Hmmmmmm

[babacar]

This is pretty interesting stuff!..........

2 TOUGH QUESTIONS

Question 1:
If you knew a woman who was pregnant, who had 8 kids already, three who
were deaf, two who were blind, one mentally retarded, and she had
syphilis, would you recommend that she have an abortion?
Read the next question before looking at the response for this one.

Question 2:
It is time to elect a new world leader, and only your vote counts.
Here are the facts about the three candidates.

Candidate A
Associates with crooked politicians, and consults with astrologist.
He's had two mistresses. He also chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10
martinis a day.

Candidate B
He was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in
college and drinks a quart of whiskey every evening.
Candidate C
He is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks
an occasional beer and never cheated on his wife.
Which of these candidates would be your choice? Decide first... no
peeking, then scroll down for the response.

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Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt.
Candidate B is Winston Churchill.
Candidate C is Adolph Hitler.

And, by the way, on your answer to the abortion question: If you said
YES, you just killed Beethoven.

Pretty interesting isn't it? Makes a person think before judging someone.
Wait till you see the end of this note! Keep reading...

Never be afraid to try something new.
Remember: Amateurs...built the ark.
Professionals...built the Titanic

And Finally, can you imagine! working for a company that has a little
more than 500 employees and has the following statistics:
* 29 have been accused of spousal abuse
* 7 have been arrested for fraud
* 19 have been accused of writing bad checks
* 117 have directly or indirectly bankrupted at least 2 businesses
* 3 have done time for assault
* 71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit
* 14 have been arrested on drug-related charges
* 8 have been arrested for shoplifting
* 21 are currently defendants in lawsuits
* 84 have been arrested for drunk driving in the last year...
Can you guess which organization this is?

Give up yet?
It's the 535 members of the United States Congress. The same group that
crank out hundreds of new laws each year designed to keep the rest of us
in line.

What do you think?
Babacar

[BoyntonStu]

(Does the source of information automatically negate the accuracy?)


Imagine the event to be real. Would not all witnesses record such an event?

Hmmmm.

Another proof that the Christ of Christianity is a fabulous and not a historical character is the silence of the writers who lived during and immediately following the time he is said to have existed.

That a man named Jesus, an obscure religious teacher, the basis of this fabulous Christ, lived in Palestine about nineteen hundred years ago, may be true. But of this man we know nothing. His biography has not been written. A Renan and others have attempted to write it, but have failed -- have failed because no materials for such a work exist. Contemporary writers have left us not one word concerning him. For generations afterward, outside of a few theological epistles, we find no mention of him.

The following is a list of writers who lived and wrote during the time, or within a century after the time, that Christ is said to have lived and performed his wonderful works:

Josephus
Philo-Judaeus
Seneca
Pliny the Elder
Suetonius
Juvenal
Martial
Persius
Plutarch
Justus of Tiberius
Apollonius
Pliny the Younger
Tacitus
Quintilian
Lucanus
Epictetus
Silius Italicus
Statius
Ptolemy
Hermogones
Valerius Maximus Arrian
Petronius
Dion Pruseus
Paterculus
Appian
Theon of Smyrna
Phlegon
Pompon Mela
Quintius Curtius
Lucian
Pausanias
Valerius Flaccus
Florus Lucius
Favorinus
Phaedrus
Damis
Aulus Gellius
Columella
Dio Chrysostom
Lysias
Appion of Alexandria

Enough of the writings of the authors named in the foregoing list remains to form a library. Yet in this mass of Jewish and Pagan literature, aside from two forged passages in the works of a Jewish author, and two disputed passages in the works of Roman writers, there is to be found no mention of Jesus Christ.

http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/rmsbrg02.htm



BoyntonStu

[weishaupt1776]

http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html

[BoyntonStu]

Originally Posted by weishaupt1776

http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/jesusexisthub.html

From your site:

""Come off it, Holding. Just because a consensus of historians say that the Jesus-myth is wrong does not mean that it is wrong. The historians could be wrong. They could also be biased. Since this subject is dominated by theological agendas and philosophical presuppositions, a scholarly consensus does not constitute evidence for the existence of Jesus."

Notice the rationized statement: "The historians could be wrong."

Yes, and could they also be right?

BoyntonStu

[weishaupt1776]

http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/tacitus.html

[BoyntonStu]

Please give us any and all references to Jesus, his life, his 'miracles', etc. from any contemporary person, scholar, or historian.

Attacking people is not a way of presenting factual information.


BoyntonStu

[weishaupt1776]

Please give the year that history became inaccurate & then designate the year it became accurate again.

Please provide any archeological/historical errors regarding non-supernatural events/people/locations as recorded in the Tanakh and Greek scriptures

Also, what makes Chinese history accurate?

Do you know the textual transmission time from the actual events themselves to the time they were written?

Were they faithfully transmitted from generaqtion to generation?

How do you know?

Is there no such thing as history?

What year did history become innacurate?

When did it resume accuracy again?

Give us a timeline, Stu.

[BoyntonStu]

Originally Posted by BoyntonStu

Please give us any and all references to Jesus, his life, his 'miracles', etc. from any contemporary person, scholar, or historian.


BoyntonStu

A positive premise must be stated.

I have listed 40 contemoraries of the so called 'Jesus" who never heard of him.

Do you have any that do?

You have accepted a concept as fact yet you have zero facts to support your belief.


The silence of the 40 contemporaries is quite loud.


BoyntonStu

[BoyntonStu]

Is it not interesting that Thomas Jefferson arrived at the same conclusion about supernatural myths as I have?


BoyntonStu

[weishaupt1776]

The list you posted is not altogether accurate.

There are citations in their works regarding the name of jesus

http://www.christian-thinktank.com/jesusref.html

http://www.tektonics.org/jesusexist/tacitus.html

Such a one transcends time & space

• Luk 16:19**
  "Now there was a certain rich man, and he was clothed in purple and fine linen, living in luxury every day.
  
  Luk 16:20**
  A certain beggar, named El'azar, was laid at his gate, full of sores,
  
  Luk 16:21**
  and desiring to be fed with the crumbs that fell from the rich man's table. Yes, even the dogs came and licked his sores.
  
  Luk 16:22**
  It happened that the beggar died, and that he was carried away by the angels to Avraham's bosom. The rich man also died, and was buried.
  
  Luk 16:23**
  In She'ol, he lifted up his eyes, being in torment, and saw Avraham far off, and El'azar at his bosom.
  
  Luk 16:24**
  He cried and said, 'Father Avraham, have mercy on me, and send El'azar, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue! For I am in anguish in this flame.'
  
  Luk 16:25**
  "But Avraham said, 'Son, remember that you, in your lifetime, received your good things, and El'azar, in like manner, bad things. But now here he is comforted and you are in anguish.
  
  Luk 16:26**
  Besides all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed, that those who want to pass from here to you are not able, and that none may cross over from there to us.'
  
  Luk 16:27**
  "He said, 'I ask you therefore, father, that you would send him to my father's house;
  
  Luk 16:28**
  for I have five brothers, that he may testify to them, so they won't also come into this place of torment.'
  
  Luk 16:29**
  "But Avraham said to him, 'They have Moshe and the prophets. Let them listen to them.'
  
  Luk 16:30**
  "He said, 'No, father Avraham, but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
  
  Luk 16:31**
  "He said to him, 'If they don't listen to Moshe and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if one rises from the dead.'".

My advice to you stu is to acknowledge , because you have previously copped a guilty plea of being a lying, thieving, blasphemous adulterer at heart(just like every human ever born, besides Yohoshua);
that you are a sinner in the eyes of God.

The Lord suffered the full penalty that you deserved for being a sinner by having the wrath of God taken out on his body on the cross.

His resurrection was proof of his sinlessness in that he didn't have to suffer the penalty of eternal conscious torment as described in Luke 16 above.

Don't become like the rich man, stu, regretting that you never believed and having willingly rejected the truth which could've saved your family from the same punishment