10-17-2005, 01:03 PM
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Child Custody And The Ucc
I Recently Posted A Similar Thread In The Court Forum But I Thought There Might Be Some New Insight From This Group. I Was Recently Told That Filing A Ucc3 For My Son Will Give Me Complete Control Over Him. I Have Been Told That The Ucc3 Will Be Stronger Than The Custody Papers. Does Anyone In Here Know What I Am Being Told To Be True? Any Information Will Be Greatly Appreciated.
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10-17-2005, 03:24 PM
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Practice Makes Perfect
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Who told you that? Can they point you to any d***ented success stories?
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10-17-2005, 06:06 PM
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The Man Who Signed Me Up For The Ucc Filed A Ucc3 On His Grand Child And How Has Custody Of Him. To Me It Doesnt Make Much Sense
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10-18-2005, 01:11 PM
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jjc_is_me,
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Originally Posted by jjc_is_me
Filing A Ucc3 For My Son Will Give Me Complete Control Over Him. I Have Been Told That The Ucc3 Will Be Stronger Than The Custody Papers
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I investigated the possiblility of such an approach some 2 years ago, but never did pursue it.
Please invite your friend to Sui Juris, that he might share his techniques, and sUCCesses, for the benefit of all.
If privacy is an issue, he might consider sharing his info, with just a few folks here, so that they, in turn, might teach others.
He can PM or email me directly, if he would like...
For HIS Glory,
Akira
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Last edited by Akira : 10-18-2005 at 01:15 PM.
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10-18-2005, 06:37 PM
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Positively, absolutely, this is a rip-off.
The Uniform Commercial Code deals, as its title suggests, with commercial transactions. The custody of a child is not a commercial transaction.
The custody decisions by a court are governed by only one standard: "the best interests of the child". This may include a great many factors that might not seem very important to one or more of the individuals involved in the case, such as the lifestyle and free time of the prospective parent, the features of the parent's home and hometown (including available schools), and the particular needs and characteristics of the child in question.
Trying this UCC stunt will not only be ineffective, it might persuade the judge that you are not sensible enough to care for a child.
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10-18-2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
The custody decisions by a court are governed by only one standard: "the best interests of the child".
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ROFLMAO!!!!
This is the funniest piece of propaganda I have read by any poster.
My side is splitting!
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10-18-2005, 10:00 PM
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Family law courts are equity courts - the UCC is irrelevant. Marriage is a contract between a man and woman - regardless if they entered into it with the state via a marriage license or without the state in a common law marriage.
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10-19-2005, 05:20 AM
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Well To Tell You The Truth I Dont Know What To Believe. On One Hand I Am Being Told That The Ucc Filing Is Such A Wonderful Thing And On The Other Hand It Seems Like It's Really Kind Of Useless. I Dont Know Which To Believe.
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10-19-2005, 06:01 AM
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The UCC is a system on how to conduct business in commerce, which each State has adopted. It doesn't have anything to do with a private contractual agreement, such as a marriage.
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10-19-2005, 06:15 AM
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The Outta Commissiona
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Originally Posted by jjc_is_me
I Recently Posted A Similar Thread In The Court Forum But I Thought There Might Be Some New Insight From This Group. I Was Recently Told That Filing A Ucc3 For My Son Will Give Me Complete Control Over Him. I Have Been Told That The Ucc3 Will Be Stronger Than The Custody Papers. Does Anyone In Here Know What I Am Being Told To Be True? Any Information Will Be Greatly Appreciated.
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Cancel contrcts for legal cause, ab initio
(look that up yourself on google)
The contracts ae your marriage license, voters registration, and birht ertificate
AND THEN
Your child's BC
The governmental system in each state was lawful pre-14th Amdmnt in that they were self-governing, free of any interference from DC with a few legitimate exceptions
The 14th Amdmt created a new "Federal citizenship" called U.S. citizenship
Prior to that, there were only State Nationals, in that they were considered to be New Jersians or Floridians as if from a different country
Licenses, BC's, SS#'s, car reg, receiving mail at your house are all U.S. Citizen adhesion contracts which force the presumption that you or anyone else is a Federal Citizen and thus property of DC
To rebut this, drastic measures should be taken to correct your Nationality FROM U.S. Citizen to that of your respective state.
This means, your name can't be on your car reg, no DL, no bank account/credit card, no BC, no DL, no marriage lic, no mail at your house, etc. . .
The UCC thing relies on a commercial concept of "acceptance for value"
If you do that, you are accepting all of that stuff, rather than rejecting it.
I am more comfrtable rejecting it.
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