National ID Number

[Freedomless]

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5702505.html

Until 1971, the Social Security card carried a warning against using the number for identification purposes.

Representative Ron Paul of Texas, one of the most outspoken privacy hawks in Congress, says his constituents are very suspicious of the number. What happened to this man? The vote was 100 to 0 for the NATIONAL ID NUMBER.

There is also news that the states are going to challange the National ID Act. There should be more than challenging the act, it should be repealed.

[Freedomless]

Any LAW that is violation of the CONSTITUTION is NULL and VOID.

[Campy]

we already have an world identity mark.....its called our fingerprints. Man, ill tell you, if you dont beleive in a higher power, this HAS to raise some questions. God really knew what he was doing!!

[suijuris]

So it is done... and everyone says bush will sign the bill.

How about those Republicans? All but 3 voted for it and I know Ron Paul was one - he isn't even a real Republican, he just runs on their ticket to get elected. He is really a Libertarian... I don't know the other two but suspect they are closer to being Libertarian as well.

The Democrats didn't do much better, 50-some voted against it and it probably didn't have anything to do with the Real ID portions of the bill.

People on several sites I visitited are throwing rocks back and forth, blaming folks who voted Republican, as if the bill got this far only because the current administration is Republican.

Democrat for president, Republican for president, anyone who thinks it would have made a difference either way other way is a fool. This country is set on a crash course and the wheel is loose.

WHAT A GREAT TEE SHIRT!!! That pretty much says it all!!!

Sincerely,
truth

[charlesa6]

Yep!!!!!! tee shirt is it.

Originally Posted by Freedomless

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-5702505.html

Until 1971, the Social Security card carried a warning against using the number for identification purposes.

Representative Ron Paul of Texas, one of the most outspoken privacy hawks in Congress, says his constituents are very suspicious of the number. What happened to this man? The vote was 100 to 0 for the NATIONAL ID NUMBER.

There is also news that the states are going to challange the National ID Act. There should be more than challenging the act, it should be repealed.

Well you answered your own question. Ron Paul is a Representative in the House of representatives. A 100-0 Vote suggests the Senate who has 100 members plus the VP. I doubt a member of the House of Representatives can vote in the Senate unless he is a Senator.

Besides Rep. Paul is only 1 voice with a hand full of allies in a group of about 435.

Oh and another thought. It doesn't need to be repealed and the states don't need to fight it in court. If people in a state such as Kentucky or Texas simply ignored congress and said no we're not implementing it it would carry more weight. Maybe then people would realize that the opinions of a group of bafoons in 1 city doesn't really matter. Much the way people began ignoring proclamations of ceasar.

Originally Posted by Freedomless

Any LAW that is violation of the CONSTITUTION is NULL and VOID.

In case no one has been paying attention, the constitution itsself is null and void anyway and many recent bills passed into law and enforced would be tacit evidence of that.

Google "10 Planks Communist Manifesto", read and learn.

The government has no power other than that which it gets from the people who work for it and what it can steal from the general public. In reality, it is after all, just a piece of paper. Since the men and women who work for government have demonstrated repeatedly they have no respect for the people, (as evidenced by their obvious disregard for any documents that acknowledges individual basic natural and human rights), why should we have any for them?

If there was a small but critical mass of people who would simply ignore them and not comply with their rules, and go about their lives, trading with each other, the brushfire of liberty would once again catch hold in peoples minds and it would spread. Washington and all seats of government could then become what Bush called the United Nations. A Debating Club.

I mean think about it. The U.N. has no real power because it gets its power from the member nations. They can pass all the assinine resolutions they want but in reality they have no effect because the member nations refuse to implement or abide by them. We must follow the example our "pretended leaders" set and do the same. They would have no reason to complain. They say they don't abide by some of the resolutions because it "Undermines the Sovereignty of the united States, or of China, or Russia", etc.

Well how are our own "pretended leaders" proclimations any different? Some say we have a contract that binds us Voter Reg. SS# etc. and that they will take you to court and enforce the terms of the contract. Well the Government has a treaty with the United Nations. Is not Treaty simply a fancy word for CONTRACT? Our "pretended leaders" a.k.a. terrorcrats have shown us the way. As long as you do not injur or harm someone else Simply ignore them as they do their obligations with other nations.

I guess the only real problem is that they can use threat duress coercion and violence to sieze bank accounts etc. So why do you think they like us in perpetual debt? If one could get out of debt, then it is not too difficult to live without a bank account. We use cash at the grocer and at the gas station. Many employers will cash their own checks, which brings me to a question, why don't they just pay us with cash anyway?

I could go on with many other questions and justifications but I guess I'll end it here before this becomes any more of a rant of a sermon to the choir.

[D.Dog]

I can't believe not even the supposed ACLoosersU have not alreadt filed suit against this National Id.

I promise you this I WILL NOT GET ONE.

Sounds very close to THE MARK OF THE DEVIL! I will not disgrace my creator as he has made a promise to me so long as I do not take the mark.

I do not believe this is it, however it is the spring board to selling it to the masses over the period of the next few years or generations to give allegiance to the states and/ or governments.

Like marriage, drivers, business licenses, and any other license the majority of people believe that because the goverment says it so it must be.


This has got to be stopped. If anyone knows of an active group of a larger force that is i fighting this let me know. I do not beleive I could lead such an under-taking.

D.Dog

[suijuris]

I suggest people in each state getting recalls started on the congress people that voted against the will of the people on this matter...