
09-27-2005, 01:14 AM
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Hooaahh! We might finally get us some martial law!
I shouldn't be surprised. After all, I predicted it.
After the "slow federal response" to Katrina I decided that if ever there were a time for some scumbag nazi to exploit the situation by offering a brilliant solution to some imagined problem, it was now. You know, the kind of problem that can only be solved when you give up a freedom so they can protect you against ____________.
See for yourself: http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/...ary/index.html
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Never fear though, is only talk at this point. I am quite confident that nothing will come of this loose chatter made by the leader of the free world. Go back to your pastures little sheep, as there is nothing to see here. The grass is green and always will be. Disregard the constant changing of seasons, HISTORY CANNOT REPEAT.
I say again, HISTORY CANNOT REPEAT.
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<america>To many sheep.</america>
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
Last edited by suijuris : 09-27-2005 at 01:23 AM.
Reason: Because I can. Mind your own business.
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09-27-2005, 08:02 AM
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WITHOUT PREJUDICE
Dubya: "Well, you see all these here sick and hungry people?"
Reporter: "Yes."
Dubya: "Isn't it obvious that we need more guns?"
Reporter: *perplexed look*
Dubya: "Isn't it?"
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The US Coast Guard which are heavily armed, have a military rank system and fly a civil flag are already capable and authorized to respond to disasters. There is absolutely no sound need to abrogate Posse Comitatus for the sake of disasters.
Might the next incident involve known weapons of war and have a war like element so as to give it a need for a 'warlike' response/deployment? So, imagine a disgruntled faction composed of ex-military types going berzerk. I suppose in such scenario, they'd have to be brandable as 'Timothy McVeigh' types and would have to be very well trained and well armed. A breakdown in US military structure? Planned insurrection?
History? Repeat itself!?
If that was the spin they were hoping to put forth, they'd likely start showing (i.e. conditioning people with) news stories of dissent among US soldiers in Iraq (i.e. soldiers get irked about their leave being canceled) and people going AWOL and fights among soldiers--they'd prob figure the holidays to be the perfect time for such things. However, there are those who dont tend to like to air breakdowns in command (research the fight over the production of a Denz3l Washington and Gen3 Hackm4n movie about a submarine) so a scenario involving some highly trained "black sheep" faction that "regular police" cant put down might be a plausible scenario where/if there is a conspiratorial effort to abrogate of P.C. and get such by Congress like a greased chitterlings through a--. Well you get the picture.
Reports/intel concerning alarm (on the part of two SE Asian govts) over potential internal breakdowns in US military structure [in light of the sacking of Kevin Byrnes] might be more soundly based than not. Planned insurrection?
Maybe a stretch?
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09-27-2005, 09:16 AM
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Bottle the Federal (and World) Government Genie!
The federal (and world) government genie keeps bringing the People unintended results, yet the People seem to want more.
For example: World War I, was going to end all wars, history shows another result. The FBI (J. Edgar Hoover) will protect the people, however, they did not seem to understand anything about organized crime, and they let several terror suspects go on to carry out 9-11 attacks. FAA will protect the skies, really? Bush admits that he failed in New Orleans, yet he wants the chance to fail on a much larger scale. The government talks peace through war, nevertheless, they merely bring more war and confusion.
Let's stop making wishes to the beast, and bind it down with the chains of the Constitution (the bottle).
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It is dangerous to be right when your government is wrong. -Voltaire
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09-27-2005, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
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Originally Posted by fulltitle
Dubya: "Well, you see all these here sick and hungry people?"
Reporter: "Yes."
Dubya: "Isn't it obvious that we need more guns?"
Reporter: *perplexed look*
Dubya: "Isn't it?"
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heh heh. That about sums it up.
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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09-27-2005, 01:53 PM
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On the same line of thinking...
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09-27-2005, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by White House
President Bush yesterday sought to federalize hurricane-relief efforts, removing governors from the decision-making process.
"It wouldn't be necessary to get a request from the governor or take other action," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said yesterday.
"This would be," he added, "more of an automatic trigger."
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Yep. And once you pull the trigger, the only way to stop the bullets is with warm bodies.
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When a statute, code, or court holding changes tomorrow, does reality change? Does truth change? Does right and wrong change?
If so, there are no absolutes, and the only logical conclusion is that reality, truth, and right and wrong are determined arbitrarily on a daily basis by those with the most power, guns, and money, and the rest of us can choose to run, fight, or be their slaves.
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09-27-2005, 04:17 PM
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This is the real reason that this is going to happen.
http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?t=3591
Bush got dissed by a woman govna, and he ain't a happy cowboy.
Believe it, they will federalize natural disasters, and that definition will be broad.
Buy your body armor now while you still can.
Henry Franklin
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09-27-2005, 04:29 PM
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The Outta Commissiona
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Any good body armor dealers?
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09-27-2005, 04:35 PM
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09-27-2005, 06:30 PM
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HB,
Governor Blanco was totally correct in her decision not to sign over control of the National Guard to Dubya! Without researching the agreement between the states and the feds concerning command and control of Guard assets, I believe they constitute a lawful state militia ONLY as long as the Governor has command. Im sure FEMA is gonna try to change that.
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