This is bad, Custodial parent probably has HIV

[beeboah]

due to the environment I am in I will use the symbol ">" instead of HIV.


I live in Virginia, but the CP lives in FL with my child. I have some unusual questions. However, I am not sure what to ask, or how to ask because of the peculiarity of the situation, and the time that has elapsed.

I know I should have asked questions like these so long ago, but I have blacked out many things since the separation/divorce/custody judgment, and rightfully so. In addition, I have been given advice by anti-NCP folk on the internet and didn't realize the bad advice (e.g. you are a liar) when I saw it.

During the year 2001, CP and I went out camping in the State of Virginia. CP was allegedly bitten by a tick, and developed a large "bullseye" mark on their back. Shortly thereafter, CP returned to FL with the child (before 6 months) to the State of Florida. CP told me that they went to a doctor for the mark, and was advised that they were tested for Lyme Disease.

CP then alleged that they were tested for Lyme Disease and the test turned out negative. However, CP told me that the doctor said they had >. I urged CP to get a "Western Blot" test which is supposed to affirm that CP has >. CP alleged that they took another test which affirmed that they had >.

I went to get tested multiple times, and in the years to come, but it was determined that I do not have >. CP suddenly vascillated, and told me that they did not have >. CP alleged that this was all a "big mistake" made by an unknown medical facility. CP even alleged that they filed suit against the medical facility and won.

CP provided me with a negative result, but would not let the paper leave their hand. CP refused to provide me with a positive result or the name of any medical facility. I didn't look at the document at the time to determine what or where the medical facility was. CP also advised that they tested positive for Lyme Disease and that the > reading was accidental. (This was CP's alledged premise for filing suit against the unknown medical facility in that they were being tested for the wrong thing).

I have checked CP's locale, for which public records (including lawsuits are found on the internet), but have found none.

Through a few other sources I have heard that CP states they will always test positive for >, because they allegedly been treated for Lyme Disease, but the disease will always show positive on a test result.

My questions (not for you, but informally to the medical community) were as follows:

1) Is there any reason why a person who goes in to be tested for Lyme Disease would be tested for >?

Answer: No

2) Is there any corrolation between a test for Lyme Disease and >?

Answer: No

3) Is there any possibility that someone could take a test, and then a confirmatory test for > and then suddenly be found negative?

Answer: No

Based on the above, my questions are as follows:

1) Could I subpeona alleged health records for CP stating that they have or do not have >?

2) In the eyes of the law, would I have the right to know whether or not CP has >?

3) In the eyes of the law, could > pose a health risk for child?

4) If I could turn around and obtain said records, could I turn around and sue for not being advised of the truth (or sue for anything else) if the statute of limitations for such has not expired?

5) Is there any publically accessible database that you know of which advises whether or not someone has >?

Sorry for the long post, and not even knowing what to ask, but something had to be asked, if not done even if years have passed.

Thank you very much for your thoughts.

[ndusa]

Originally Posted by beeboah

due to the environment I am in I will use the symbol ">" instead of HIV.


I live in Virginia, but the CP lives in FL with my child. I have some unusual questions. However, I am not sure what to ask, or how to ask because of the peculiarity of the situation, and the time that has elapsed.

I know I should have asked questions like these so long ago, but I have blacked out many things since the separation/divorce/custody judgment, and rightfully so. In addition, I have been given advice by anti-NCP folk on the internet and didn't realize the bad advice (e.g. you are a liar) when I saw it.

During the year 2001, CP and I went out camping in the State of Virginia. CP was allegedly bitten by a tick, and developed a large "bullseye" mark on their back. Shortly thereafter, CP returned to FL with the child (before 6 months) to the State of Florida. CP told me that they went to a doctor for the mark, and was advised that they were tested for Lyme Disease.

CP then alleged that they were tested for Lyme Disease and the test turned out negative. However, CP told me that the doctor said they had >. I urged CP to get a "Western Blot" test which is supposed to affirm that CP has >. CP alleged that they took another test which affirmed that they had >.

I went to get tested multiple times, and in the years to come, but it was determined that I do not have >. CP suddenly vascillated, and told me that they did not have >. CP alleged that this was all a "big mistake" made by an unknown medical facility. CP even alleged that they filed suit against the medical facility and won.

CP provided me with a negative result, but would not let the paper leave their hand. CP refused to provide me with a positive result or the name of any medical facility. I didn't look at the document at the time to determine what or where the medical facility was. CP also advised that they tested positive for Lyme Disease and that the > reading was accidental. (This was CP's alledged premise for filing suit against the unknown medical facility in that they were being tested for the wrong thing).

I have checked CP's locale, for which public records (including lawsuits are found on the internet), but have found none.

Through a few other sources I have heard that CP states they will always test positive for >, because they allegedly been treated for Lyme Disease, but the disease will always show positive on a test result.

My questions (not for you, but informally to the medical community) were as follows:

1) Is there any reason why a person who goes in to be tested for Lyme Disease would be tested for >?

Answer: No

2) Is there any corrolation between a test for Lyme Disease and >?

Answer: No

3) Is there any possibility that someone could take a test, and then a confirmatory test for > and then suddenly be found negative?

Answer: No

Based on the above, my questions are as follows:

1) Could I subpeona alleged health records for CP stating that they have or do not have >?

2) In the eyes of the law, would I have the right to know whether or not CP has >?

3) In the eyes of the law, could > pose a health risk for child?

4) If I could turn around and obtain said records, could I turn around and sue for not being advised of the truth (or sue for anything else) if the statute of limitations for such has not expired?

5) Is there any publically accessible database that you know of which advises whether or not someone has >?

Sorry for the long post, and not even knowing what to ask, but something had to be asked, if not done even if years have passed.

Thank you very much for your thoughts.

First of all, not all cases are on the net, not even close to half. In North Dakota, as I assume most western states, very few cases are on the "net". If they settled out of court, it would prob. be sealed.

Second, what is your concern with HIV?? If this person had cancer, would you want to take the children away?

The chances of you getting medical records are zero, as it is none of your business. I can understand a concern for the child/ren, but thats kinda low using someones health against them. Kinda like, "I seen her dancing with the devil, burn the witch" crap.

[beeboah]

Originally Posted by ndusa

First of all, not all cases are on the net, not even close to half. In North Dakota, as I assume most western states, very few cases are on the "net". If they settled out of court, it would prob. be sealed.

Second, what is your concern with HIV?? If this person had cancer, would you want to take the children away?

The chances of you getting medical records are zero, as it is none of your business. I can understand a concern for the child/ren, but thats kinda low using someones health against them. Kinda like, "I seen her dancing with the devil, burn the witch" crap.

To answer your question. I would like to know what the CP's physical health condition is, be it cancer or AIDS so that I can see how much longer they are going to have the capacity to parent, which they don't do very well by the way. Wasn't it low when the ex decided to cheat and potentially spread disease towards the rest of her family? How low was that when she had everyone in the neighborhood, then decided to quash it like many people do? Quite amusingly, that is not important is it?

My concern is for my child, I want to know if the ex has HIV, because that can harm the child. I don't care about what the politically correct say. Who knows what she would intentionally do to the child? Do you know what she is capable of? I think not. Who cares if it is "low" in your eyes? I am sure that my chances are greater than "zero" as you put it.


Looks like another freeadvice site. If that is the case, I am out of here.

[ndusa]

Originally Posted by beeboah

To answer your question. I would like to know what the CP's physical health condition is, so that I can see how much longer they are going to have the capacity to parent, which they don't do very well by the way. Wasn't it low when the ex decided to cheat and potentially spread disease towards the rest of her family?

My concern is for my child, I want to know if the ex has hiv, because that can harm the child. Who cares if it is "low" in your eyes. I am sure that my chances are greater than "zero" as you put it.

This place looks like another freeadvice. If that is the case, I am out of here.

Easy now! No reason to get hostile.

I ment you are not going to get those med. records for your ex, just because they are confidential. You can try, but I just don't see it happening. UNLESS, you file something with the court, and in the civil matter ask for that.

Second, if this woman is running around trying to convince people of some horse **** story like that, and its not true, well, file for that.

Third, if you try to use med. for child custody, you will lose, I'm sorry to tell you that, but you will. Now, if it were full blown case of aids, I could see this working for you.

Fourth, you can call Family services, or the sheriff's department, (I'd go with the sheriff) and explain your concerns! MAKE THEM DO A WELFARE CHECK!!(That heats things up).

It's a sad situation to be sure. But, HIV isn't just going to spread like wild fire. I would be scared too, but what can you do? HIV doesn't pass like a cold or flu, this is my point. For your concerns will prob. be met with tons and tons of "medical testing" on HIV, and it could possibly, just might, blow up in your face. I'm not saying that to be a jerk, just giving you my two cents worth.

[beeboah]

Originally Posted by ndusa

Easy now! No reason to get hostile.

I ment you are not going to get those med. records for your ex, just because they are confidential. You can try, but I just don't see it happening. UNLESS, you file something with the court, and in the civil matter ask for that.

Second, if this woman is running around trying to convince people of some horse **** story like that, and its not true, well, file for that.

Third, if you try to use med. for child custody, you will lose, I'm sorry to tell you that, but you will. Now, if it were full blown case of aids, I could see this working for you.

Fourth, you can call Family services, or the sheriff's department, (I'd go with the sheriff) and explain your concerns! MAKE THEM DO A WELFARE CHECK!!(That heats things up).

It's a sad situation to be sure. But, HIV isn't just going to spread like wild fire. I would be scared too, but what can you do? HIV doesn't pass like a cold or flu, this is my point. For your concerns will prob. be met with tons and tons of "medical testing" on HIV, and it could possibly, just might, blow up in your face. I'm not saying that to be a jerk, just giving you my two cents worth.

alrighty then, let me digest what you are saying....

reading through, thank you

[beeboah]

Originally Posted by ndusa

Easy now! No reason to get hostile.

I ment you are not going to get those med. records for your ex, just because they are confidential. You can try, but I just don't see it happening. UNLESS, you file something with the court, and in the civil matter ask for that.

Second, if this woman is running around trying to convince people of some horse **** story like that, and its not true, well, file for that.

Third, if you try to use med. for child custody, you will lose, I'm sorry to tell you that, but you will. Now, if it were full blown case of aids, I could see this working for you.

Fourth, you can call Family services, or the sheriff's department, (I'd go with the sheriff) and explain your concerns! MAKE THEM DO A WELFARE CHECK!!(That heats things up).

It's a sad situation to be sure. But, HIV isn't just going to spread like wild fire. I would be scared too, but what can you do? HIV doesn't pass like a cold or flu, this is my point. For your concerns will prob. be met with tons and tons of "medical testing" on HIV, and it could possibly, just might, blow up in your face. I'm not saying that to be a jerk, just giving you my two cents worth.

Alrighty then, so to try and digest what you are saying, I have a few questions/comments if you don't mind:

1) So, It was my initial intention to file something with the clerk to get this information in the interest of the child, and because I want to know (that is just part of the truth).

2) Do I have to file in the family court with jurisdiction over the child, or could I file in General District Court in my jurisdiction? (Remember, I live in a different State) and would like to make it harder/more expensive for the CP to fight me on this. (That is the truth). So I'd rather file in local district court if possible.

3) The CP has run around and told this story to everyone, except CP has twisted it to make it seem that I gave it to her. I have lost my entire biological family due to this. I mean it, cousins, aunts, grandmother, etc. No one talks to me because of what she said. My own parents have belief of what she says to.

So how would I sue, if I can't prove she has told everyone this?

4) I understand medical for custody. Just trying to use it as a building block in my case with many other elements.

5) Can you expand as much as possible on the Sheriff's office and welfare? I'd like to be careful with anyone like that, because of "Tit for Tat", but I would be grateful if you could explain.

6) I am especially concerned about the HIV thing, because the mother seems to make the child sick when she isn't getting attention. I can't prove it, but it keeps happening.

Thank you for your time. If you are not able to chime in, perhaps someone else will.

[ndusa]

Originally Posted by beeboah

Alrighty then, so to try and digest what you are saying, I have a few questions/comments if you don't mind:

1) So, It was my initial intention to file something with the clerk to get this information in the interest of the child, and because I want to know (that is just part of the truth).

2) Do I have to file in the family court with jurisdiction over the child, or could I file in General District Court in my jurisdiction? (Remember, I live in a different State) and would like to make it harder/more expensive for the CP to fight me on this. (That is the truth). So I'd rather file in local district court if possible.

3) The CP has run around and told this story to everyone, except CP has twisted it to make it seem that I gave it to her. I have lost my entire biological family due to this. I mean it, cousins, aunts, grandmother, etc. No one talks to me because of what she said. My own parents have belief of what she says to.

So how would I sue, if I can't prove she has told everyone this?

4) I understand medical for custody. Just trying to use it as a building block in my case with many other elements.

5) Can you expand as much as possible on the Sheriff's office and welfare? I'd like to be careful with anyone like that, because of "Tit for Tat", but I would be grateful if you could explain.

6) I am especially concerned about the HIV thing, because the mother seems to make the child sick when she isn't getting attention. I can't prove it, but it keeps happening.

Thank you for your time.

I will try to answer these:

1 & 2- You would file in the the court with original, continuing jurisdiction. Unless-- You were to file a charge for abuse or something. But, even then, it would be filed where she lives(she would be breaking the laws of her state, not yours)

3-IF you don't have HIV, and she does, well---Sue her ass! Slander, libel, invasion of privacy, ect...

4-Med. is hard to prove, only if she is completly incabable of caring for herself. You'd be better off going after her for a boyfriend, smoking, drinking, ect..

5-The reason I said Sheriff, is they are less likely to harass you, unlike family services. They HAVE to do a welfare check if you call and ask for one. Also, that is confidential, so they can't give your name out(supposedly). But, these records would do far better in court, than to try to argue health. P.M. me if I'm confussing you, could explain it better in private.

6-DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!!! Childs clothes, weight gain/loss, how often sick, if she smokes around the child, mothers way of dressing(same clothes day after day?) . Again, a welfare check would put some heat on, but then she might straiten up just enough to get them off her back. Never the less, you would have these docs. for court.

I hope this helps some, nothing is etched in stone, but hope it helps you in someway.

[beeboah]

Originally Posted by ndusa

I will try to answer these:

1 & 2- You would file in the the court with original, continuing jurisdiction. Unless-- You were to file a charge for abuse or something. But, even then, it would be filed where she lives(she would be breaking the laws of her state, not yours)

3-IF you don't have HIV, and she does, well---Sue her ass! Slander, libel, invasion of privacy, ect...

4-Med. is hard to prove, only if she is completly incabable of caring for herself. You'd be better off going after her for a boyfriend, smoking, drinking, ect..

5-The reason I said Sheriff, is they are less likely to harass you, unlike family services. They HAVE to do a welfare check if you call and ask for one. Also, that is confidential, so they can't give your name out(supposedly). But, these records would do far better in court, than to try to argue health. P.M. me if I'm confussing you, could explain it better in private.

6-DOCUMENT EVERYTHING!!!! Childs clothes, weight gain/loss, how often sick, if she smokes around the child, mothers way of dressing(same clothes day after day?) . Again, a welfare check would put some heat on, but then she might straiten up just enough to get them off her back. Never the less, you would have these docs. for court.

I hope this helps some, nothing is etched in stone, but hope it helps you in someway.

No, this has been pretty helpful. I'll fire a pm over to you on what I don't understand if you are ok with that?

Thanks

[ndusa]

Originally Posted by beeboah

No, this has been pretty helpful. I'll fire a pm over to you on what I don't understand if you are ok with that?

Thanks

Ya, i'm ok with that, boared at work, need something to do lol.

[beeboah]

Originally Posted by ndusa

Ya, i'm ok with that, boared at work, need something to do lol.

I know the feeling

I'll probably hit you up tomorrow when I am bored at work.

P.S. If there is any pro se stuff that I can help you with, I would be pleased to give you a hand.

Although I ask questions here, I have some GOOD experience with credit issues, and some experience with family law.