Totaly Lost Going To Jail

Henry Bowman is correct take your letter and write across it slanted across the top Accepted for Value and returned for reconsideration. add your ein number which is you ss number written as 21-4561234 and sign your name add a money order of what you can afford each month. After ten days send in account closed if you have heard nothing from them and just pay your ex the way you can and what works for the both of you. The state gets involved due to there funds they get that match what you pay so it means big bucks for them in the long run. I would double check the way I worded it but it is something like that. Look at Bowman's link he added earlier. You can also check with me I have one I did for a creditor and it worked. That way you are in total honor and it is a contract. If you need a copy of one I can send you one I have and did and use do the same on yours. Just email me privately so I can send it privately to you.

the time to use your statuts is before you enter their jurisdiction, before anything is said you must ask the questions and give the answers where they dont. having been there done that...

if you try all the other advice and should it not work, and you feel you are about to go to jail try this.

when you are in court, anytimebefore judgement is passed will do say this:
i revoke all powers of attorney both expressed and implyed to the judge. dont make a motion to the same but you need to put it in writting to have it in the case files as well. IF they ask you what you mean, tell them its a revocation for cause. if asked (only if asked) tell them of the ****ups they have made against you then get up and SLOWLY walk out. if they dont ask say nothing!!! if they try to stop you from walkin out, stop dont move from where you are and (they shouldnt but might try to call your bluff) say if i need to i will apply the remedy! say nothing turn and walk again.

yes i have done this. this part is for you to know, now what you just did was strip the judge of all power over you and if they make any move against you from this point on you are in position to sue them. there is more to it to be sure but for now its all i have to offer. keep it simple and after you say it shut the hell up!!! no ramblin no addin on to it no nothin.

[Shoonra]

For federal judges: As they had to be nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate, there would be plenty of documentation in the Congressional Record, and a hearing printed by the Senate Judiciary Committee. This should be a much better source than FOIA (especially since personnel records are immune to FOIAs). There may even have been a special swearing-in ceremony held at the judge's court when he arrived, and somebody might have a transcript or tape of it.

[futop]

Hey str8razor,

Your post sounds very similar to this...

http://www.wealth4freedom.com/law/allocution.htm

I have heard of successes using this from guests on John Bryants Liberty forum webcast.

If your going to ask find out what artical court you are in then find out which oath the man or woman took that takes jurisdiction away. Then you have time to void judgments on lack of jurisdiction,wrong oath of office,and wrong court .

[dadmoonbunny]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Simply adjust the payment amounts. If you refuse to contract they will call that contempt.

In other words since you are willing to just lie down and go to jail, agree verbally to whatever the attorney in the black robe says. Then they will draw up the contract. Read it carefully and cross out "$430 dollars per month" and put in "$150 dollars per month"; something that will not get you into arrears in the future. Or even "$40 per month". Whatever.

Strike through agreements you do not like. As you say, these are new contracts. They will assert that what they say is the law (what you agreed to verbally is law). If that were so, then why would they be having you sign the contract?

I am certain that they will take you back before the "Judge" because you are being a pain. So just agree again to whatever and then when they put that contract in front of you alter and strike through offensive verbiage. The point really being that you are being badgered into a contract that you do not like the terms of and that is basically unfair.

I am giving you this advice as an alternative to just getting carted off to jail for contempt. You may as well expose your "contempt" as contempt toward being railroaded into unconscionable contracts. That is actually their contempt toward the longstanding terms, customs and usages of commercial contract law.


Regards,

David Merrill.

I would suggest, with respect to David, that over your signature on the contract and ALL SUCH PAPERWORK that you add "Signed under duress".
By the way, Sui Juris is a latin term meaning (loosely) My Own Master. meaning you acknowledge no master but the creator.

[Shoonra]

Since it looks like you're facing very real trouble, I am going to suggest something odd for this forum: Get yourself a real lawyer, preferably one with a track record in family law court.

You're eagerness to avoid hiring a pro and doing this as an amateur has made a bad situation worse. I think you would have been better off consulting a lawyer from the start, he might have been able to lower your child support obligations, and now, at the bitter end, he might at least keep you out of the slammer.

Some of the advice I've seen on this thread makes me cringe. When you're facing jail, spend the money on a real lawyer. If you must save on professional fees, then opt for amateurs when it comes to getting surgery.

[meme62]

Originally Posted by faithchris

Henry Bowman is correct take your letter and write across it slanted across the top Accepted for Value and returned for reconsideration. add your ein number which is you ss number written as 21-4561234 and sign your name add a money order of what you can afford each month. After ten days send in account closed if you have heard nothing from them and just pay your ex the way you can and what works for the both of you. The state gets involved due to there funds they get that match what you pay so it means big bucks for them in the long run. I would double check the way I worded it but it is something like that. Look at Bowman's link he added earlier. You can also check with me I have one I did for a creditor and it worked. That way you are in total honor and it is a contract. If you need a copy of one I can send you one I have and did and use do the same on yours. Just email me privately so I can send it privately to you.

Here is the thread I was referring to unable to make private hope not a problem. Thanks for your input

[idknow]

Originally Posted by David Merrill

Simply adjust the payment amounts. If you refuse to contract they will call that contempt.

In other words since you are willing to just lie down and go to jail, agree verbally to whatever the attorney in the black robe says. Then they will draw up the contract. Read it carefully and cross out "$430 dollars per month" and put in "$150 dollars per month"; something that will not get you into arrears in the future. Or even "$40 per month". Whatever.

Strike through agreements you do not like. As you say, these are new contracts. They will assert that what they say is the law (what you agreed to verbally is law). If that were so, then why would they be having you sign the contract?

I am certain that they will take you back before the "Judge" because you are being a pain. So just agree again to whatever and then when they put that contract in front of you alter and strike through offensive verbiage. The point really being that you are being badgered into a contract that you do not like the terms of and that is basically unfair.

I am giving you this advice as an alternative to just getting carted off to jail for contempt. You may as well expose your "contempt" as contempt toward being railroaded into unconscionable contracts. That is actually their contempt toward the longstanding terms, customs and usages of commercial contract law.


Regards,

David Merrill.

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re hi, hullew and Greetings from our heavenly father, his risen son Jesus and me.

contracts that are forced upon us without the possibility are called ``contracts of adhesion'' and it is settle court "law"/opinion that the court will not enforce them!

a signed document is not a contract if one of more of (full disclosure, liberty of mind (free will), and meeting of the minds to agree to ALL terms) are misssing.

So the advice given above to read very carefully is quite goodly, and if the "court" objects then say "your honor, you cannot force me to agree to these stipulations, clauses or consequences without full disclosure, my right to refuse to contract and free will!"

Or you can say "your honor, if you force me to sign this then I will first object on the grounds that this is a contract of adhesion and I shall appeal to another court to have the contract nullifed.


My best other suggestion is to search the forum here for "court" for relevent threads to assimilate.

my prayers and hope are with you.