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Old 03-13-2007, 09:39 AM
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Please excuse the spelling of Hillary Clinton's name. It is due to a keyboard with some issues.

Also forgot - If you have a voice, let it be heard.

We need truth and honesty, not lies and empty promises.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:43 AM
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the real 13th Amendment states that no TITLE OF NOBILITY is to hold any public office.

That excludes Hillary and any other attorney running for a public office. DOES IT NOT?
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Old 02-29-2008, 10:07 PM
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13th b4 THEY changed it

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the real 13th Amendment states that no TITLE OF NOBILITY is to hold any public office.

That excludes Hillary and any other attorney running for a public office. DOES IT NOT?


This should clarify this
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:56 PM
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Well, she is still better than incumbent president.
It's the same thing rapped in a different package.
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Old 04-04-2008, 03:23 AM
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not a TOA

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the real 13th Amendment states that no TITLE OF NOBILITY is to hold any public office.

That excludes Hillary and any other attorney running for a public office. DOES IT NOT?

No, because attorney is not a title of nobility. It's not inherited, like a title of nobility is. Whoever started this idea that attorney at law is a title of nobility was a real lunkhead.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:03 PM
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there is nothing noble about attorneys
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Old 04-04-2008, 02:16 PM
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Word definitions..

Title: [OF, title, L titlulus an inscription, label, title, sign, token.] A notice put over, upon, or under anything to distinguish or explain it; That which is inscribed; a document, as a title deed or certificate;

An appellation of dignity, distinction, or preeminence (hereditary or acquired), given to persons by virtue of rank, office, achievement, or privilege, or as a mark of respect. Title may be classified as those of : A. Sovereignty, attached to hereditary rank and office, and grouped as (1) higher- Emperor, Zar Kiser, King Sultan Shah Mikado (2) lower, Grand Duke, Duke, Prince. B. Nobility, attached to hereditary rank irrespective of office, and grouped as (1) Greater – Prince, Duke, Marquis, Count, Earl, Viscount, Baron; (2) Lesser – Baron, Knight, Chevalier, Ritter, Caballero, Esquire , Noble.” Webster’s New International Dictionary 1943

Nobility: [OF from L nobilis that can be or is known, well known, famous, highborn, noble, akin to L noscere to know] Possessing the power of transmitting by inheritance some acknowledged, pre-eminence founded on hereditary succession; of high birth or exalted rank or station, whether inherited or conferred; Quality of possessing characteristics or properties of a very high kind or order; superiority in excellence, value or the like.

ARISTOCRACY: 1. government by the best individuals or by a small privileged class. 3 : a governing body or upper class usually made up an hereditary nobility. 4 : the aggregate of those believed to be superior.

President Andrew Jackson put an end to this second Charter in 1836. Jackson's reasoning was simple: The Constitution does not delegate authority for Congress to establish a national bank. Jackson's rationale has never been seriously challenged, and the Constitution has never been amended to authorize Congress to establish a national bank. Nor, for that matter, does the Constitution delegate authority for the United States to establish corporations, particularly private corporations.

What did Congress do with Andrew Jackson? They impeached him. Is that because Congress is made up mostly of attorneys? Who do the attorneys have a title of nobility to? The Crown of England. So Congress is populated by attorneys who are Esquires or titles of nobility to the Crown of England. So, who does our Congress represent? The Bankers.

The bankers hired an assassin to kill Andrew Jackson using two pistols, however the plot failed as both pistols misfired.

Andrew Jackson violated public international law because he denied the creditor his just lien rights on the debtor. However, the bankers did not lend value (substance), so in actuality they had an unperfected lien so the law actually did not apply.

" Controlling our currency, receiving our public money, and holding thousands of our citizens in dependence . . . would be more formidable and dangerous than a military power of the enemy." - Andrew Jackson


Attorn: To turn or transfer homage and service from one Lord to another; to render homage and service to a Lord.” Webster’s New International Dictionary 1943

Attorney: to transfer. to turn. One who is appointed or admitted in the place of another to transact any business for him.” Webster’s Consolidated Dictionary 1962.

So, An attorney means to transfer homage and service, in our case, from the Republic of our country to the allegiance of the King of England. In our particular case, to the private laws of the Bankers, the IMF, to whom the CORPORATE UNITED STATES owed vast sums of money; and the corporate UNITED STATES went into bankruptcy in 1930.

"Bar Council calls on International Lawyers to counter Global Threats to Rule of Law

2 October 2007

Speaking at a dinner to mark the Opening of the Legal Year on Monday evening, Chairman of the Bar, Geoffrey Vos QC has spoken out about the threats to the rule of law around the world. Vos said that promoting the rule of law is a fundamental instrument for forcing change in undemocratic regimes.

He particularly spoke out about abuses to the rule of law in Zimbabwe and Burma, and called on the international legal community to condemn them.

Welcoming international guests, including the President of the American Bar Association, Bill Neukom, to the annual gathering, Vos spoke of the opportunity to promote the rule of law internationally, particularly through the World Justice Project: "


http://www.barcouncil.org.uk/news/pressarchive/518.html

Keep in mind over in the UK circles we are referred to as:

"America the Commonwealth" and/or
"American Inns of Court"

The Inner Temple Library has massive amounts of information on the UK <-> US relationship.

http://www.innertemplelibrary.org/external.html


Now for those US Attorners out there who will kick and scream at me that there is "no link" and start their dis-credit / mis-information dissertations and personal attacks.. go right ahead. I'm only pointing to the source of the truth. I'm not speculating or republishing someone elses conspiracy theory.

Remember Attorners.. my family is from Scotland originally. Common knowledge over there. I don't know what they teach you folks in law school over here.

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