Father's Rights...are there any?

[summergarden]

What happens when a guy has been cleaned out by the little lady of the house. Say they've recently separated. He's wiped out over $40, 000. 00 of credit card debt that she incurred because he's a nice guy and he wanted to give her a clean start. The money he paid it all off with, came from a disability settlement because he's unable to work?

In fact they've been living in the house for years, rent free, that his family owns.

He buy's a year supply of fuel for the house. The check he gave came from a separate checking account he opened in his name because he knows they are splitting.

Knowing that he just paid a couple thousand dollars for fuel in advance for the house, she calls up the company and cancells the fuel delivery. She intercepts the refund check, and takes it to another state, forges her estranged husbands name to the refund check and deposits it into a branch bank account that was still on both their names, and withdraws the funds, leaving about $10.00 in the account.

Weeks later, she takes the children and leaves. He doesn't know about the fuel until a representative goes to the house and asks him if they cancelled the oil because they're moving out or what?

After talking to the rep, he manages to get a copy of the check, front and back, and see's that she's written his name to cash the check.

Used and abused and violated, what is a father supposed to do in a case like this. Are his young children going to grow up to be taught calculating, manipulative and criminal behavior from one who undoubtedly lacks a sense of honesty decency and fair play? Or does he prosecute the criminal act to the full extent of the law and fight for custody of the minor children?


Summergarden

...look's like the breakdown in the marriage is not going to be reconciled.

Take it from experience, as I thought that I was reading my own profile somewhat, prosecute her to the fullest extent of statute law!

This type of person has no conscience and will just continue to misuse/abuse a nice guy.

It is a tough love/growing pain adventure, but believe me Mr. Nice Guy will feel better later on down the road for taking the time to stand now and say... enough is enough.

.2 worth

[summergarden]

It's sometimes difficult if not impossible to practice tough love unless one can discipline themselves to think instead of acting emotionally.

The saying that "nice guys come in last" isn't without merit.

Summergarden

[fulltitle]

Originally Posted by summergarden

It's sometimes difficult if not impossible to practice tough love unless one can discipline themselves to think instead of acting emotionally.

The saying that "nice guys come in last" isn't without merit.

Summergarden

WITHOUT PREJUDICE
I can empathize quite. But for a strong cup of coffee to get you going: take a lookat at the definition for 'nice' at http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?...earchmode=none. I dont see much problem with being kind. But being 'nice'? Hmm. Be dilligent. Hold fast to that which you have.

[Freedomless]

Tyrannical states attack the family. Both the Nazis and Communists are infamous for state intrusions in family affairs. In the United States, similar bureaucratic and political intrusions come from family courts. Most Americans are unaware of the existence of these relatively new "courts." Howard University professor Stephen Baskerville is the leading authority on these courts. He says family courts are "the most dangerous institution posing a threat to constitutional rights in our society. The only parallels are the ideological-bureaucratic dictatorships of the last century." Family courts claim immunity from the Constitution and from scrutiny by federal courts. Baskerville describes them as follows: "Their proceedings are secret and unrecorded. Their orders are enforced by bureaucratic police who do not wear uniforms and whose sole responsibility is to conduct surveillance over families and private lives. As such, these police are akin to secret police. By the very nature of their jurisdiction, these courts and police are the most intrusive and invasive arm of government, and yet they are accountable to virtually no one. Such an institution is intolerable in a free society." Recently a family court judge ordered the parents of a 7-year-old boy in Berne, N.Y., to put their child on Ritalin, a behavior-control drug. The alternative was to be found guilty of "educational neglect," an offense that would open the possibility of their child being seized by Child Protective Services -- a Hillary Clinton "village" institution straight from the pages of the Gestapo. The child suffered serious side effects from the drug, but parents no longer have the right to decide what is best for their children. Tyrannical states assault the individual in the inner recesses of his consciousness. He is not permitted to think certain thoughts or to express a prohibited thought privately to anyone. Recently, Janice Barton encountered a Spanish-speaking couple while leaving a restaurant in Manistee, Mich. She turned to her mother and said, "I wish these (ethnic slur) would learn to speak English." An off-duty deputy sheriff overheard the private remark, followed the woman to her car and noted her tag number. Janice Barton was sentenced to 45 days in jail for her thought crime. This couldn't happen in a free country.

Originally Posted by Freedomless

Tyrannical states attack the family. Both the Nazis and Communists are infamous for state intrusions in family affairs. In the United States, similar bureaucratic and political intrusions come from family courts. Most Americans are unaware of the existence of these relatively new "courts." Howard University professor Stephen Baskerville is the leading authority on these courts. He says family courts are "the most dangerous institution posing a threat to constitutional rights in our society. The only parallels are the ideological-bureaucratic dictatorships of the last century." Family courts claim immunity from the Constitution and from scrutiny by federal courts. Baskerville describes them as follows: "Their proceedings are secret and unrecorded. Their orders are enforced by bureaucratic police who do not wear uniforms and whose sole responsibility is to conduct surveillance over families and private lives. As such, these police are akin to secret police. By the very nature of their jurisdiction, these courts and police are the most intrusive and invasive arm of government, and yet they are accountable to virtually no one. Such an institution is intolerable in a free society." Recently a family court judge ordered the parents of a 7-year-old boy in Berne, N.Y., to put their child on Ritalin, a behavior-control drug. The alternative was to be found guilty of "educational neglect," an offense that would open the possibility of their child being seized by Child Protective Services -- a Hillary Clinton "village" institution straight from the pages of the Gestapo. The child suffered serious side effects from the drug, but parents no longer have the right to decide what is best for their children. Tyrannical states assault the individual in the inner recesses of his consciousness. He is not permitted to think certain thoughts or to express a prohibited thought privately to anyone. Recently, Janice Barton encountered a Spanish-speaking couple while leaving a restaurant in Manistee, Mich. She turned to her mother and said, "I wish these (ethnic slur) would learn to speak English." An off-duty deputy sheriff overheard the private remark, followed the woman to her car and noted her tag number. Janice Barton was sentenced to 45 days in jail for her thought crime. This couldn't happen in a free country.

I have made it a personal mission to find a way to defeat these "secret police" and abolish these unconstitutional courts. They really do think they have the right to our families, but they don't and I will find a way some how to defeat them (look up the word defeat and that is what I am going to do)
Dan www.fightcps.com

[wargamez102]

...I agree with you 100 percent.

If [p]eople were to realize that these so-called family courts have stolen our identities for profit, and further realized that if the so-called family courts were taken out of business, the corrupt system would fall by the way-side within minutes.

I believe that I was (still could be) close to unraveling this system with a comprehensible remedy, then I was attacked at my home once again by this foreign corporation at gun point.

Oh Joy...

[gldskr]

wargamez102

Could you elaborate on your comprehensive remedy?

gldskr

[planetmark]

Add me to the list of amen's on this thread. I'm polishing up my armor, and sharpening my sword. It's time the men of this country unite, stand up together, and fight for our children. I want to hear more about this "comprehensive remedy" as well. My soon-to-be-ex kidnapped my six children, and is mentally and emotionally ravishing them every day now for almost two years. People have died for a heck of a lot less offensive assault against a man's children. I have nothing left to lose, so I'm willing to try anything. Let's collaborate on some ideas and strategies, and get this monster back under control. I'm ready to risk winning, or die trying.

[idknow]

Originally Posted by planetmark

Add me to the list of amen's on this thread. I'm polishing up my armor, and sharpening my sword. It's time the men of this country unite, stand up together, and fight for our children. I want to hear more about this "comprehensive remedy" as well. My soon-to-be-ex kidnapped my six children, and is mentally and emotionally ravishing them every day now for almost two years. People have died for a heck of a lot less offensive assault against a man's children. I have nothing left to lose, so I'm willing to try anything. Let's collaborate on some ideas and strategies, and get this monster back under control. I'm ready to risk winning, or die trying.

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NOW HERE THIS!

1. sit
2, twiddle your thumbs
3. pray
4. learn to say "no" to all offers to contract (things that require your signature) by court personnel.
5. be wise as a wolf, and as gentle as a lamb.
6. speak softly
8. walk softly (without the big stick)
9. do NOT become excited when they scream, yell, rant and rave - it's ALL posturing! and means nothing!
10. if they threaten you with jail or cortempt for saying nothing then that is appealable, they CANNOT FORCE YOU TO SIGN A CONTRACT that you dont want to.

the others here can give you the technical terms.

Good luck, Jim.