family court..

[netwrkranger]

Wise words as always from the more senior members of this forum.

- netwrkranger

[netwrkranger]

It is my understanding that there is an increasingly growing group of individuals who cannot, due to finances, or will not, due to principles, utilize the services of an attorney.

So much so, that mainstream media is beginning to write articles concerning the issue. I will presume the BAR and judicial officials are writing more booklets on handling pro se defendants.

Win at all costs: http://www.post-gazette.com/win/
Justice Disrobed: http://www.thefloridabar.us/
Revolting Judges: http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink...judges_03a.htm
Eliminating the Pro Se litigant: http://www.northcountrygazette.org/a...Litigants.html
Unbundling Legal Services for Pro Se litigants: http://louisvilledivorce.typepad.com...ling_lega.html


More often than can be counted, numerous members have provided abundant evidence that the Courts and BAR association have conflicting interests in regards to their coffers and re-presenting their clients. Their first duty is to the courts. Second is to the BAR. You, as a client, are actually third or fourth on the totem pole. You don't have to take my word for it. Check out Am. Jur. for details. Are you a ward of the court?

This one is interesting:
Pro se divorce litigants are frustrating the traditional role of the trial court judge and court personnel: http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi...2004.tb01331.x

This one is interesting too:
Florida my restore rule of law: http://www.libertysentinel.org/artic...FloridaJudges2

If memory serves me correctly, I believe New York and New Jersey were suffering from the problem of judges not filing their oath of office with the Secretary of State (not obeying their own rules).

I am of the mind that people pay attornies out of the fear of losing something of value.

If you have nothing to lose, you have everything to gain.

- netwrkranger

[mrg]

Originally Posted by netwrkranger

Wise words as always from the more senior members of this forum.

- netwrkranger

THIS has a lot of resources in it, but it is in sore need of updating and fixing.

Unfortunately, for whatever reason, the site has bugs in it that will not let me update the article AT ALL, and still keep it intact all in one place.

Originally the Articles and News forum was the only forum with no word limit on individual posts, and was started so that people would not have to spread a long research across 4-6 separate entries.

Now there is, for some reason, (I have my suspicions as to that reason), the same word limit on that forum, as is on all the others.

This prevents me from doing any much needed editing within the article, because, once edited, the site software will not let me save the edit because it exceeds the word count limit.

[netwrkranger]

What is an attorney?

An attorney is an ADVISER. You pay them for their advice. The quality of that advice is variable due to education, years of experience, etc. You are in fact divesting to them a portion of your power of attorney in which to handle your legal affairs (The principal - agent relationship is the derivative of the master - slave relationship under the Law of Persons). In return, they (supposedly) work to uphold your interests and rights. The consideration for this transaction is the rate per hour you pay for their services.

They offer their advice with no guarantees of its validity or quality meaning there is no penalty for whatever they choose to divulge or do (or not divulge and not do) on your behalf or to you (for kicks, ask an attorney to sign anything under penalty of perjury). If they won't stand behind the advice they issue, why accept it? If there is no penalties for faulty advice, they can tell you anything.

In part, they do this because they have no idea how a particular judge will rule on any given suit. You could think of the case law as advice in some respects as well (example: Erie Railroad v. Thompkins i.e. Erie Doctrine). Why do you think courts issue their rulings in part as "... it is the opinion of this court.... "? That opinion could be overturned by a superior court, legislature, or the People.

When you step into a court with an attorney, you enter into the guardian - ward relationship (Law of Persons). You have taken the officers of the court (attorneys and judges) to be the guardian of your interests. The attorney is an officer of the court first and your attorney second.

In the words of George Gordon, "The judge is paid by the State. The prosecuting attorney is paid by the State. The defense attorney is paid by the State..... my God.... and you call this a fair trial ?!?!?!"

ROFL..... Oh yeah, don't forget they are all BAR member associates as well.

- netwrkranger

[Dillon Hunt]

Originally Posted by Lawdog

Bottom line...if you think your wife is wrongly spending money meant for child support on herself instead, BRING THAT TO THE COURT'S ATTENTION. But don't play bull***t games with the system. That's doubly dangerous for a government employee (Police Officer) like yourself, because it could get you in trouble with your boss.

I believe at will employment means: when one is not on the clock, one is not acting as an employee.

I don't think he was wearing a gun and badge in court. Of course that could help him!

Do ya think?

Humbly, JS

[netwrkranger]

Check out George Gordon's archived radio shows on the doctrine of Parens Patriae, particularly show 2 of 7.

He speaks in part on the doctrine of Parens Patriae and the Guardian - Ward relationship. The aforementioned relationship is a TRUST relationship. He says when you register for a birth certificate and marriage license, you divest yourself of property rights for guardianship.

The marriage license is a 3 party limited general partnership between the man, woman, and State. Basically, you have appointed the State as conservator over your marriage.

The same with hiring a lawyer. You have appointed the attorney as conservator of your affairs. The court then becomes the superior guardian and the attorney (conservator) a mere officer of that court.

Conservator

A conservator is someone appointed by a court to manage the affairs or estate of a person (called the conservatee) who is deemed incapable due to reasons such as age or mental limitations. A conservator is similar to a guardian, though in some states is limited to managing financial affairs as opposed to decisions such as medical care.

Source: en.wikipedia.org

He pulls much of his information from the legal encyclopedia American Jurisprudence. I will have to research more into that encyclopedia. I imagine it will reveal some VERY interesting information concerning the birth certificate and its service.

Regards,
netwrkranger