National ID...Mark of the Beast...READ THIS!

[charlesa6]

Absolutely right! Thanx for the feedback.

[lionel]

Brothers,
My post was not meant to draw anyone's ire. It was meant strictly from a spiritual standpoint that there is no where in the bible that even remotely implies that the mark of the beast will be in the form of an ID card. I AM NOT A QUATLOOS MEMBER AND I TAKE OFFENSE TO THE MEMBER THAT SAID THAT!!! I am a Christian, sovereign, MAN capable of making my own decisions concerning my commercial affairs. If you would have thoroughly read my post, you would have seen where I said to oppose the national ID card for many other reasons, but not because it is the mark of the beast. Read your bible and know what is about to befall this wicked world, or you will fall victim to the traps that the enemy has lying in wait for us. As an end to my post, I wished peace and blessings to the poster, so that he would know that my comments were not made in anger, but in love by trying to keep the focus where it needs to be. I wish to have no beef with anyone on this forum, but when some members attack others without knowing the true motives of that person. It's enough to make no one want to share what knowledge they have. God bless.

[macerico]

Well, the DVD will spell this out better, but let's get this much certain.

It's not a claim that the "national ID" card is the "mark of the beast." However, there is little room to doubt that it is the single greatest thrust forward to facilitate the "mark of the beast."

If we tolerate it being imposed, it's that much more the masses will be swept into conformity when the Antichrist rises to power. Such steps should be vigorously resisted at any time or place.

It is a FACT that if the powerbrokers get their way, you won't drive, have a bank account, or have a job without accepting a "national ID." Without a bank account or a job, how much "buying and selling" will any person be able to do (don't think of independent types like us, think of the average Joe out there)?

The ability to deny a person the freedom to buy or sell is a major halmark to watch for the appearance of the mark of the beast.

Next, it is a FACT that they already have used RFID technology in implanted chips on humans. The RFID chip will be incorporated into the national ID, and as soon as the issued cards prove subject to identity theft (or some "terrorist" attack), it will be pushed to just go with implanted chips. This isn't speculation, the experts are already talking about it...and we have 2 years (for the masses....federal employees are to be compliant this year or lose their jobs) before the CARDS even come out.

No matter what your interpretation on Bible scripture is, the idea of anyone having to have an ID in order to hold a job, have a bank account should be abhorent....nonetheless, it has happened already in some form or another. That we now have a new generation of ID that will make all you do tracable (and controlable) should be apparant in its biblical implications.

[BOBT12]

Originally Posted by macerico

Well, the DVD will spell this out better, but let's get this much certain.

It's not a claim that the "national ID" card is the "mark of the beast." However, there is little room to doubt that it is the single greatest thrust forward to facilitate the "mark of the beast."

If we tolerate it being imposed, it's that much more the masses will be swept into conformity when the Antichrist rises to power. Such steps should be vigorously resisted at any time or place.

It is a FACT that if the powerbrokers get their way, you won't drive, have a bank account, or have a job without accepting a "national ID." Without a bank account or a job, how much "buying and selling" will any person be able to do (don't think of independent types like us, think of the average Joe out there)?

The ability to deny a person the freedom to buy or sell is a major halmark to watch for the appearance of the mark of the beast.

Next, it is a FACT that they already have used RFID technology in implanted chips on humans. The RFID chip will be incorporated into the national ID, and as soon as the issued cards prove subject to identity theft (or some "terrorist" attack), it will be pushed to just go with implanted chips. This isn't speculation, the experts are already talking about it...and we have 2 years (for the masses....federal employees are to be compliant this year or lose their jobs) before the CARDS even come out.

No matter what your interpretation on Bible scripture is, the idea of anyone having to have an ID in order to hold a job, have a bank account should be abhorent....nonetheless, it has happened already in some form or another. That we now have a new generation of ID that will make all you do tracable (and controlable) should be apparant in its biblical implications.

In my humble opinion, truer words have not been spoken.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by charlesa6

Is it Quatloos empire is falling down or what?
Are they getting tired of their site or what?
Why are they trying to cross over to another site?
Why are they vicious?
Why peoples hate them so much?
What Quatloos stand for?
What are their % of agreeable nature?
Can somebody give me a clue?
How do you recongnize Quatloos members?
Any name rank series #?

I feel qualified to handle this one folks! You may not know how refreshing it is to hear of somebody explaining why I wrote over there for a year.

All in all I was tuning the echo chamber by acquiring a proper and accurate profile of that protectionism for the status quo. The Economy is a confidence scam and so there is a venomous Insultinator in place to protect against propogation of truth. Escapism, denial and blatant appeasement of false balances in order to keep honest truth-loving people from discovering the truth.

They loved me there! So much so that when I had my profile in hand, some of them followed me back over here out of boredom. They missed me there; well, they would have genuinely missed me but for that I started backing up my statements with documents. The most adoring of the Insultinator were the most vicious about getting me kicked off the forum. What is amusing is that they could not do it! The Admin there understood what I was saying about the Views column.

I have enjoyed several books and stints with various charasmatic and evangelical Christian and Jewish congregations. Henry Franklin has really hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned. I understand it as an ailment; Sinderesis. The compulsion to do what is right no matter what and that seems to be seated into the Magna Charta - where the king turned over sovereignty to the Knights Templar and was allowed to keep his Esquires in cowardly deceit - to fool Americans into thinking that there was some sovereignty to win from King George III by winning the Revolutionary War.

One of the most enjoyable books on Historicism [as opposed to Pretorism (that the Book of Revelation has already transpired) and Futurism (that the events are in our (near) future] is The Other End of the World; an alternate theory linking prophecy and history by Roger Rusk - brother of Dean Rusk, Secretary of State in Afroyim v. Rusk. The case jacket proves the district boundaries about the Real ID or whatever they are calling it this time (yawn)*. Historicism mixed with a mastery of The Trachtenberg Speed System of Basic Mathematics, Cutler and Shane (passed to me from my high-level Freemason grandfather on my mother's side and accountant for A. C. Nielson http://www2.acnielsen.com/site/index.shtml managing the money behind the development of biometrics and combinatorial mathematics, also relating me directly to Christopher Wren) has given me a special insight into the typical Christian Eschaton (derived from eschatology).

Simply put, where I am going with this is that Jesus Christ admonishes all who will listen to figure the endtimes by the chieftain of the Babylonian sorcerers and astrologers, which kind of kicks the standard 501(c)(3) mindset pretty hard in the teeth don'tcha think? Historicism reconciles prophecy to be initial, ongoing and fulfilled all-at-once or maybe The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot has played a role as one of my favorite physics books. See it right there in the middle next to College Physics?

It just seems that Christians would start pre-1611 King James' Freemasonry/Rosicrucianism/Illuminatus with a quotation from Jesus, the Messiah of God Himself. That is to say, understand that the true gospel was originally delivered in an encryption called parable and reading the Epistle Dedicatory may have the effect of illumination:

Mat 24:1 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you...

Mat 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
Mat 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand (funny how the computer interpretes "colon - end parenthesis")

Jesus delivered the Key to the question and as many times as I have read the Bible, I see it nowhere answered concisely but Matthew 24:15 - except of course in the Book of Daniel, like Jesus says.

Of course time defeats the rantings of the prophet false. Hal Lindsey and Jack van Empe etc. all fall by the wayside to anybody who has read the Levitican test for a false prophet. (How very punny the masses will follow these false prophets through broken deadline after broken deadline. I remember Monte Judah and Michael Rood were at least honorable enough to admit they failed the test of time.) However we can look at timelines past and see some very clear indications the holography of Historicism is right on the money. That there is a numero-linguistic interface keyed harmonically with knowledge of the Name of God that allows us a back door around time and space into Epiphany. That would be how the symbolic Israelites writing ancient scripts were able to know that the Messiah would come and change the face of history. And that the Messiah would come in two forms, the Messiah ben Joseph and the Messiah ben David.

Roger Rusk's favorite example was the fall of Jerusalem to a Christian power in 1917; predicted by the mathematics of the Writing on the Wall - MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN decrypts to 2,520 gerahs. That is to say Dr. Grattam Guinness (of the Records) noted that 1917 was 2,520 years following Nebukudnezzer's Kingdom. The Palestinians were giving the crusading army a tough go northerly into Jerusalem. A mysterious man came into camp one night and told the general the route that Joshua of the Bible took to conquer Israel millennium before. The general split forces and was going around to the east but was spotted. The Palestinians dropped flyers of paper intelligence about the flank from the east but the general's name sounded very close to the Arabic word for Allah and Jerusalem was therefore taken without a shot fired. [I find that amusing. Think of the flyers from heaven telling the soldiers that God would be arriving in Jerusalem very soon.] Like with General Gershon Salamon at the end of the Six Day War, a lone Palestinian stood at the gate and gave the invader a guided tour of the Temple Mount** instead of fighting.

360 x 7 is the Week. So taking this to heart I applied it to more modern times; the actual Writing on the Wall occurred 62 years after the Kingdom of Nebukednezzer; marking that beginning with the conquest of Jerusalem (586 BC), not Dr. Guinness' initial campaign of 604 BC.

Interestingly that led me to 1997 and matching up the symbols I was able to predict that there would be violence on the Temple Mount exactly 1,260 days following the cessation of the daily oblation in March of 1997 on September 28, 2000. I was telling people about that for three weeks ahead of time. Of course in hindsight I wish I had filed that with the county clerk and recorder prior to the event.

I do not want to exceed character limits on the post so I will leave that there for now:

http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/sui...elCalendar.jpg
Daniel's Calendar



Regards,

David Merrill.


* The key word of art being subsequently never ratified... into the District United States' Constitution of the United States of America - the definition of US in the United States Codes is territorial; not exceeding Ten Miles Square etc.

** I met Gershon while he was lecturing and raising funds from the Christians to renew sacrifices on the Temple Mount. (I guess Abraham was right about idolatry [worshipping government through 501(c)(3) tribute] because the lines of Christians donating after his lecture was a really messed up spectacle. The second night me and my friend were spotted not donating and the promoting agent grabbed the microphone and was telling me and Uncle Al (Judah in a kippah with tzit-tzits) to borrow a nickel for someone, whatever, just to go through the action of donating!) The Palestinian tourguide led Gershon to the original cornerstone of Solomon's Temple and Gershon has made it his mission to construct from that Cornerstone the Messianic Temple of the New Age. A friend of mine brought me a hat from Gershon as a souvenir from Jerusalem.

[charlesa6]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

I feel qualified to handle this one folks! You may not know how refreshing it is to hear of somebody explaining why I wrote over there for a year.

All in all I was tuning the echo chamber by acquiring a proper and accurate profile of that protectionism for the status quo. The Economy is a confidence scam and so there is a venomous Insultinator in place to protect against propogation of truth. Escapism, denial and blatant appeasement of false balances in order to keep honest truth-loving people from discovering the truth.

They loved me there! So much so that when I had my profile in hand, some of them followed me back over here out of boredom. They missed me there; well, they would have genuinely missed me but for that I started backing up my statements with documents. The most adoring of the Insultinator were the most vicious about getting me kicked off the forum. What is amusing is that they could not do it! The Admin there understood what I was saying about the Views column.

I have enjoyed several books and stints with various charasmatic and evangelical Christian and Jewish congregations. Henry Franklin has really hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned. I understand it as an ailment; Sinderesis. The compulsion to do what is right no matter what and that seems to be seated into the Magna Charta - where the king turned over sovereignty to the Knights Templar and was allowed to keep his Esquires in cowardly deceit - to fool Americans into thinking that there was some sovereignty to win from King George III by winning the Revolutionary War.

One of the most enjoyable books on Historicism [as opposed to Pretorism (that the Book of Revelation has already transpired) and Futurism (that the events are in our (near) future] is The Other End of the World; an alternate theory linking prophecy and history by Roger Rusk - brother of Dean Rusk, Secretary of State in Afroyim v. Rusk. The case jacket proves the district boundaries about the Real ID or whatever they are calling it this time (yawn)*. Historicism mixed with a mastery of The Trachtenberg Speed System of Basic Mathematics, Cutler and Shane (passed to me from my high-level Freemason grandfather on my mother's side and accountant for A. C. Nielson http://www2.acnielsen.com/site/index.shtml managing the money behind the development of biometrics and combinatorial mathematics, also relating me directly to Christopher Wren) has given me a special insight into the typical Christian Eschaton (derived from eschatology).

Simply put, where I am going with this is that Jesus Christ admonishes all who will listen to figure the endtimes by the chieftain of the Babylonian sorcerers and astrologers, which kind of kicks the standard 501(c)(3) mindset pretty hard in the teeth don'tcha think? Historicism reconciles prophecy to be initial, ongoing and fulfilled all-at-once or maybe The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot has played a role as one of my favorite physics books. See it right there in the middle next to College Physics?

It just seems that Christians would start pre-1611 King James' Freemasonry/Rosicrucianism/Illuminatus with a quotation from Jesus, the Messiah of God Himself. That is to say, understand that the true gospel was originally delivered in an encryption called parable and reading the Epistle Dedicatory may have the effect of illumination:



Jesus delivered the Key to the question and as many times as I have read the Bible, I see it nowhere answered concisely but Matthew 24:15 - except of course in the Book of Daniel, like Jesus says.

Of course time defeats the rantings of the prophet false. Hal Lindsey and Jack van Empe etc. all fall by the wayside to anybody who has read the Levitican test for a false prophet. (How very punny the masses will follow these false prophets through broken deadline after broken deadline. I remember Monte Judah and Michael Rood were at least honorable enough to admit they failed the test of time.) However we can look at timelines past and see some very clear indications the holography of Historicism is right on the money. That there is a numero-linguistic interface keyed harmonically with knowledge of the Name of God that allows us a back door around time and space into Epiphany. That would be how the symbolic Israelites writing ancient scripts were able to know that the Messiah would come and change the face of history. And that the Messiah would come in two forms, the Messiah ben Joseph and the Messiah ben David.

Roger Rusk's favorite example was the fall of Jerusalem to a Christian power in 1917; predicted by the mathematics of the Writing on the Wall - MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN decrypts to 2,520 gerahs. That is to say Dr. Grattam Guinness (of the Records) noted that 1917 was 2,520 years following Nebukudnezzer's Kingdom. The Palestinians were giving the crusading army a tough go northerly into Jerusalem. A mysterious man came into camp one night and told the general the route that Joshua of the Bible took to conquer Israel millennium before. The general split forces and was going around to the east but was spotted. The Palestinians dropped flyers of paper intelligence about the flank from the east but the general's name sounded very close to the Arabic word for Allah and Jerusalem was therefore taken without a shot fired. [I find that amusing. Think of the flyers from heaven telling the soldiers that God would be arriving in Jerusalem very soon.] Like with General Gershon Salamon at the end of the Six Day War, a lone Palestinian stood at the gate and gave the invader a guided tour of the Temple Mount** instead of fighting.

360 x 7 is the Week. So taking this to heart I applied it to more modern times; the actual Writing on the Wall occurred 62 years after the Kingdom of Nebukednezzer; marking that beginning with the conquest of Jerusalem (586 BC), not Dr. Guinness' initial campaign of 604 BC.

Interestingly that led me to 1997 and matching up the symbols I was able to predict that there would be violence on the Temple Mount exactly 1,260 days following the cessation of the daily oblation in March of 1997 on September 28, 2000. I was telling people about that for three weeks ahead of time. Of course in hindsight I wish I had filed that with the county clerk and recorder prior to the event.

I do not want to exceed character limits on the post so I will leave that there for now:

http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/sui...elCalendar.jpg
Daniel's Calendar



Regards,

David Merrill.


* The key word of art being subsequently never ratified... into the District United States' Constitution of the United States of America - the definition of US in the United States Codes is territorial; not exceeding Ten Miles Square etc.

** I met Gershon while he was lecturing and raising funds from the Christians to renew sacrifices on the Temple Mount. (I guess Abraham was right about idolatry [worshipping government through 501(c)(3) tribute] because the lines of Christians donating after his lecture was a really messed up spectacle. The second night me and my friend were spotted not donating and the promoting agent grabbed the microphone and was telling me and Uncle Al (Judah in a kippah with tzit-tzits) to borrow a nickel for someone, whatever, just to go through the action of donating!) The Palestinian tourguide led Gershon to the original cornerstone of Solomon's Temple and Gershon has made it his mission to construct from that Cornerstone the Messianic Temple of the New Age. A friend of mine brought me a hat from Gershon as a souvenir from Jerusalem.

Thanx David, you always astonish me how you put all this together in opportune approach.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by charlesa6

Thanx David, you always astonish me how you put all this together in opportune approach.

Thank you! It serves as a bit of a reality check to hear somebody was actually able to take those points above and tie them to the subject matter of the thread, much less to one another. Like Maximilian Cohen in Pi, Faith in Chaos, "It's fair to say I'm stepping out on a limb. But I am on the edge; that's where it happens."

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...Pi-snippet.wmv @ minute mark 8:35.

And that is a cool term, "opportune approach". I wonder where you got that?

I have always gotten a thrill out of Exodus 13:16 - having the mark of God on the hand and forehead as a monument leaves little room for the Mark of the Beast.

Originally Posted by Libel of Review in admiralty

Law of the flag: Man is created in the image of God and to reduce a man to chattel against the national debt is an affront to God. Exodus 13:16 and Genesis 1:27.

Exo 13:16 And it shall be for a token upon thine hand, and for frontlets between thine eyes: for by strength of hand the LORD brought us forth out of Egypt.

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Regards,

David Merrill.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

[cut]

Of course time defeats the rantings of the prophet false. Hal Lindsey and Jack
van Empe etc. all fall by the wayside to anybody who has read the Levitican
test for a false prophet. (How very punny the masses will follow these false
prophets through broken deadline after broken deadline. I remember Monte Judah
and Michael Rood were at least honorable enough to admit they failed the test
of time.) However we can look at timelines past and see some very clear
indications the holography of Historicism is right on the money. That
there is a numero-linguistic interface keyed harmonically with knowledge of the
Name of God that allows us a back door around time and space into Epiphany.
That would be how the symbolic Israelites writing ancient scripts were able to
know that the Messiah would come and change the face of history. And that the
Messiah would come in two forms, the Messiah ben Joseph and the Messiah ben
David.

[cut]

Excuse me, David, neither of our brother in christ Hal nor Jack has
ever said they were prophets.

They all (I refer to others who do also what Hal and Jack do) analyse
current events in contet of biblical *analysis*.

Can you offer evidnece, written or video, quoting themselves that they are
prophets? I have heard many of them say of themselves that we "are not
prophets - we are only analysts."


thanks.

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by idknow

Excuse me, David, neither of our brother in christ Hal nor Jack has
ever said they were prophets.

They all (I refer to others who do also what Hal and Jack do) analyse
current events in contet of biblical *analysis*.

Can you offer evidnece, written or video, quoting themselves that they are
prophets? I have heard many of them say of themselves that we "are not
prophets - we are only analysts."


thanks.

I am sure that is what they are saying now and that keeps a following; after having the predictions be wrong in the past. I quit listening to either of them years ago.

The Late Great Planet Earth - wasn't that the name? Have you read it? I read the second one about the first one and that is really where he got bold about prophecy because of 85% prediction success in the first. I have not watched Jack van Empe for a long time but recall around 1999 he and his wife were very convincing that the Rapture would be any moment. It makes sense that as the Rapture never comes to fruition, they would tone that down to being analysts.

If you want proof, pick up the old videos and books. My point was really not clearly made. The Messianic Jewish movement is Torah oriented and therefore when these speakers like Monte Judah and Michael Rood were proven false by the Levitical testing, they had to publicly admit they were false prophets. The mainstream Christians do not hold their leaders to that same standard.


Regards,

David Merrill.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

I am sure that is what they are saying now and that keeps
a following; after having the predictions be wrong in the past. I quit
listening to either of them years ago.

The Late Great Planet Earth - wasn't that the name? Have you read it? I
read the second one about the first one and that is really where he got bold
about prophecy because of 85% prediction success in the first. I have not
watched Jack van Empe for a long time but recall around 1999 he and his wife
were very convincing that the Rapture would be any moment. It makes sense that
as the Rapture never comes to fruition, they would tone that down to being
analysts.

If you want proof, pick up the old videos and books. My point was really not
clearly made. The Messianic Jewish movement is Torah oriented and therefore
when these speakers like Monte Judah and Michael Rood were proven false by the
Levitical testing, they had to publicly admit they were false prophets. The
mainstream Christians do not hold their leaders to that same standard.


Regards,

David Merrill.

We do not kill prophets anymore.

If they made a mistake in years past then forgive them.

Since I have listened to them, I have not heard such an error of claiming to be
prophets; As I said, they all say they are analysing the news in context of
God's word.

That is NOT prophecy.

As for "real soon now", we ARE to have an expectant hope that Our Savior
returns any second now; did the Van Impe's set a date?

Using scripture analysis to determine a season is NOT prophecy nor date-setting
and as far as I know Neither Hal nor Hack have set dates.

Finally, in this commerce-driven economy and activity, approval of someone
by their audience is clearly shown by Nielson ratings.

For myself, I'm disappointed that TBN no longer carries Hal's show - it's
been a few months now and I miss his analysis.