children services steals infant with no birth certificate

[mrg]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

If the above instruction does not release her baby, then I suggest she relent and teach the baby his name, and educate him about remedy in law - Refusal for Cause.

As the child grows into adulthood and begins to contract, then it will pay off.



Regards,

David Merrill.

If you really care about the baby consider the above.

First things first, GET THE BABY.

"THEY" have the baby, YOU do not.

"THEY" need to hypothecate on the "application" (NOT THE BABY) to fund repayment of THEIR debt, ("and for other purposes").

The longer you delay in getting the baby into the arms and home of the mother, the more adamant these ignorant SHEEP, who are obstructing you, will become, and the more likely it is that the baby will be fed to the beast.

Which do you want more, the baby or the the battle?

At this point, it might be too late.

Above the ignorant hive mentality of the brainwashed sheep who have separated the baby from the mother is first, a CORPORATION, and second, bloodthirsty sub-human flesh with tainted souls possessed by evil.

A corporation has no feelings, heart, soul, spirit, etc., and but one function; exploitation of resources as cheaply and as efficiently as possible in order to maximize mere bottom-line PROFIT as greatly as possible.

It is an automaton.

The bloodthirsty sub-human flesh with tainted souls possessed by evil who are the minions/née "creators" of the CORPORATION are precisely that.

Their hirelings fully believe they depend upon this fiendish apparatus for survival, and, for the most part, know not what IT is.

THEY are in possession of the baby.

If this situation is true, and not a posting of a fiction for purposes of discussion, it may be more humane to consider the well-being of the flesh and blood baby before just one battle in an ongoing war.

[free*to*be*me]

Originally Posted by Shoonra

I know this suggestion will not be welcome but: To get the child back, you have to persuade a judge that you're a good person, level-headed, and, yes, conforming to the approved norms. So instead of some flamboyant, confrontational gesture, I suggest hiring a lawyer who specializes in such domestic cases. It will, in the end, be considerably more efficient than some of the suggestions I've seen on this thread.

Thanks Shoonra.. we already did resort to hiring a Lawer (Liayer) and it did no good, she told us you don't have rights in juvenile courts, not even the right to a jury trial, we can't even move it to common pleas its not allowed, although juvenile is a division of common pleas. When she was in the hearing room it was in front of a magistrate, and she has agreed to what they wanted but she is finding out its a lot more than what they acually said she had to do. They are trying to put her in an inhouse treatment plan, it was originally for 2 months, with the right to have visitors and have the baby with her, after she called the place they instructed , she was told it would be 4 months with 2 hours of visitation on one day a week, see now they want to shut her and the baby out from her family and control her life.

At this point they have done nothing but lie to her and she doesn't trust them at all. She fired the attorney also.

[theghost]

In the interim, is there a grandparent or sibling of the mother that could step in to bring the baby home?

[David Merrill]

Originally Posted by free*to*be*me

David merrill, thank-you for sharing this personal information with me, we are only one year apart in age, she can do the asservation, but the goal is to have them release the baby out of their temporary custody, (JAIL) if we do the asservation, how would we force them into realising the baby? They really don't have "Title" to her baby or so to say "Property as they would think"? What I am looking for and have been searching is some type of filing to the juvinile court to keep it, say private and not get into the public side with this, they have already told her the only way they would release the baby is if she cooperates with their demands, and they are getting very big.

You are right, she wants to keep the baby out of commerce, I have read many times, to keep your child safe from government intervention it would be a no no to apply for a certified birth certificate from the GOV., but they still are holding the flesh and blood baby, without having the certificate.

I just can't find anything that pertains to dealing with these common lawbreakers.

free*to*be*me "trying like hell"

As with the habeas corpus, this situation should not be happening at all. It is an attitude like Shoonra (licensed attorney) has brought to the table that tells the hospital administrators and social-child services that it is worth the risk to kidnap the baby.

As for the habeas corpus, that would be if public safety was not superseding since 1933.

My suggestion is to fill all obligations to report and record the healthy birth of the baby first. That will probably be unsatisfactory to Child Services but the recordation proves that there was in fact a kidnap. Later there may be recourse. Inherent in this process I suggest is an admission that what you are saying is true.

Here is a little history of the bond they wish to establish upon the new state property - the baby - by establishing on the bill of lading (birth certificate) that the hospital has delivered it to the State; rather than Mom to the soil (reality).

“Recognized Government bonds are as safe as Government currency. They have the same credit back of them. And, therefore, if we can persuade people all through the country, when their salary checks come in, to deposit them in new accounts, which will be held in trust and kept in one of the new forms I have mentioned, we shall have made progress.” The Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt; 1933 The Year of Crisis; Random House 1938; page 19. Excerpt from the Address before the Governors’ Conference at the White House. March 6, 1933.

So you see, the whole birth certificate thing is voluntary as Social Security. It is only conditioning and perceptions (delusions) that make things seem worth the risk of kidnap. So Mom should get the baby soon, to be able to raise it to be a responsible merchant marine with all affairs in honest order. The child can be taught remedy to assumed adhesion contracts.

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Regards,

David Merrill.

[Akira-]

Put all events, in an affidavit, naming names, events, ect. (short simple sentences... facts.. not opinion)

include the kidnapping and all other injuries

default all parties...

The unrebutted affidavit stands as truth.

It's always the first step in responding to intrusion by government agents and employees...

There are many here who can show you how.


For HIS Glory,
Akira

[free*to*be*me]

David merrell & mrg, I assure you this is a true event happening right now, It happened in the rainbows baby and childrens hospital in Cleveland, Ohio, They named the baby... baby boy (amos), Mothers last name..this boy is my grandson, fathers side, and they only attempted to place him one time by calling the girls mother, she works during the day, so couldn't reply fast enough before they stole him.

mrg...your post is so to the truth and you're right we have to get physical possession of the baby before its to late. thank-you.

David merrill, We will attempt to do the asservation, if they will allow her by the doctor signing the certificate, see THEY have temp. custody and the hospital may refuse her any information at this point, Do you know where I can obtain such a certificate? I'm thinking the hospital used to give them to the mother upon discharge, but don't know if thats true now. We have to do this monday right away.

My husband and I have been studying our freedom for about 2 years, but we haven't had any ficticious entities come up against us until now, but this is my grandson and I will stay right in the middle for as long as the mother will allow me, see they are not married, that poses a real problem. They are also trying to force him into a paternity test to prove his fatherhood and because we have informed him of much more than her he refuses to do it.

They have also told her the baby has to get a state medical card because she doesn't have insurance, she went in on self pay, and the father stepped forward and said he will pay for the babys medical, but thats not good enough for them, but we will see. This is where they will try to force the application for birth from the state.

I want to thank-you all for your help, please feel free to add anything else.

[free*to*be*me]

Originally Posted by Akira-

Put all events, in an affidavit, naming names, events, ect. (short simple sentences... facts.. not opinion)

include the kidnapping and all other injuries

default all parties...

The unrebutted affidavit stands as truth.

It's always the first step in responding to intrusion by government agents and employees...

There are many here who can show you how.


For HIS Glory,
Akira

Akira, Are you talking about an affidavit of truth? And do we default the children services, the magistrate, and who else? We had already decided to default the personel at the hospital, but didn't want to bring children services into it at this point for fear of not getting the baby back, and if anyone can help with showing me how one is done the correct way I would appreciate it emensly, I think we know, but want to do it the proper way with no mistakes. Example would it be served in their juristic persona name or their true name? Do I attest to the affidavit in my juristic persona or my true name?
Thank-you
Free*to*be*me

[RevokeTheTrust]

with love,
Gregory-Thomas(R);

Greetings and blessings to the holder of "free*to*be*me",
Salutations to the holder of "robhalford88", "mrg" and David Merrill ver/de/la/van/von Pelt.

So... none know why the legislated person would supplant the lord or lady trusted in the county; the
insane have the viccar from their self, not needing another; so the same would invision the soil persuing them
in a court just because an idolator said and did the same.

Certainly, the child is too young to decide what name should be trusted to the state; where property they
attach and hold hither behalf. Just substitute the mother's name for the child, as is coverture a shield offers.
It is sensable for the count or countess to provide coverture, but not many mindfully volunteerl; there is usually
one of those naked-head sherrifs looking to stand as a substitute, and doubtless they offer such coverture to a host preparing for a new charter.
Surely, the mother may be borne again for this good cause to answer for debts that she incurrs for whatever
purpose. Such is love, a good mother gives without expecting any in return from whomever she gives
that sustenence of things measured; to complement the heir of her effort. A fair convention is for
the babe to eventualy profess a name for hold of their property within a year; In time to the first Word
spoken by the babe, unlet the mother to study under the babe that the subconcious grows to its most revealing
traits, whereby then in a crib accompanied by other babes would an affection be revealed to other certain babes
and their Word. Surely, two words would reveal a name of that truth.

I'll rue the Day a mother sends injunction to whomever counterfeit Hospitaliar steals the fruit of her womb, and
a father the broth of his. To steal a babe is to steal the mother. Whoever would sit to this is less than a man,
thereby said de-mon are open season to taste my cutlery and bludgeoning services.

If my child is born after the Gregory Thomas, then so would His son (the Thomas Gregory) be given in that Trust.
Of'course positive mirror of David Merrill is Shoonra, and they'll never advocate the equal exchange of blood to remove the
hands of any creepy things from the bread of the Father's gestated. On same reasoning, I don't see why a babe
would need any services offered elsewhere that weren't given by the mother for the first 9 months.

without prejudice,
M. Gregory Thomas(tm).

PS. Shoonra, I'm afraid it doesn't work that way, dear. You can' do that. :-(

[David Merrill]

It takes a few readings to understand the depth of the wisdom in Brother Gregory's prose. But he is right there with it. I just hope it can be practical.

My suggestion is that you provide all the information to the county, hospital etc. that most people think the Birth Certificate functions with. I think this is part way to Akira's accusation suggestion. However my method is probably much more effective for releasing the baby to Mom.

I assure you this is a true event happening right now, It happened in...

I did not mean to imply you are less than truthful. What I am suggesting is that you provide Information suitable to convince a grand jury this is nothing less than kidnap; or in the alternative, bring the testimony forward on the record (before God?) for what it is worth, that the Birth Certificate is indeed more than what it appears to be.

So provide all the information that a Birth Certificate is commonly known to be good for, lacking the registration of an all upper case entity for instance. Speak the truth, for instance my name is David Merrill. Nothing more.

"David Merrill was born into the Van Pelt family on XXXXX at XXXXXXX a healthy baby boy. His mother Louanne was assisted by Dr. XXXXX and a hospital nurse XXXXX XXXXX ..."

Get signatures of the Dr. and Nurse for witnesses and record that at the county clerk and recorder.

Now if that does not function to acquire the baby, preserve evidence by affidavit of witnesses, any paper responses etc. as to why that information will not work in the place of the standard forms.

Now you have a record that might just convince a jury that you conformed to all the requirements of a birth certificate without committing the child into any kind of fealty or slavery to government bonding and that the action after conforming was kidnapping. Or in the alternative maybe a jury would award a large civil settlement upon convincing them that the obligations on the Birth Certificate are voluntary and Child Services way overstepped administrative authority in keeping the child from Mom.



Regards,

David Merrill.

[free*to*be*me]

Thank-you revokethetrust your words are very much appreciated, bless you in your life ventures.

David Merrill..I have sent you a private message.



Take back your freedom, it was given to you at birth!!!!!

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