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Gisting, I saw something about vacant office.
Return a Bill of Indictment. That is to say, the testimony is so complete that in your opinion, it would be silly to bother convening a jury.
1) find an oath of office signed by the magistrate
2) get a certificate of search that he or she failed to file an oath of office according to the constitutions on that oath
3) attach a quote citation from the constitution proving so.
Do not do this in order to avoid getting a birth certificate for the infant, now a toddler? Get the child by signing all ordered by the vacant office. After she gets the child, she Returns the Bill of Indictment by publishing it at the county clerk and recorder.
Then she raises the child, teaching that the child has no birth certificate. The state cannot tell the child he or she has a birth certificate if the child thinks otherwise. If the child cannot think of any SSN and has no Card to remind him or her of that sequence of #s, he or she cannot possibly have a SSN.
I think you should have followed my advice on this all along. If they ever say that "Judge" So-and-So ordered the child to have all the earmarkings of commerce, just produce a certified copy of the Return and say, "No, I am not compelled to follow void judgments from vacant offices."
Then again, that may be decades down the road when the child is old enough to understand me on his or her own.
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David Merrill.
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02-08-2008, 09:39 AM
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New York Terrorizing Parents Too..
I have many friends in various indepented minded religious groups here that have a long history of living independently and recently the state of New York has been in a rash of terrorism and invading personal property and stealing children that have never been registered with the state. These children were not hospital born, but born at home. Their only recourse to get their children back was to bow to the state's demands. I have a friend who has 8 children and 2 of them have no state birth certificate. The only way he was able to do this was by having them at home and they home school their children (as we all should). It is really getting rough out there in the world of the Matrix. We are considered human capital by the banks and goverenments so they don't want any "un-registered" wealth floating around out there giving anyone any ideas.
I know this doesn't help the original poster, but it seems the only way to keep them off the books is home birth and home schooling. If you choose to birth in a hospital .. they will nab you. And in the case of my Amish friends.. they had always done that and the state kicked in their doors anyway.
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02-09-2008, 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by trooper2ls
I have many friends in various indepented minded religious groups here that have a long history of living independently and recently the state of New York has been in a rash of terrorism and invading personal property and stealing children that have never been registered with the state. These children were not hospital born, but born at home. Their only recourse to get their children back was to bow to the state's demands. I have a friend who has 8 children and 2 of them have no state birth certificate. The only way he was able to do this was by having them at home and they home school their children (as we all should). It is really getting rough out there in the world of the Matrix. We are considered human capital by the banks and goverenments so they don't want any "un-registered" wealth floating around out there giving anyone any ideas.
I know this doesn't help the original poster, but it seems the only way to keep them off the books is home birth and home schooling. If you choose to birth in a hospital .. they will nab you. And in the case of my Amish friends.. they had always done that and the state kicked in their doors anyway.
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I sound like a broken record but...
Here I go again. The remedy for being a chattel bond is written into the Federal Reserve Act itself - §16. This really began in New York with the Patroons of the Dutch East Indies Trading Company claim on The Five Boroughs (New York City). However it manifests strongly through Amendments to the 1917 Trading With the Enemy Act in 1933 and subsequently the Secret Jamaica Rambouillet Accord in 1975-76 formalizing a combinatorial UN Fund in the IMF for forming fictional currency baskets (Special Drawing Rights) - paper gold instead of fixed exchange rates.
All this, stemming from the 1913 Federal Reserve Act is how Americans keep doing this to ourselves. We endorse private credit every time we sign the backside of our paychecks.
You can read the spin that Shoonra is putting on the ratification of Title 31 as positive law for an example. It is Title 31 U.S.C. §5117 that clarifies the Treasury's set rate for US dollars (lawful money) to fine troy ounces of gold.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/releas...1207assets.htm
There is still lawful money, and there is elastic currency. One is rated at $42.22/ounce and the other at $900/ounce. Reconciling that kind of discrepancy is certainly going to be interesting.
Regards,
David Merrill.
P.S. For those unfamiliar with American history Franklin Delano ROOSEVELT was governor of New York prior to becoming president. This was noteworthy enough that the Public Papers and Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt actually start a year prior to him becoming President with a volume dedicated to The Genesis of the New Deal. Which was all happening while he was Governor.
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02-09-2008, 08:08 AM
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Good info.
I will pass this on to my associates. You are absolutly correct. I'm not up to full speed on the "full package" yet as I'm still dabbling in redeemption and trying to position my land and house properly before leaping off the ship forever. I know a few people that lept and had no where to land... and that causes them constant issues.
Great info David.. keep it coming. If you ever decide to visit Niagara .. let me know. I'll introduce you to some of the locals
..J
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02-09-2008, 08:24 AM
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formal chattel mortgage
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Originally Posted by trooper2ls
I will pass this on to my associates. You are absolutly correct. I'm not up to full speed on the "full package" yet as I'm still dabbling in redeemption and trying to position my land and house properly before leaping off the ship forever. I know a few people that lept and had no where to land... and that causes them constant issues.
Great info David.. keep it coming. If you ever decide to visit Niagara .. let me know. I'll introduce you to some of the locals
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Thanks! I am the thirteenth son of Teunis Jansen Laenan VAN PELT - Patroon of Van Pelt Manor there on Manhattan Island. So it will be great to have introductions within the Warren. I trust you all understand the powerful nature of such common law jural societies, even with conditioning overtaking people's thoughts so.
Understanding the Protocols originally drafted doctrine of the Priory of Sion, one can trace the Bloodline history through France and America, the sole parties to formally chattelize people in 1976. The Protocols as a forgery - simply because that doctrine was later forged an accusation against the Jews. With that in mind you and your associates might enjoy this old METRO 1313 article:
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ROchapter1.pdf
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ROchapter2.pdf
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ROchapter3.pdf
Regards,
David Merrill.
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02-25-2008, 08:03 PM
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double post oops
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02-25-2008, 08:19 PM
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I'm in the near same boat. Social Services took my son from the mother while we were separated.She signed the BC but I refused. The court never served notice but I found out recently they served notice by publication. A notice to the man dba agent for state has issued.
The mother tried to jump through the dog hoops of the court to get our son back , alas to no avail.
Contrary to what others have said this is a contract case. Child Custody Cases are "in rem" dealing with title or right of enjoyment of a "thing".
How did the state gain that right?
The presumption the relevant parties are subject to the state's political jurisdiction most be rebutted by oath plain and simple.
The woman mentioned was in a contract with the state because she has identified herself with the state created persona. This persona being a creation of the state is subject to the rules of it's maker. She has not separated her private living being from her color able persona and made a claim of right.
The juvenile courts are not really courts of law. The are administrative like binding arbitration.
I would bet there are no "facts" on record stating anything the judge can act on.
Like some have suggested you need to use you administrative remedy using lawful notice to the judge that he is adjudicating an issue in which no agreement exists to be mediated (between her and the state). If there is no agreement there can be no conflict. She needs to put on the record as fact that she is not identified as her legal fiction and that it is a separate entity. She must state she did not transfer right in the child to anyone including her legal fiction.
I just sent a Notice of adverse possession claim of right and demand with affidavits of sovereignty and negative averment and a conditional acceptance of the offer to appear.
Do not sleep on your rights or you will lose them.
if you want I will post copies of what I sent.
You need to do battle with facts and use silence as a weapon.
Making arguments and assertions in front of the judge while not under oath is a useless exercise. Everything said under oath is a FACT unless contradicted by a competent witness with direct personal knowledge of said fact.
If you proclaim under oath "i never lie" that is the truth till someone with direct knowledge and evidence of you lying contradicts you, under oath.
She has aqueised out of fear. So has my wife.
Do not fear though , this is an administrative court and private administrative remedy is available.
Here's a copy of the notice with privacy considerations of course...
_______ http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dcm8m458_18c85k7rdp
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07-20-2008, 06:59 PM
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indio007,
What became of your case? Did any court ever actually listen to your papers? Have you had any success?
My baby was just taken from me. "Non-violently" because a cop was standing by to make sure I didn't fight against the court order. He was born at home, no birth certificate. My husband and I have no marriage license. To take him into protective custody, DHS used the argument that my other children are in out-of-home care, plus a lot of lies and major distortions of the truth, and was therefore in need of protection from me. I have never been charged with abuse or neglect of my children, and neither has my husband.
My other children are in relative care because it was determined (by the judge in a non-trial) that they were dependent. The reason the state got involved initially was from the wrongful invasion of our home without a warrant. (Story posted elsewhere on this forum) They then dug up long-ago accusations to use as a basis for keeping the children from us.
The older 6 children are mine from a previous marriage. Their father submitted to the dependency and is trying to gain custody now. The youngest was 8 months old at the time, also born at home, no BC.
The SW (social worker) applied for a birth certificate for our son, and then also for a SSN. They couldn't provide "services" without them. Which also shows that they had no right to do anything with him unless he had those numbers. We will deal with that fraud eventually.
The current child taken from me has no name, either, and nobody knows his date of birth (except his father and I). If the state attempts to name the child and register him with a BC and/or SSN, then that will be one more issue of fraud.
Obviously I want my child, and I have every right according to Scripture, the Constitution, and according to the history of the world. But I have no idea where he is, just somewhere out in the foster care world. They will "make arrangements" for me to see him "once a week". He won't remember me as his mother for long that way!
We are refusing to accept any more court-appointed attorneys (liars) because all of the ones we've dealt with have only sold us out and delayed any progress. I will also refuse to sign any of their papers or agree to anything that would be an admission that they have a right to demand things of us. However, we know the courts don't like any of the stuff that is promoted here, because everything we have tried in the past has been outright rejected or completely ignored without a fair reading or hearing.
Obviously we want our son back, but how to do it quickly and permanently is the question. I want my family out from under the thumb of the state(s). I want the way that WORKS, not just what should work.
David, I have spoken with you before on other matters, and I totally respect your depth of knowledge, but honestly I have a really hard time grasping the procedures (and sometimes even the concepts) of what you suggest. I am NOT ignorant, and have a high IQ, but I would appreciate any suggestions, made by ANYONE not just David, to be written in a very simplistic manner. My brain just cannot handle the task of deciphering things right now.
I have a lot of stress to deal with in my life. It has been 18 months with my other 7 children being taken from me, and just barely 4 days since my baby was stolen/kidnapped. I'm sleeping, but only from sheer exhaustion. The only peace I have is knowing that my God is with me and loves me and will somehow get me through these trials. I know how the last chapter reads; I just don't know what's in store for my family before then.
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07-20-2008, 08:29 PM
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I was looking around on Quatloos today and was reminded of something. Many skeptics and critics of remedy feel that I tell the suitors to do many of the things that the suitors do; given that impression by my sharing those anecdotes here. Many of the scenarios are not of my making, I counsel them once they are already involved.
Marksgirl; The process I teach is a Refusal for Cause in the cognizance of the US government set up by a fluff cause Libel of Review. It is for getting out of a contract presentment cleanly. But in the case of child custody, it only works when you have the custody. And that was only one suitor who had the boy here in Colorado with Mom trying to get him back to Canada. Just the same, Mom's attorney was able to jail Dad and send the boy back to Canada for the Holidays for a planned visitation and when the boy was coming back Customs called Dad and said there was a problem...
Dad pointed out the Process we had put in place and Customs flew the boy back to Dad.
I am at a loss, especially over the Internet to be able to figure out how R4C process is going to regain your infant back into your custody now that they have kidnapped him (her?) for not having a legal identity.
I suggest a $39 case jacket calling for whoever is responsible's arrest. Certificate of Exigent Circumstances attached.
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07-21-2008, 01:08 AM
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They aren't claiming that the reason he needed to be in immediate protective custody was for non-naming and non-registration, though they tried to tell me I was in violation of some statute for not reporting the birth within 5 days. That was only a verbal statement, nothing in writing. They're basically claiming that my husband and I are bad parents (neglect, sex abuse...neither is true!) and that's why my other children are in state custody, so "obviously" this child is in danger, too. They stated I had "previously fled with my other children in similar circumstances." I've never been in similar circumstances, and I've never fled with my children anywhere at any time. There's a lot of crap we'll have to rebut and deal with at a trial if we can't get him back before then (whenever it is). We were wondering about a habeas corpus, or if we'll be stuck doing their administrative procedure that totally strips us of our parental rights without a conviction and without even a real accusation.
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