The ensuing police state! At your door folks

[Sheps]

UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS!

Daily Kos | August 23 2005

UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS! EVOL INTENT'S ACCOUNT OF THE INCIDENT!

Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the **** out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of ****ing TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..


One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.


The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.


The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the **** out of here right now."


Now.. let's get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!

Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?

This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULL****!

The system ****ed up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.

I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.

p.s. - there are more stories of police brutality that i'll post up later. gotta hit the airport soon. can't wait to get the **** out of this **** hole state.

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SHERIFF'S STATEMENT: http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News...wsDetails.asp?
ID=17759&WN_System=SHERIFF

VIDEO: http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html

[suijuris]

I was in Salt Lake earlier this year, and let me tell you, that was the most religiously oppressing environment I have ever been in. This oppression comes as no surprise to me, but it is still unnerving to see such large numbers of tactical forces being moved against civilians.

I am posting the WMV (Windows Media) version of the footage HERE FOR DOWNLOAD to help spread this footage.

That blows my mind.

Funny the JBT wanted the camera off.

EVERYONE, PLEASE DOWNLOAD THIS VIDEO SO THAT IT WILL NOT BE LOST.

[Henry's Note]



7.62 x 39 defeats most body armor...

Every normal man must be tempted at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.

H.L. Mencken


*************That he which hath no stomach to this fight,
Let him depart His passport shall be made
And crowns for convoy put into his purse
We would not die in that man's company
That fears his fellowship to die with us
This day is called the feast of Crispian
He that outlives this day and comes safe home
Will stand a-tiptoe when this day is named
And rouse him at the name of Cnspian,
He that shall live this day and see old age
Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbors
And say, "Tomorrow is Saint Cnspian "
Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars,
And say 'These wounds I had on Crispin's Day "
Old men forget, yet all shall be forgot.
But he'll remember with advantages
What feats he did that day Then shall our names,
Familiar in his mouth as household words,
Harry the King, Bedford and Exeter,
Warwick and Talbot, Salisbury and Gloucester,
Be in their flowing cups freshly remembered
This story shall the good man teach his son,
And Crispin Cnspian shall ne'er go by,
From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered—
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers
For he today that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother Be he ne'er so vile.
This day shall gentle his condition
And gentlemen in England now abed
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Cnspin's Day
—W Shakespeare, Henry V

If you haven't read THIS BOOK, there is no better time to read it.

[scottinalaska]

AT YOUR DOOR!?!

An understatement in our eyes, but we're simply wild eyed weirdos to the rest of the herd that doesn't know they are being prepared to be castrated.
And towards the end, "Put your camera down" comment - I am SO sick of this attitude of not wanting ANY accountability. I always carry a pocket recorder, but a video recorder that could be clicked on easily and mounted in my pocket is going to prove indespensible soon too, I can tell.
Thanks for posting, Sheps. I hope more video comes out. This was SO PLANNED by the powers. They were probably hoping someone would hear a gunshot so they could REALLY practice on some real people....
scottinalaska

[Sheps]

New Law slated to install Police State in Canada

GlobalResearch.ca | August 24, 2005
By Connie Fogal

Connie Fogal, Leader of CAP, says " 'NO' to an impending federal law to give police and national security agencies new powers to eavesdrop on cellphone calls and monitor the Internet activities of Canadians".

"This law is another destruction of Canadian freedom,"insists Fogal. "It moves Canada even further into the realm of a police state. This is an adjunct to our nefarious anti terrorism laws imposed on an uninformed citizenry by our Parliament and Senate. It is another elimination of some of our sovereign rights that were supposed to be guaranteed to us under our Constitution and our Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It is an act of stealth imposed under the guise of national security."

Fogal asks? "Why is this being done? Canada is mirroring recent U.S legislation because our government has committed Canada by stealth and backroom deals to a North American Union: US, Canada, and Mexico under US command and control. Information on this year's meeting by the three national leaders at Bush's ranch in Texas on North American Union has been revealed even in mainstream media."

"This latest piece of liberty stripping legislation is but one more incremental step of stealth because Canadians would not tolerate this if we were allowed to have full information of what is going on. This is an incredible situation," reported Fogal.

She continued, "Many Canadians fought and died in WW2 to stop this very kind of police state activity. What we are witnessing now with these types of laws is an exact pattern of liberty -stripping imposed by Hitler on Germans under the guise of 'National Security'. Good people there who turned a blind eye or failed to resist later discovered it was too late.Their liberty was completely eliminated . Eventually it reached a stage where even Germany's highest court judges were committing crimes by convicting innocent people. See the Nuremburg Trials. Even Judges are corruptible in such regimes. As Harry Rankin, Vancouver's renowned 25 year alderman and criminal lawyer, used to say, 'If you want justice, go to church,not to the courts. The courts are there to apply the law created by politicians.' "
"Fogal, a lawyer, said, "Canada along with many countries has been participating for years in an eavesdropping program called Echelon. That is illegal. What government is trying to do is make it legal. It is illegal because our system as a democracy had built in protections for the good and innocent. Police have to justify any invasion of privacy before a court of law. If the court did not accept the reason for the invasion, it was not allowed. This protection is core to civil liberties. We should not abandon it. We must not abandon it, if we are to be a free and democratic people."

"It is such hypocrisy for Canada to be supporting the US occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq as deliverers of "freedom" when new local draconian laws at home are stripping Canadians and Americans of our liberty. It is time for a reality check," insisted Fogal.

"At a crucial point in 'the tide of the affairs of men' human beings have to take a stand and be counted. Better sooner than later when to do so means imprisonment or death, as happened in Germany. I, for one, say "NO" to another deceitful and wrongful law. I also speak as the leader of a small federal party voicing the view of thousands of Canadians who feel betrayed by the existing Parliamentarians,"said Fogal.

[Sheps]

I'll get that book. No better time than now!

It's getting really shaky about the US of A!!!!!!

Always good to see other views;

Raid unjustified, party officials say

They say they had permit to hold Sp. Fork event

By Sara Israelsen
Deseret Morning News
OREM — Organizers of a weekend dance party in Spanish Fork Canyon say a police raid that yielded drug arrests was not legally justifiable because they had the necessary permit to hold the outside event.
Brandon Fullmer, manager of Uprok Records, the party promoter, said he obtained a permit from the Utah County Health Department — but said he didn't need to obtain a county permit because he wasn't going to have more than 250 people in the area for more than 12 hours.
Utah County code outlines that "no person shall sell tickets to an actual or reasonably anticipated assembly of 250 or more people which continues or can reasonably be expected to continue for 12 or more consecutive hours, whether on public or private property unless a license to hold the assembly has first been issued by the County Commissioners."
Even though there were more than 250 people at the party, Fullmer says, because his event was planned to run from 9 p.m. to 7 a.m. — only 10 hours — no permit was needed. That 10 hours was the time frame for the concert itself, however, and did not include set-up or clean-up.
The party organizers provided portable bathrooms, water and emergency medical personnel — all in compliance with the health department requirements.
But late Saturday night, 90 county police officers, including members of the SWAT team — clad in SWAT gear — entered the police-described "rave" and told people to go home, confiscating drugs and guns in the process.
Undercover officers in the crowd reportedly had already noticed a significant amount of drug usage and had been approached about hand-to-hand drug buys.
Utah County Attorney Kay Bryson said he believes the drug activity reported by the undercover officers provided sufficient probable cause for other police officers to enter and break up the party without seeking a search warrant from a judge, even though the drug sales were not cited as the primary reason SWAT teams entered the area.
"Our intent in going there was to disperse the gathering," said Utah County Sheriff's Sgt. Spencer Cannon in a recent interview. "We had resources inside who said that the numbers were beyond what they were allowed to have for the type of gathering."
But ordinance limitations weren't the only worry.
Bryson said the county's involvement with similar rave parties, including one with an estimated 3,000 people in a place called "Little Moab" on the west side of Utah Lake, had taught police to expect long, large dance parties.
"We know that these events go that long," Bryson said. "We know when they started (that) they go through the early morning hours, until 4, 5 in the morning. In our opinion, it is an indication that a person should reasonably expect that the event will go more than 12 hours, if nothing more than the fact that there are people camping."
While Fullmer denied that anyone was encouraged to camp at the Spanish Fork site, he said people were allowed to bring tents and sit in them during the concert, as long as they left when it was over.
Fullmer's attorney said he is still waiting for police reports from the county attorney's office before he can proceed with future legal action.
Trudy Childs, who owns the land where the party was held, said she is working with the same attorney and hopes that legal action will prevent police in the future from inflicting what she claims was police brutality.
She said she has been in contact with the county and knew about the county permit requirement but didn't see why Uprok organizers would need one for an event scheduled to last less than the 12-hour limit.
Had organizers obtained a permit, the problem might have been avoided, however. Once the permit was obtained, those partying could have stayed on the land as long as they wanted with as many people as they wanted, Bryson said.
"The bottom line is, it was an unlawful gathering, with a large number of people which they should have anticipated would go beyond the time mentioned in the ordinance," he said.


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E-mail: sisraelsen@desnews.com

[Fed-Up]

next time, folks should come armed with firearms and if provoked...shoot

the sonafabitches.....tresspassers deserve nothing but contempt.... The

police need to feel the heat for a change. I don't want to shhot ANYONE,but

it is becoming obvious to me that the powers want to tangle and I feel that

We the People ought to respond in kind, with deadly force.

Maybe the jokers that kicked that woman promoter in the stomach will be

more civil when they have to recover in the hospital from gunshot wounds to the groin!! Payback can be a Bitch.

Originally Posted by Sheps

UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS!

Daily Kos | August 23 2005

UTAH RAVERS TREATED LIKE TERRORISTS! EVOL INTENT'S ACCOUNT OF THE INCIDENT!

Last night, I was booked to play an event about an hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype behind this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and they expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did an amazing job with the show.. they even made slipmats with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.

So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing light show flashing on to a mountain behind the site, the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500 people thick and everything just seemed too good to be true really. Well...

At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the stage talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly said "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I was with. I wasn't far off.

The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in awe and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a guy dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of what was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and cut the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get the **** out of here or go to jail". This is where it got really sticky.

No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police dogs raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal out a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and kicked him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in his back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop, peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of ****ing TEAR GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running and screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are cussing... bad scene.

Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are instances cited straight out of the promoters mouth..


One of the promoters friends (a very small female) was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she struggled to get away from it, the police tackled her. 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.


The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total. People were trying to document what was happening out there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily.. his friend grabbed it and ran and got away. priceless footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people, there's sure to be more footage.


The police were rounding up the staff of the party and the main promoter went up to them with the permit for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the permit out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to his forehead and said "get the **** out of here right now."


Now.. let's get the facts straight here.

This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I should mention that they arrested all the security guards for possession.

Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not have a warrant. The owner of the land already has a lawsuit against the city for something similar. A few months ago, she rented her land for a party and the police raided that as well. And catch this, the police forced her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's right. They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own property!!!

Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil liberties. The police wanted this party shut down, so they made it happen. Even though everything about this event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000 on this show and did everything they had to to make it legit, only to have it taken away from them by a group of radical neo-con's with an agenda.

This was one of the scariest things I have ever witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles, tear gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that really necessary?

This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing the right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the police set a standard of what we can get away with. And I think that's BULL****!

The system ****ed up last night... They broke up a party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a lot of people there at the same time. The promoters already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.

I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video) will surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on 404, so you can see the Police State of America at work.

p.s. - there are more stories of police brutality that i'll post up later. gotta hit the airport soon. can't wait to get the **** out of this **** hole state.

www.buzzlife.com/forums/showthread.php

SHERIFF'S STATEMENT: http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News...wsDetails.asp?
ID=17759&WN_System=SHERIFF

VIDEO: http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/FileSharing2.html

[Sheps]

Consumers will foot bill for Net spooks
ISPs: Proposed legislation could require providers to monitor any Internet communications

Ottowa Citizen | August 26 2005

Internet providers such as Bell Sympatico and Rogers say consumers might have to foot the bill for the cost of implementing the federal government's controversial new proposals for police interception of Internet communications.

Last week, Justice Minister Irwin Cotler unveiled plans to present a legislative package to cabinet this fall that would require Internet service providers to put all Internet communications, including chat rooms, e-mails, text messages and Internet telephony, under surveillance at the request of law-enforcement agencies who obtain a court order. Police can already use court orders to request Internet communication, but service providers are not required to monitor the Internet, often leaving gaps in the data available to authorities.

The legislation would require all service providers to create the technical capability to intercept every point of Internet communication. Providers say the cost of such a sweeping surveillance system might be passed onto consumers.

"We are concerned about the cost. That's always been the biggest issue," said David Elder, a vice-president at Bell and chair of a committee on the legislation for the Canadian Association of Internet Providers. "We don't want to have artificially higher rates to accommodate this lawful-access capability."

The controversial proposals include an exception to allow law enforcement agencies to obtain, without a court order, "tombstone data," which reveals anonymous Internet subscribers' names, contact information and addresses.

Critics say the surveillance system would slow innovation of new communications tools because they would have to be fit with an interception capability; such a system is also said to open up channels of private Internet communications to potential breaches by hackers.

A ruling by the U.S. Federal Communications Commission this month introduced a similar legal obligation for American Internet service providers. Kurt Opsahl, staff attorney at the Electronic Frontier Foundation in California, a public interest group on technology and the law, said the irony of the situation is that Internet users might end up paying for surveillance of themselves.

"The consumer is going to end up paying for less innovation, less privacy and less security -- for putting in place the technology that enables Big Brother," he said.

Operational costs will include processing the warrants and putting together real-time communication feeds for authorities, which Jay Kerr-Wilson, a vice-president at the Canadian Cable Telecommunications Association, representing Rogers and other cable companies, said he hopes to see paid for by the government.

However, Mr. Kerr-Wilson said there is the more expensive cost of building the surveillance infrastructure, which would be halved if it can be done over several years as systems are upgraded.

"If they said, by January 2007 you have to completely implement all of the lawful access capabilities into your networks, it would be a horrendous cost. It would be millions and millions for the Canadian industry."

Mr. Kerr-Wilson estimated that if a small service provider with about 10,000 Internet subscribers had to buy the equipment today, it would have to spend $500,000 to implement the technology. For a company such as Rogers, the cost "would be in the multiple millions."

A spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety said the government would expect service providers to incur costs as they upgrade their networks "over time" and "without an undue burden."

The proposals are expected to exempt service providers with fewer than 100,000 subscribers from the costs, which will be covered by the government

[David Merrill]

By Sara Israelsen
Deseret Morning News

OREM — Organizers of a weekend dance party in Spanish Fork Canyon say a police raid that yielded drug arrests was not legally justifiable because they had the necessary permit to hold the outside event.
Brandon Fullmer, manager of Uprok Records, the party promoter, said he obtained a permit from the Utah County Health Department — but said he didn't need to obtain a county permit because he wasn't going to have more than 250 people in the area for more than 12 hours.

It would appear the drugs and guns (reportedly in the hand of appointed 'security' taken from the partiers as they entered the showground) were not even the issue. This draconian behavior was brought on by fears the rave would last too long, over twelve hours, two and a half hours into the rave.

Will wonders never cease?



Regards,

David Merrill.



http://www.music-versus-guns.org/versusmedia.html