Flag With 9 Stripes

[charlesa6]

O yea, everybody getting warm up. I love it. Grin!!

[ndusa]

LMAO, funny codee, I seen that as well. Perhaps its because we see things for what they really are, not what we want them to be.

Codee, you and I could make a fortune off of several people in here, selling them crazed ideas. I have thought bout it alot as of late. The more insane and stupid the idea is, the more some people believe it to be etched in stone!

[fulltitle]

Without Prejudice.

Originally Posted by charlesa6

O yea, everybody getting warm up. I love it. Grin!!

Tee hee. True, up to ten stripes at the most are visible in either situation but for the most part a 10th seems to only be pale-ly tolerated. Actually the original post was meant to allude to this discussion for what its worth. Apparently the link disappeared or failed to be insterted. Oh and while I wouldnt buy into every yarn, some things are interesting even if only for amusement or entertainment. Some things are maybe just plain...odd.



While there may possibly be no significance to the show of stripes, it does no harm to consider that sometimes things are hidden in plain sight. Also even if the most far-fetched rumor gives rise to opportunity to discuss history so as to improve the knowledge level of otherwise uninformed folks--who stands to lose?

[charlesa6]

Yep!! Thanks your point and links be noted. Nice teddy bear posture.

[Notorial dissent]

mrg,

so nice of you to put in your 2 cents worth, and as usual that is all it is worth.

If you had bothered to actually look at the picture you are basing your silliness on you would have noted that neither flag matches, and that they are in fact masked by the banners to the sides of them. You on the other hand wanted to see something that wasn’t there so you ignored what was obvious and in front of you.

I did not say there was any problem with flag etiquette or anything else, and as far as I can see there was none. I simply said that the whoever designed the background did a sloppy job, and they did. What we are looking at is a poorly done background for a photo op, and that is all it is, no grand conspiracy, no super secret changes, just the usual half baked attempt at something.

I never said Ft Bragg was a set, I said they were on a set, and they were.

You are the one trying to turn sloppiness into a conspiracy not me. I simply see what is obvious.

If there had been some change, it would have had to have been by an Executive Order, which surprisingly enough there doesn’t seem to be one, so guess what??? Unless you are suggesting that someone would just change the flags on their own initiative?


fulltitle

the background was most likely a projected montage judging by the poor quality of the images, and they just did a poor job of matching the images, so there is no significance to the number of anything we are seeing other than general ineptness.

It seems to have escaped your notice, that the Articles of Confederation have been a very dead item for well over 200 years, and it was barely alive even then. In any event, since there are ten stripes visible the point is moot.

[Workalacious D]

Dating from when Lincoln was in office, he was the last Actual President. He was also the first Commander in chief, by passing the war powers act he forced the divided states back into congress. From that day in history NONE of the people that hold the presidents titile of office is actually the president of the united states, until all the Executive orders are lifted from past and present he is the Commander in chief, he is the only person that can do that and still does not . Why would a child take his own candy from himself when thats all he wanted in whole his whole wide narrow viewed world.Am I wrong?

[fulltitle]

Without Prejudice.

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

mrg,

so nice of you to put in your 2 cents worth, and as usual that is all it is worth.

If you had bothered to actually look at the picture you are basing your silliness on you would have noted that neither flag matches, and that they are in fact masked by the banners to the sides of them. You on the other hand wanted to see something that wasn’t there so you ignored what was obvious and in front of you.

Or perhaps you are being overly-zealous and missing a bit of mirth or not seeing the tongue-in-cheek aspect. And maybe you are too arrogant to see that people can discuss something without being 'washed away' by it.

I did not say there was any problem with flag etiquette or anything else, and as far as I can see there was none. I simply said that the whoever designed the background did a sloppy job, and they did. What we are looking at is a poorly done background for a photo op, and that is all it is, no grand conspiracy, no super secret changes, just the usual half baked attempt at something.

Indeed perhaps there is no "grand conspiracy". But at the same time I consider the deliberate efforts that some are known to go through to send messages overt or otherwise. You know, cos every thing in the news just happens randomly. And no two people have the same goals--cars, computers and printers just happen no one comes together, or "conspires", to make them right? And yes, that is all it might be just...sloppiness (like some cars might seem to be the result of). And you know, its ok to discuss that perspective too. Its more of "Hey I saw this..its interesting but...it doesnt necessarily mean anything...but if it does mean something..what could it mean?"

You are the one trying to turn sloppiness into a conspiracy not me. I simply see what is obvious.

Thats your presumption. Its more like "Hmm look at this oddity..there might not be anything to it but...hey look anyway." You might underestimate people's intelligence to the extent that maybe you are being baited and toyed with and you dont even realize it.

fulltitle

the background was most likely a projected montage judging by the poor quality of the images, and they just did a poor job of matching the images, so there is no significance to the number of anything we are seeing other than general ineptness.

Indeed it looks to be some kind of computer or projected image which would have given them even finer control over the images--also it looks to be animated (as if the flag is waving slightly). And also, consider that the setting is a very serious military setting established by people on a military base who take heraldry and the like very seriously. Balance. Not to mention that the two pictures shown were two totally different settings--the purpose is to discuss. No one said its a conspiracy. Its just a discussion for what its worth. Actually when I saw that site, I came across it by accident, but I did not post the thread until I saw the second picture with the flags in a similar arrangement. See yes its possible they were just trying something "trendy and different" and that really what I considered--BTW, I did not start the rumormill thread. So I posted here just for FYI and for grins. But at the same time, its something to look at for what its worth. And clearly we all might be able to look at it things from different perspectives apparent you miss that point--it does not have to be argumentative, negative or condescending.

Also see below there were apparently flags with all stripes showing hanging above and to the left of the regimental flags on the stage.

It seems to have escaped your notice, that the Articles of Confederation have been a very dead item for well over 200 years, and it was barely alive even then. In any event, since there are ten stripes visible the point is moot.

Appearances. And yes the AoC just may be very much kaput. So might the US Constitution some say. On the other hand, you have people who are still loyal to the CSA. Some things can be quite dynamic.

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Check with the office of the Federal Register. The current definition of the Flag of the US is there by Executive Order of Dwight D. Eisenhower. Any revisions to the flag about 9 stripes would be there.

Indeed. I dont figure there have been actual revisions to the flag.

Otherwise I think we are going to have to attribute the photos to sloppy heraldry; like Notorial Dissent is saying. At least if you want me to listen to your theories about recent flag revisions, then I want to read which President says so. These things are the province of the President acting as Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy.

Very good point, David Merrill. And I was not in any way suggesting an actual revision to the U.S. flag. Even the original link seemed to suggest some kind of "code" or message was being sent. In the second picture the flags look starched and folded. ...

Nonetheless, my opinion on the first have pic is that: Maybe when they snapped the shot first picture, the flags montage was zooming in or out of the flag and just happened to show 9 to 10 stripes and whoever sent the pic and posted it to rumormill could have been just toying with people to start. Didnt think of that one did ya NDUSA? *wink* And also, just maybe the flag montage was constantly changing the whole time. Call it "fun with forensics". But in looking at footage from the speech..it was not animated.

Don't get me wrong Fulltitle. That is a great post about 23. That is a very Masonic symbol too ... 2+3=5 etc.

True true. That is more likely the significance than anything to do with the US Civil War. Besides its 18 stars below and six stars above in the picture but there may be more stars to the right or left. Nonetheless, I dont think it hurts people to look at details that they might otherwise tend to overlook. Good point either way.

[mrg]

Originally Posted by Notorial dissent

mrg,

so nice of you to put in your 2 cents worth, and as usual that is all it is worth.

And "as usual," your thesis statement is illogical fallacious tactical ad hominem rhetorical attack "to the person," which is fundamental to most, if not all, of which you present.

What follows such illogical fallacious rhetorical artifice is generally classifiable as propaganda.

Condescending sarcastic ridicule, is hardly a firm foundation upon which to construct a substantial intellectual edifice grounded in, and governed by basic aspects of any taxonomy of meta-cognitive higher order thinking skills.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by mrg

And "as usual," your thesis statement is illogical fallacious tactical ad hominem rhetorical attack "to the person," which is fundamental to most, if not all, of which you present.

What follows such illogical fallacious rhetorical artifice is generally classifiable as propaganda.

Condescending sarcastic ridicule, is hardly a firm foundation upon which to construct a substantial intellectual edifice grounded in, and governed by basic aspects of any taxonomy of meta-cognitive higher order thinking skills.

But you have to admit, it is typical for us to find Ndusa has arose from the wrong side of the bed again.

Fulltitle agrees that there is a link between the gold fringes and admiralty (Article III) - the province of the Comander in Chief are international, even among States as nations.

Very good point, David Merrill. And I was not in any way suggesting an actual revision to the U.S. flag. Even the original link seemed to suggest some kind of "code" or message was being sent. In the second picture the flags look starched and folded. ...

[redy2fiyt]

Originally Posted by Workalacious D

Dating from when Lincoln was in office, he was the last Actual President. He was also the first Commander in chief, by passing the war powers act he forced the divided states back into congress. From that day in history NONE of the people that hold the presidents titile of office is actually the president of the united states, until all the Executive orders are lifted from past and present he is the Commander in chief, he is the only person that can do that and still does not . Why would a child take his own candy from himself when thats all he wanted in whole his whole wide narrow viewed world.Am I wrong?

Aside from the fact that this is slightly off the topic of this thread, but due to the fact that it is an interesting statement, I'd like to see your evidence and research on this. I would be interested to see any actual documentation, resolutions, EOs, and the like that would support this theory.