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Old 05-16-2006, 11:25 AM
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Flight 77 & Judicial Watch

Apparently Judicial Watch was supposed to show the videos of Flight 77 today after a long legal battle.

Wonder how much footage remains after the editing...
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Old 05-16-2006, 11:28 AM
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http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.html

The site has been busy and down since 1pm today when they said they were going to show it.

I didn't want to get your hopes up like mine were. Several people I know have been trying to get to the link since the announcement this morning.

Waiting and waiting...
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Old 05-16-2006, 12:32 PM
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CNN has been broadcasting it off and on.
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Old 05-16-2006, 01:22 PM
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Dept of defense posted the videos on their site too but seem to be getting too much traffic.

http://www.defenselink.mil/pubs/foi/index.html


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Old 05-16-2006, 06:42 PM
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:34 AM
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Flight 77 & Judicial Watch

I seen it last night on Geraldo, and the local news, and it's the same video the author of "in plane site" showed us. In my opinion, everyone should now be of the same opinion that this could not possibly be a 757, but in fact is either a drone aircraft, or a missile. Even if a 757 could have been manuevered like that, the tail on that plane is like 5 stories tall, taller than the pentagon, (or as tall) and the video clearly showed no such evidence of a plane as large as a 757. I know I couldn't detect an 5 story tail, could you?
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Old 05-17-2006, 06:48 AM
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I couldn't detect anything. I have no reason to believe that anything other than a 757 hit the Pentagon that day. Video Surveilance cameras, depending on the system, will usually only capture 30 or less frames per second. Now, Im no physics PhD but, that camera captured probaly 150 yards, or less, of green field in front of the Pentagon with a 100 ft aircraft moving at 100 mph, how much would you be able to see on the captured video at 30frames per second. There are two frames that show anything at all. The firsts is a white streak/blurr possibly a cylindrical object on the far right of the screen and the second is the start of the explosion. My bet is the film is actually a pigeon flying by the camera position and the fireball is actually super imposed on the film.

It most certainly was not the 757 that witnesses say hit the Pentagon and cannnot be the "missing" 757 with 100 souls and crew aboard.
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Old 05-17-2006, 08:45 AM
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No way a 757.

I have been in the airline industry for 20 yrs, and that was not a 757. First of all flying that low and the engines hit anything on the way in the engines are designed to shear off. You would have to be a really experienced pilot to fly that low and at that speed, which i think landing speed around 150-180 knots. I have seen what a ball of ice has done to a 727 engine. It took the engine right of the plyon. Got to go.
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Old 05-17-2006, 09:19 AM
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I'm astounded that you all were able to gather so much information out of three frames of blurry video.

Then again, I'm astounded that you are able to feed yourselves.

The plane was not coming in for a landing -- it was FLYING at full speed into a building.

It didn't make a landing approach -- it came in at a steep angle.

It wasn't a drone or a missile -- it was an airliner full of people.

What makes me so sure? I saw it from the windows of my office.

Why can't you all accept the simplest, most obvious explaination -- that terrorists commandeered four airliners and crashed three of them into occupied buildings.

Why is it necessary to invent all kinds of hare-brained conspiracy theories to explain something which the Islamic terrorists bragged about?

Finally, given how much information leaks out of the government about things that actually happen (like NSA monitoring), how can you possibly believe that this highly convoluted set of secrets, plots, and sub-plots could have been kept under wraps for years?
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Old 05-17-2006, 10:12 AM
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this link has a good documentary on the events

http://novakeo.com/?p=262
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