we're already beating the war drums with Iran.
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Yes! Looks like another piece of the plan.
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Al-CIAda Sock Puppet Zawahiri Claims Iran Behind 9/11 Conspiracy Theories
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Tuesday, April 22, 2008
Al-CIAda sock puppet Ayman al-Zawahiri was quoted in an audiotape released today accusing Iran of behind behind 9/11 conspiracy theories, in another crude public relations stunt designed to generate hostile opinion towards the 9/11 Truth Movement.
The tape had been promised three weeks ago by monitoring group IntelCenter, who have been caught in the past putting out fake and misleading "Al-Qaeda" material via the alleged media arm of the terrorist organization As-Sahab, and was finally released today.
The set-up revolved around Al-Zawahiri’s responding to questions submitted by the public via the Internet.
One of the questioners asked about the theory that has circulated in the Middle East and elsewhere that Israel was behind the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon," reports the Associated Press.
Al-Zawahiri accused Hezbollah’s Al-Manar television of starting the rumor.
"The purpose of this lie is clear — (to suggest) that there are no heroes among the Sunnis who can hurt America as no else did in history. Iranian media snapped up this lie and repeated it," he said.
As anyone with even a superficial knowledge of the 9/11 truth movement can attest to, the sock puppet Zawahiri’s claim that Iran were the first to question the official 9/11 story is completely ludicrous.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s recent bumbling comments about 9/11, the date of which he cannot even accurately remember, were music to the ears of Neo-Cons who seized upon the statements as fodder to debunk the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Zawahiri’s single sentence retort, and the fact that it has been used to generate headlines that link alternative theories about 9/11 with ‘those evil Iranians’ in a clear smear effort, is highly suspicious considering the history of these "Al-Qaeda tapes" and Zawahiri’s own background.
Is this Neo-Con friendly Al-Zawahiri a different person to the real Al-Zawahiri who was reported to have been captured in Tehran in February 2002?
Is this a different Al-Zawahiri to the one reportedly captured near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border in September 2004?
Or is this the same Al-Zawahiri who, as the head of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad, fought for the CIA in Bosnia?
Is this the same Al-Zawahiri who, according to January 2000 U.S. Congressional testimony, was granted U.S. residence by the Immigration and Naturalization Service - something almost impossible for many legitimate immigrants to obtain?
Is this the same Al-Zawahiri whose brother Zaiman is running terrorist camps under NATO protection in the U.S. zone in Kosovo?
Previous tapes which featured Ayman al-Zawahiri were found to be cobbled together from old footage but that doesn’t bother a lapdog media well versed in manufacturing consent and never offering retractions when said tapes turn out to be questionable frauds.
A 2006 Ayman al-Zawahiri tape was studied by a computer expert, who discovered that the As-Sahab logo (the alleged media arm of Al-Qaeda) and the IntelCenter logo (a U.S. based private intelligence organization that "monitors terrorist activity") were both added to the video at the same time - meaning the Pentagon-affiliated group releasing the tapes were slapping on the Al-Qaeda brand right before they released them to the media. The expert suspiciously reversed his stance a day later despite producing detailed technical analysis to justify his claim.
Any credibility that these so-called "Al-Qaeda tapes" had was devastated after our investigation revealed that the people putting them out had connections into the highest ranks of the military-industrial complex.
In our exposé, we unveiled the ties between IntelCenter, a group that regularly ‘obtains’ Al-Qaeda tapes and the Pentagon. IntelCenter is an offshoot of IDEFENSE, which was staffed by a senior military psy-op intelligence officer, Jim Melnick, who has worked directly for Donald Rumsfeld.
IntelCenter were behind the October 2006 release of the "laughing hijackers" tape that showed Mohammad Atta and Ziad Jarrah allegedly attending a 2000 Al-Qaeda meeting and reading their last will and testament.
Segments of the video that were interspersed with footage of the "laughing hijackers," Jarrah and Atta, showing Bin Laden giving a speech to an audience in Afghanistan on January 8 2000, were culled from what terror experts described as surveillance footage taken by a "security agency."
News reports at the time contained the admission that the U.S. government had been in possession of the footage since 2002, while others said it was found when the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001, and yet it was still bizarrely reported that the tape, bearing all the hallmarks of having been filmed and edited by undercover US intelligence and having admittedly been in US possession for five years, was released over the weekend of September 31/October 1 by "Al-Qaeda".
The video also contained segments that were first broadcast in a British documentary called The Road to Guantanamo, which was originally aired in March 2006. The context of the corresponding scene in the dramatized documentary featured U.S. interrogators attempting to coerce Gitmo detainees into confessing Al-Qaeda membership by showing them fake videos where their likeness had been computer generated to appear as if they were in attendance during Bin Laden’s January 8 2000 speech.
IntelCenter were also behind the release of the July 2007 "new" Bin Laden tape, which in actual fact was old footage filmed in 2001 and had been released, including by IntelCenter itself, on no less than two previous occasions spanning back five years.
Al-Zawahiri has a history of popping up at the most politically expedient times, most notably when he appeared right before State of the Union speeches two years running, to attack Bush’s policy in Iraq and allow him to use Al-Zawahiri’s words as a rallying call to prolong the occupation, following in the footsteps of **** Cheney and former Press Secretary Tony Snow, who had compared troop surge skeptics to Al-Qaeda sympathizers.
His latest comments linking the questioning of the official 9/11 story with America’s supposed enemy, Iran, are transparently part of a crude ploy to allow the media to embark on a fresh round of demonizing legitimate 9/11 truth activists.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=1649
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04-22-2008, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
In other words, and I think this is significant, Osama's group is not only claiming "credit" for the WTC attack, it's getting downright mean about any suggestion that tries to pin the attack on someone else.
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Shoonra you dont find it a bit odd that they release only audio announcements? Being the skeptic that you are I would think they you wouldnt take everything at face value. So are we to believe that the government is 100% honest at all times?
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04-22-2008, 04:28 PM
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About the audio tapes: Very early on in the Afghan War the Pentagon announced that its experts were scouring those videotapes of Osama to detect any particular rocks or plants or whatever in his surroundings that might narrow down the search for him. Since then Al Qaeda's been a lot more cautious about providing visuals.
Second, all those guys pretty much have the same lack of fashion sense and were hit with the ugly wand, so I'd just as soon not have to look at them.
So I am not so concerned about the lack of visuals. It's not as if someone stepped out of a jet ****pit in a flight suit and claimed to have made a three-point landing on an aircraft carrier even though his pilots license was cancelled 30 years ago (ooops!).
As for the timing, it was only a few weeks ago that the Iranian PM articulated his anti-Israel theory, so the timing of this rejoinder is also plausible. Al Qaeda has enough sense not to try to make instantaneous replies; if that were their habit or goal, then any sort of delay would be a clue as to how deep in the hinterlands they were hiding, and even though they could be much more prompt, by letting weeks elapse they make it almost impossible for internet hacks to single them out among readers of Iran's original announcement, etc.
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04-22-2008, 04:44 PM
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"Remember the Maine to hell with Spain"
Shoonra has this Country ever used a false flag operation as a pretex to attack a foreign nation?
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04-22-2008, 05:09 PM
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Well if we are going to be brainwashed into bashing Iran again, can we at least get John Valby to make some new songs?
F@#$! THE AYATOLLAH!
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04-22-2008, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by indio007
Well if we are going to be brainwashed into bashing Iran again, can we at least get John Valby to make some new songs?
F@#$! THE AYATOLLAH!
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I wonder if Shoonra believes Osama is sitting in the cave dwelling with internet access like Donald Rumsfeld tried to say on national news.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...66259112889282
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04-22-2008, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
About the audio tapes: Very early on in the Afghan War the Pentagon announced that its experts were scouring those videotapes of Osama to detect any particular rocks or plants or whatever in his surroundings that might narrow down the search for him. Since then Al Qaeda's been a lot more cautious about providing visuals.
Second, all those guys pretty much have the same lack of fashion sense and were hit with the ugly wand, so I'd just as soon not have to look at them.
So I am not so concerned about the lack of visuals. It's not as if someone stepped out of a jet ****pit in a flight suit and claimed to have made a three-point landing on an aircraft carrier even though his pilots license was cancelled 30 years ago (ooops!).
As for the timing, it was only a few weeks ago that the Iranian PM articulated his anti-Israel theory, so the timing of this rejoinder is also plausible. Al Qaeda has enough sense not to try to make instantaneous replies; if that were their habit or goal, then any sort of delay would be a clue as to how deep in the hinterlands they were hiding, and even though they could be much more prompt, by letting weeks elapse they make it almost impossible for internet hacks to single them out among readers of Iran's original announcement, etc.
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