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Old 04-27-2006, 04:43 PM
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Red face More National/Global ID Card Scams!

Here is a little more information on the developing ID cards to be forced on nations.

Two More Free Nations Fall To Biometric Prison,

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Aussies must all have biometric "access cards" by 2010, Scots to be forced on database with Citizens' National Entitlement Card

Steve Watson / Infowars | April 27 2006

When is a national ID card not a national ID card? That's correct my Orwellian students, its when your leader says its a "biometric access card".

Australia is set to revert back to being a prison state as all citizens are to be forced to carry the "access card" by 2010.

The card would include a computer chip with biometric information and photograph, and is 'designed to reduce welfare and identity fraud, and protect against terrorists."
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Old 04-27-2006, 07:51 PM
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The Real ID Rebellion

By Declan McCullagh
As posted at CNET
Story last modified Wed Apr 19 12:58:12 PDT 2006

In 1775, New Hampshire was the first colony to declare its independence from oppressive laws and taxes levied by the British crown.

Now it may become the first state to declare its independence from an oppressive digital ID law concocted in Washington, D.C.

New Hampshire’s House of Representatives has overwhelmingly approved a remarkable bill, HB 1582, that would prohibit the state from participating in the national ID card system that will be created in 2008. A state Senate vote is expected as early as next week.

The federal law in question is the Real ID Act (here’s our FAQ on the topic) that was glued on to a military spending and tsunami relief bill last year. Because few politicians are courageous enough to be seen as opposing tsunami aid, the measure sailed through the U.S. Senate by a 100-0 vote and navigated its way through the House 368 votes to 58.

Unless states issue new, electronically readable ID cards that adhere to federal standards, the law says, Americans will need a passport to do everyday things like travel on an airplane, open a bank account, sign up for Social Security or enter a federal building.

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security is currently devising regulations for these federalized ID cards. One possibility is that the “electronically readable” requirement will be satisfied by embedding a radio frequency identification (RFID) chip. (They’ll already be appearing in U.S. passports starting in October.)

That prospect alarmed New Hampshire state Rep. Neal Kurk so much that he gave an impassioned floor speech during the March 8 debate saying the Granite State must not participate in the Real ID system.

“There are times, Mr. Speaker, when we must look beyond the mundane and the pragmatic and take a stand based on our values,” Kurk said. “I believe this is one of those times…I don’t believe the people of New Hampshire elected us to help the federal government create a national ID card.”

Kurk invoked the memory of Patrick Henry’s revolutionary speech, “Give me liberty or give me death,” and New Hampshire’s motto, “Live Free or Die.”

“The war on our civil liberties is actually begun,” Kurk said. “There’s a price to be paid for independence. But I ask you, what price– liberty?”
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Old 08-10-2006, 09:23 AM
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THE REAL ID CARD - IMPECCABLE TIMING

Nancy Levant
August 9, 2006
NewsWithViews.com



At large, the American people are still unaware of the issuance of the Real ID card forthcoming in May of 2008. This new national/international ID card, and its interactivity with national/international databases, can access our medical, financial, driving, Social Security, license(s), firearms registrations, and political status inside its high tech/little nano brain. In essence, it holds our private lives on a swipe-able card that is then privy to any organization, retailer, or person requesting our identification or our money. In other words, our life histories accessible upon command from one 2X3 inch card.

Having no choice but to comply, most American people will accept their new national/international ID card. It is my understanding that without the card, we will be denied bank accounts in the United States of America, a driver’s license, and the right to fly on airplanes unless we have been issued a Real ID card. One might imagine that global retailers might require the Real ID to purchase food and gasoline. Take a look at your current driver’s license. Check the expiration date. 2008 would be a good global guess.



For those of us who have seen United Nations military vehicles in the United States, and who have also noticed convoys of military tanks being transported through the wilderness areas of our nation – the same areas that have been locked down and away from the American people via Biosphere Reserves and conservation corridors - we have realized for a great many years that, as one patriot stated, the “stage was being set” for difficult times on American soil – the key issue that mass media ignores at its professional finest. So, with stages being set, one must also look to the timing of the Real ID card, and to 2008 in general. Let us not forget all the other paramilitary systems in our nation, like the Department of Homeland Security, FEMA, Citizens Corp groups, Neighborhood Watch groups, C.O.P.S. (Community Oriented Policing Services), the militarizing of law enforcement departments, and the many new for-hire corporations that offer private armies with weapons for a price. And then, of course, there are the U.N. peacekeeping forces, which the American military has been actively involved with for many, many decades while, simultaneously and incrementally, our “leaders” have been closing our homeland military bases during these same decades.

The professional timing of the Real ID card in 2008, and its mandatory issuance, brings to mind several forthcoming coincidences and issues. The collecting and databasing of all personal information of every American adult – coinciding with the CFR’s North American Community – and all global government infrastructures in place and play, one must consider the following:





  • How are “domestic terrorists” determined and identified?

  • Who will be held in the Civilian Labor Camps on American soil?

  • What is the real issue behind the “identity theft” propaganda?

  • Why are the off-limits American wilderness areas crawling with secret military operations?

  • And why the mandatory issuance of an ID card that sums up every American citizen with one swipe?

One cannot help but to almost laugh when it comes to considering how directly global intentions rest beneath our noses. So easy to see, yet so blindly the public goes about its merry and dull way. On that note, the Real ID card will ultimately seal your fate. You will be a compliant and completely identifiable slave to the New World Order, or you will be its enemy – and your Real ID will determine which global creature you shall be. Therefore, America, let us not in-fight. The fact of our demise as free people exists no matter whose research is right or wrong. The stage is, in fact, being set for our nation’s conquering. The Democrats and Republicans have seen to this fact and have worked steadfastly to raise their one-world government. They knew from the beginning that people with property, firearms, and rights were their primary problems, or in other words, the people of the United States of America and other westernized nations. Our “leadership” is not what they seem.

The public acceptance of the Real ID in May of 2008 seals the deal. It will be more than interesting to see which of our friends, neighbors, and family members will willingly sign onto their fate as new “citizens” of the global police state. Just keep telling yourselves that you voted them into office. So did I. As such, we have a lot of soul searching to do and very, very little time – about 21 months. Are we going to continue to allow our “representatives” to march off with this nation and our Constitutional freedom, or are we going to unite and reclaim OUR nation? Ignorance is never bliss. It is abject slavery, and this time, the enslavement is backed by a system far greater than concepts or perceived notions of freedom.



It’s past time to do more than wave flags, wear patriotic tee shirts, hats, and pins. It’s time to serve through action and duty to this nation. Start an A.C.E. (Americans for Constitutional Enforcement) chapter in your neighborhood NOW. Request an information packet (contactus@a4ce.org) and create your local chapter. It’s YOUR job and Constitutional duty to save our nation and to preserve freedom. We have been betrayed. For the sake of your children, open your eyes and act. The only potential answer is to UNITE for freedom and to command that freedom with one voice. Then, as a nation UNITED in knowledge, we can rid ourselves of our “representative” globalists. Now, please stop the bickering and bitching, especially of the partisanship flavor, and get to WORK. Global government is non-partisan minus the master-slave divide.
You may also request a mailed copy of the A.C.E. Information Packet by sending $10.00 to A.C.E., P.O. Box 293, Iron Mountain, MI 49801.


© 2006 Nancy Levant - All Rights Reserved





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Old 08-10-2006, 10:00 AM
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In 1775, New Hampshire was the first colony to declare its independence from oppressive laws and taxes levied by the British crown.

Now it may become the first state to declare its independence from an oppressive digital ID law concocted in Washington, D.C.

New Hampshire’s House of Representatives has overwhelmingly approved a remarkable bill, HB 1582, that would prohibit the state from participating in the national ID card system that will be created in 2008. A state Senate vote is expected as early as next week.

At least the representatives in one state have the balls to take a stand for the rights of the people and state sovereignty.
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Old 08-10-2006, 10:12 AM
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Matthew 7:20
Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Well I must say I am against this one...over the other side of the water it is a major concern and has and still is in heavy debate. No doubt the british Governmant will be pushing this all the way in the Commons to satisfy their future whim. Take alook at this link...

http://www.no2id.net/

Keep up the fight guys and gals as we are going to need the man power and foundation one day to fight against this machine once and for all...

Mike UK
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Old 08-10-2006, 11:58 AM
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Legislative committee votes to accept federal money for Real ID

CONCORD, N.H. --A legislative committee voted Tuesday to accept $3 million in federal funds to launch a new program applying stricter identification requirements to people seeking driver's licenses.

New Hampshire is one of two states chosen to pilot the federal Real ID Act; Kentucky is the other. The law grew out of a recommendation to standardize drivers licenses by the Sept. 11 Commission.

The law requires all states, by 2008, to verify documents such as birth certificates, Social Security cards and passports when people apply for driver's licenses. The licenses also must be machine readable.

The governor and Executive Council still must approve the grant, and Gov. John Lynch has said he has serious questions about the program. Many opponents of Real ID say it will lead to a national identification card and jeopardize personal identity information. Others argue it will cost the state far more than $3 million to implement.

Motor Vehicles Director Virginia Beecher told the committee she has no intention of sharing driver information with a national database, except for the system that now exists to identify problem drivers to police.

"We would protect state's rights and individual privacy," she said.

Beecher and Department of Safety Commissioner **** Flynn promoted the pilot grant as an opportunity to use federal dollars for a much-needed overhaul of New Hampshire's existing computer licensing system which dates back 20 years. She said the $3 million would cover most of that cost and save the state from having to pay for upgrades.

If the state does not agree to issue drivers licenses under Real ID, residents would not be able to use their licenses to board planes or enter federal buildings under the law, Beecher also noted.

"The citizens are really going to be inconvenienced," she said.

Chairman Fred King, R-Colebrook, noted Real ID was federal law. "Sooner or later, we're going to have to do this," he said.

But Rep. Peter Franklin, D-Newport, argued the state should steer clear of Real ID for privacy reasons.

"You say it isn't a national ID card, but it may well be a national ID card (in the future)," he said.

Opponents of Real ID from the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance watched from the audience as the vote went in favor of accepting the money, 8-2.

Denis Goddard, the group's research director, said he wasn't surprised at the vote.

Even if people deny there are plans for a national database, one may be created in the future -- if only to save money.

It's much cheaper to have a single database than to maintain 50 separate ones, he said.

"If $3 million is tempting, I'm sure a few billion is going to be more," he said.

He also said it's hard to know exactly what the law is requiring. For example, what does the requirement that licenses be "machine readable," he asked?

The Joint Fiscal Committee did ask that Beecher come back to their committee in the future with a budget to show how she intends to spend the federal money to implement Real ID.
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the only way to make the pukes in goverment respect your right to NOT ID YOURSELF is to become a state National..... as Weis has commented ,now is the time to correct ones status
before the 2008 deadline.
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CONCORD, N.H. --A legislative committee voted Tuesday to accept $3 million in federal funds to launch a new program applying stricter identification requirements to people seeking driver's licenses.

New Hampshire is one of two states chosen to pilot the federal Real ID Act; Kentucky is the other. The law grew out of a recommendation to standardize drivers licenses by the Sept. 11 Commission.

The law requires all states, by 2008, to verify documents such as birth certificates, Social Security cards and passports when people apply for driver's licenses. The licenses also must be machine readable.

The governor and Executive Council still must approve the grant, and Gov. John Lynch has said he has serious questions about the program. Many opponents of Real ID say it will lead to a national identification card and jeopardize personal identity information. Others argue it will cost the state far more than $3 million to implement.

Motor Vehicles Director Virginia Beecher told the committee she has no intention of sharing driver information with a national database, except for the system that now exists to identify problem drivers to police.

"We would protect state's rights and individual privacy," she said.

Beecher and Department of Safety Commissioner **** Flynn promoted the pilot grant as an opportunity to use federal dollars for a much-needed overhaul of New Hampshire's existing computer licensing system which dates back 20 years. She said the $3 million would cover most of that cost and save the state from having to pay for upgrades.

If the state does not agree to issue drivers licenses under Real ID, residents would not be able to use their licenses to board planes or enter federal buildings under the law, Beecher also noted.

"The citizens are really going to be inconvenienced," she said.

Chairman Fred King, R-Colebrook, noted Real ID was federal law. "Sooner or later, we're going to have to do this," he said.

But Rep. Peter Franklin, D-Newport, argued the state should steer clear of Real ID for privacy reasons.

"You say it isn't a national ID card, but it may well be a national ID card (in the future)," he said.

Opponents of Real ID from the New Hampshire Liberty Alliance watched from the audience as the vote went in favor of accepting the money, 8-2.

Denis Goddard, the group's research director, said he wasn't surprised at the vote.

Even if people deny there are plans for a national database, one may be created in the future -- if only to save money.

It's much cheaper to have a single database than to maintain 50 separate ones, he said.

"If $3 million is tempting, I'm sure a few billion is going to be more," he said.

He also said it's hard to know exactly what the law is requiring. For example, what does the requirement that licenses be "machine readable," he asked?

The Joint Fiscal Committee did ask that Beecher come back to their committee in the future with a budget to show how she intends to spend the federal money to implement Real ID.
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the only way to make the pukes in goverment respect your right to NOT ID YOURSELF is to become a state National..... as Weis has commented ,now is the time to correct ones status
before the 2008 deadline.

Of course this can only be accomplished by utilizing debt instruments to purchase a 'plan' that is distributed by LB Bork. Ironic. Enter and perpetuate the systemic fraud in order to assist in defeating the fraud.

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doesn't cost me a dime to tell the government to go **** themselves though.....
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Of course this can only be accomplished by utilizing debt instruments to purchase a 'plan' that is distributed by LB Bork. Ironic. Enter and perpetuate the systemic fraud in order to assist in defeating the fraud.

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