The APA & The Department of Revenue

[weishaupt1776]

This is going to be based on research from Here http://forum.suijuris.net/showthread.php?p=54826#post54826 Here's what Gator Guy Wrote:

Originally Posted by gatorguy3

Alright... I am reading the information on the Department of Revenue as an agency and this is what I see in reference to child support... 20.21 Department of Revenue.--There is created a Department of Revenue. (1) The head of the Department of Revenue is the Governor and Cabinet. (h) The child support enforcement responsibilities of the department include the administration of the child support enforcement program established by Title IV-D of the Social Security Act, 42 U.S.C. ss. 651 et seq. (4) Necessary legal services, pursuant to chapter 16, including litigation shall be provided to the Department of Revenue by the Department of Legal Affairs, except for the establishment of paternity or support obligations, and the modification, enforcement, and collection of support obligations, for which legal services may be provided under a contract entered into by the Department of Revenue as the Title IV-D agency. in (4) this is why there is a private attorney working on behalf of the department. he does not actually work within the department, rather, he is being contracted by them. Going to read more. I still do not quite understand.

We are basing this research on an APA Motion to dismiss(attachment below) regarding a traffic case and are attempting to look for a way to dismiss this court proceeding of Gator's

Here is another:http://www.fu.gq.nu/humvee.html

[summergarden]

This is why the Department of Motor Vehicles started demanding a Social Security Number upon the issuance or renewal of a Driver License.

With the record in the DMV files they can catch wayward fathers (mostly) who don't pay their child support.

Summergarden

[gatorguy3]

I have read all the motions and what has been stated. I see a correlation in some things, but because I am dealing with the Dept of Rev I am a bit confused.

[weishaupt1776]

Wherever it mentions DMV or Motorvehicles, just substitute Dept of Revenue

They have failed to state a claim

[David Merrill]

Dear Summergarden;


I do not know what state you are in but that demand for a SSN attached to a driver license is likely an illusion.

(3) (a) Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of this subsection (3), on and after October 1, 2000, an application for a driver's or minor driver's license shall include the applicant's social security number, which shall remain confidential and shall not be placed on the applicant's driver's or minor driver's license unless such applicant has waived such confidentiality; except that such confidentiality shall not extend to the state child support enforcement agency, the department, or a court of competent jurisdiction when requesting information in the course of activities authorized under article 13 of title 26, C.R.S.,or article 14 of title 14, C.R.S. If the applicant does not have a social security number, the applicant shall submit a sworn statement, together with the application, stating that the applicant does not have a social security number. The license issued as a result of said application may, at the applicant's option, contain an identification number, which shall be the applicant's social security number.

In Colorado, reading without intelligence, a well articulated illusion at that.


Regards,

David Merrill.

Re the Special Appearance and Motion to Dismiss, I had a couple red flags go up before I passed the first page:

1. Never waive anything, much less a speedy trial.
2. Plaintiff is “THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA." HUH? THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA is the fiction. (All caps, STATE OF, etc.) The Constitution at least spells the above with proper English composition:
We, the People of the State of California...

I don't argue, but If I was a prosecuting Attorney, I'd say that the Plaintiff was a "person" of the STATE OF CALIFORNIA.

Just my thoughts. Bad foundations breed bad futures.

Henry Franklin

[weishaupt1776]

True, there are some things I would Mod

For instance, i would call them THE STATE OF FLORIDA, alleged plaintiff