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Old 02-17-2008, 02:59 PM
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I'm thinking about having some (family) seals made up in what I would hope would be my "true" name, as well as starting to draw up some legal documents in that "true" name. My question is (using my name as an example) the format of the "true" name I've seen most commonly would be:

Paul Joseph; Sholtz

Yet, to my way of thinking, it "feels" more natural to write something like:

Paul Joseph; House of Sholtz

or

Paul Joseph, House of Sholtz

Is there a reason for the semicolon in the true name? Should the format of "John James; Doe" be preferred over the others I've presented here?
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:06 PM
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at least with "John of the family DOE" or similar, the distinction is more clear- clerks may ignore punctuation marks.

John of House DOE

John son of Richard House of DOE

etc
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:09 PM
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Bills of Exchange Act
PART II: BILLS OF EXCHANGE
Acceptance

Acceptance


34. (1) The acceptance of a bill is the signification by the drawee of his assent to the order of the drawer.

Drawees name wrong


(2) Where in a bill the drawee is wrongly designated or his name is misspelt, he may accept the bill as therein described, adding, if he thinks fit, his proper signature or he may accept by his proper signature.

R.S., c. B-5, s. 35.


Bills of Exchange Act
PART II: BILLS OF EXCHANGE
Liabilities of Parties

Trade-name or assumed name


131. (1) Where a person signs a bill in a trade-name or assumed name, he is liable thereon as if he had signed it in his own name.

Firm name


(2) The signature of the name of a firm is equivalent to the signature, by the person so signing, of the names of all persons liable as partners in that firm.

R.S., c. B-5, s. 132.
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Old 02-17-2008, 03:31 PM
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at least with "John of the family DOE" or similar, the distinction is more clear- clerks may ignore punctuation marks.
Yes, that's what I'm thinking as well..

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John of House DOE

John son of Richard House of DOE

etc
Is there a reason you're capitalizing the surname?
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:04 PM
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maybe a wrong reason; it is a style to show the FAMILY name is distinct from a given name. A "House" or Family is a kind of corporation, "the JONES's", "we JONES have for many years been..." has corporate attributes- extra longevity, multiple responsibility, varied interests and holders. It's more abstract than the simple name of one.

But style and punctuation are not paramount, so we need to be careful. The difference is on the LEGAL NAME vs the True Name.
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Old 02-17-2008, 04:29 PM
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The following information is taken from the website www.embassyofheaven.com . It is intended for your spiritual growth and not to be used as or in any way related to legalism and secular law manipulations.

"Subjects register with their lord
One of the principal sources of Caesars authority is registration and licenses. The word license has its roots in the Latin word licit, which means "legal or permitted." The opposite of licit is illicit.
The current use of registering and licensing goes back to the days of the Roman Empire. Rome discovered she could make her conquered people submit to her authority in almost every sphere of life. Conquered people would fight in Romes army and pay Roman taxes. But Rome had one stumbling block - she could not force the people to desert their religion and worship Roman deities.
Rome devised an ingenious plan to overcome this problem so that she could be sovereign - even over the religion of her conquered people. She started licensing religion. Rome declared her generosity and tolerance of all religions. She allowed the people to worship any god they chose and in any manner they desired. The people could raise their children according to the customs of their religion. They could even evangelize. All these privileges belonged to the people with one "minor" requirement: they must first obtain a license from the Roman government. Through this registration procedure, their religion became a licit religion under the sovereignty of the Roman Empire.
Judaism, for instance, was a "licensed religion" with special privileges. Jews could freely practice their religious customs and were exempt from participating in the Emperors cult. Christianity, however, soon became an "illegal religion" because they would not meet the requirement to register with Caesar.
The principle behind the Christians refusal to register or obtain a license from Caesar is that the lesser authority never licenses the greater authority. For a Christian to acknowledge that they must seek Caesars approval, Caesars license, would be to acknowledge Caesars authority and lordship over them. And that was exactly Romes intent. Their licensing scheme was designed to make Caesar lord over every sphere of life. Early Christians refused Caesars licensing programs, not just with words, but with their very lives, proclaiming that Jesus Christ, not Caesar, is Lord.
To register anything, including a name, with Caesar, is to acknowledge the lordship of Caesar. Since Jesus is our Lord, we should be registering with God, not Caesar.

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When we study the early Church, we see Christs followers renouncing their former allegiance to the state and giving their loyalty to the living Kingdom of Jesus. They refused to register with Caesar and had nothing that belonged to Caesar. Therefore, they did not obligate themselves to render back to Caesar.
One little thing we can do that is a thorn in Caesars side, is to forsake our state name and obtain a name from Heaven. Our new name is created by God, not the state. Therefore, we are obligated to render back to God that which is His.
We only have an obligation to obey Caesar when we are one with Caesar. If we belong to Another, it is none of Caesars business what our name is.

What is wrong with my name?
And in covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you. 2 Peter 2:3
For the last few generations, parents have been going to the state to have the name of their baby registered. After paying the state their tribute money, a birth certificate is issued which entitles this young child to state privileges and benefits. What the parents do not realize is that in the act of obtaining a birth certificate, they are giving the state authority to make their child of God, a child of the state.
How is this possible? There is a basic principle of law that states, "what one creates, one controls." If your parents registered your name through a birth certificate, then the state created your name. If they created your name, then they also gained the power to control the body attached to that name.
Through the birth certificate, the state has its first opportunity to offer you privileges. But along with these benefits, comes the burden of complying with their volumes and volumes of rules and regulations. Why? Because they claim you as one of theirs.
A few generations ago, when people worshiped Jesus Christ as King, parents dedicated their newborn child to God. The birth was recorded in the family Bible. Parents acknowledged that their child was a gift from God and were committed to raising the child according to the commands of Christ.
Today, a new procedure has supplanted the dedication of newborns to God. Parents dedicate their children to the state through the birth certificate procedure. Because they fear what men will do to them, they raise their child according to the dictates of the state. Yes, this is idolatry - twentieth century style. For they worship and serve the created thing (the state), rather than the Creator.3

3 - Romans 1:25
New name separates us from old life
Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 2 Corinthians 5:17
Anyone seriously contemplating a name change should realize he is changing far more than just his name. To some extent he is altering his personality. A name can be a boost or an obstacle. A "Seymour Schlumpf" who has always hated his name and felt defensive about it might feel better if he changes his name to Steve Brown. If your new name helps you feel better, your behavior may also improve. For us, it is an opportunity to repent of the past and sin no more.
Once your name is registered as a child of the state, they have an interest in controlling the body attached to the name. The state uses your name to do business with you. They are your governors and tutors until the time appointed by the Father. You are enslaved to the basic principles of the world and subject to mens codes.4
Once you are reborn in Christ, you are no longer enslaved to men. You are free to use any name you choose. You do not have to continue using your state name. This may confuse state record keepers, but there is nothing illegal about using a name not sanctioned by the state. You may receive a new name as a gift from God.
When we are reborn in Christ, our new name separates us from our old life of bondage. As the Spirit works within us, the old man is mortified and vitality is given to the new man. The old life, the old ways, the old ties, die. We dont want to use a name that identifies an oppressed and weary sinner. Weve been set free. We want a new name that identifies the new man redeemed by Jesus Christ.
When you change to a new name, your obligations dont just disappear. You need to systematically prove all things, keeping those things that are Godly and closing out those things that are not.

4 - Galatians 4:2-3


State name defiled
In todays world most of us had our name defiled when our parents registered us with the state through a birth certificate. The birth certificate made us eligible to receive benefits and privileges as a child of the state. But the state name did something else - it bound us to the world system. Our very own name became the handle the state uses to control us. Later, we further defiled our names by seeking out state privileges - licenses, social security numbers, voter registrations. We also used our state name to purchase insurance policies to limit our liability. We used our state name to establish a credit rating so that we could obtain loans for the things we coveted. In doing so, we entered into compacts with death, making a lie our refuge. We looked to the state for our protection, but it was unable to save us.5
Lets say one day you wake up and realize you have swallowed Satans lie. You are completely strapped into the beast system. The money changers and the civil government have enslaved you. You dont want to be a slave to the bankers. You dont want to be governed by the will of the people. You dont want the legislature to be your conscience. You want to be self-governing under God. You have been one with them, but you are seeking a better country, whose builder and maker is God.6 You seek the light and easy burdens of Christs government. But how do you get out from under a system that has entrapped you from birth?

5 - See Isaiah 28:14-22
6 - Hebrews 11:10, 15, 16"

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This group promotes the use of a Great Seal;
http://embark.to/sovereign-without-subject

On the site click on Documents and then scroll down to Seals for examples. The number in the center of some of the examples is a birth year from the Hebrew calendar.
A Great Seal is to have the same effect as a notary or two witnesses.

Attached is a generic Common Law Abatement using one's Great Seal and a seal of a de jure judicial district.
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your name, Your Name, Your NAME, YOUR NAME!

Well, I think this will change the way you view the spelling of your name. Please read the PDF file about your status with any capital letters in your name.
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We've been through this on another thread.

In the pdf document you present, all the parenthetical recomarks about "use of capitalization" are not from Black's Law Dictionary or any other law dictionary; they are pure invention and total hogwash.

The courts have repeatedly knocked down theories about the effect of using all-caps for someone's name.
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We've been through this on another thread.

In the pdf document you present, all the parenthetical recomarks about "use of capitalization" are not from Black's Law Dictionary or any other law dictionary; they are pure invention and total hogwash.

The courts have repeatedly knocked down theories about the effect of using all-caps for someone's name.


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