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God Bless your lovely wife, Hope all turns out well, I wished I lived closer I'd help, forget the B.C and SS# for now concentrate on a healthy baby.
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08-05-2008, 09:54 AM
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Hi MRG-
It seems to me that for the state to prevent you from hiring a midwife, they would have to know your plans beforehand, know when the baby was due, and be able to keep you from bringing someone into your private dwelling. It seems very unlikely that they could know these things, or even find out after the fact, unless the parents volunteered the information.
Just do it anyway!
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From what I have gathered it does not seem to be illegal, but regulations make it difficult if not impossible to have the assistance of a midwife at home without the midwife having to leap through a series of "legalistic" hoops.
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08-15-2008, 07:18 PM
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Be careful!
I have a good friend...her first child was delivered by C-section due to delivery delay, and she wanted her second child delivered naturally. The same thing happened with the 2nd child and the hospital administered a drug which would cause delivery, but they adminstered it at 4 times the maximum dosage. The result was that my friend had another C-section, suffered a major hemmorage and almost died and the child almost died as well by suffocation due to the hemmorage. She is now unable to have any more children.
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08-15-2008, 10:36 PM
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Before you started off on this did you bother to actually check and find out what the laws were regarding home child birth and midwifery??? Did you actually talk to some one about it before making your decisions?
You might try checking out these listings, and I am sure there are a good deal more, you might just try stopping in at the local real health food store and see what you can find or just ask some questions.
http://www.askyourmidwife.com/
http://newyorkmidwives.net/
That being said, just how bloody stupid are you? Your wife had a c-section with her first birth, did not some one, somewhere along the way tell you, that the likelihood of her ever being able to have a normal child birth, let alone safely deliver afterward is like none and zero? The fact that she has had a c-section means that the muscles and tissues that are necessary for a safe delivery have been damaged, and possibly permanently damaged. It is an almost dead certainty that there will be complications, and by that I mean life threatening complications, if she attempts a natural birth. I will hope, for her sake, that I am wrong, but in my experience, it seldom happens. The fact that she has had a c-section means that the likelihood of complications in succeeding births is exponential, and something that needs to be taken very seriously. You really need to speak to competent medical practitioners and then make your decision based on not only informed consent, but on informed patient. I have no problem with home birth or midwifery, but I do have one with willful ignorance. Think a little more about your wife, and a good deal less about your ego.
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08-16-2008, 07:04 AM
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Hi MRG-
It seems to me that for the state to prevent you from hiring a midwife, they would have to know your plans beforehand, know when the baby was due, and be able to keep you from bringing someone into your private dwelling.
It seems very unlikely that they could know these things, or even find out after the fact, unless the parents volunteered the information.
Just do it anyway!
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The problem would seem to be the reluctance of a midwife to assist a completely private birth out of fear of the state regulations.
Midwifes (wives?) are over-regulated, as is everything else, so the state, through oppressive over-regulation, has already interfered even if the parents themselves can prevent the state from knowing their intentions beforehand.
One would have to find a midwife willing to defy regulations, and agree to secrecy, both before and after.
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08-16-2008, 10:09 AM
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it can be done
I apologize for I do not mean to sidetrack the thread here, but I must be one of the "lucky one in a million". My first born was delivered c-section for he was in breach position. My second born was delivered ******lly, no medicine administered what so ever, and no complications what so ever. Now this may be because between pregnancies there was a 7 year time period, so maybe my muscles, etc. had healed enough. Anyways, it worked for me!
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08-16-2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent
Before you started off on this did you bother to actually check and find out what the laws were regarding home child birth and midwifery??? Did you actually talk to some one about it before making your decisions?
You might try checking out these listings, and I am sure there are a good deal more, you might just try stopping in at the local real health food store and see what you can find or just ask some questions.
http://www.askyourmidwife.com/
http://newyorkmidwives.net/
That being said, just how bloody stupid are you? Your wife had a c-section with her first birth, did not some one, somewhere along the way tell you, that the likelihood of her ever being able to have a normal child birth, let alone safely deliver afterward is like none and zero? The fact that she has had a c-section means that the muscles and tissues that are necessary for a safe delivery have been damaged, and possibly permanently damaged. It is an almost dead certainty that there will be complications, and by that I mean life threatening complications, if she attempts a natural birth. I will hope, for her sake, that I am wrong, but in my experience, it seldom happens. The fact that she has had a c-section means that the likelihood of complications in succeeding births is exponential, and something that needs to be taken very seriously. You really need to speak to competent medical practitioners and then make your decision based on not only informed consent, but on informed patient. I have no problem with home birth or midwifery, but I do have one with willful ignorance. Think a little more about your wife, and a good deal less about your ego.
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While I usually hate agreeing with lawyers, in this case it is a must. ND has made some excellent points, you NEED to get PROFESSIONAL advice on whether or not it is SAFE for your wife to have a home birth. Please understand that NOTHING and I mean NOTHING, is more important than the HEALTH AND SAFETY OF YOUR WIFE AND UNBORN CHILD!!! Go and see a doctor! please! Thanks,
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08-16-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Held in Default
Yet that which is "applicable" you still have not proved.
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And none of what many claim as "law" has been "proven" to actually be any law.
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08-21-2008, 09:51 PM
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Notorial Dissent
That being said, just how bloody stupid are you? Your wife had a c-section with her first birth, did not some one, somewhere along the way tell you, that the likelihood of her ever being able to have a normal child birth, let alone safely deliver afterward is like none and zero? The fact that she has had a c-section means that the muscles and tissues that are necessary for a safe delivery have been damaged, and possibly permanently damaged. It is an almost dead certainty that there will be complications, and by that I mean life threatening complications, if she attempts a natural birth. I will hope, for her sake, that I am wrong, but in my experience, it seldom happens. The fact that she has had a c-section means that the likelihood of complications in succeeding births is exponential, and something that needs to be taken very seriously. You really need to speak to competent medical practitioners and then make your decision based on not only informed consent, but on informed patient. I have no problem with home birth or midwifery, but I do have one with willful ignorance. Think a little more about your wife, and a good deal less about your ego.
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Call me stupid again and I will **** you up for real! You have no clue who I am or what I know. Have you done any reading whatsoever? Why dont you educate yourself on women having natural child birth after they had a Csection. The only reason they have to have a Csection is due to all the drugs and "help" that you get in the hospital. The chance of uteran rupture is less then 1%. Visit unnassistedchildbirth.com and read read read you ****ing idiot. I will give you my address if you want to come and talk to me about it in person. You already have my full name cause I'm not scared and have nothing to hide unlike you hiding behind your "handle". So go ahead and go to the hospital for your Csection for your childs birth and while your at it, give your child all the vacinations they offer so you will suffer a lifetime of misery dealing with autism or some other adverse effect of shots!! But I guess you believe in everything you hear so just go take orders! If you want to come and visit me personally just lemme know and I will ensure that we can make that happen!!
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