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Old 06-14-2006, 03:57 PM
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Communist Iowa has custody of my child What can I do?

I have read a few cases on child custody, and still have little information on how to fight the state for my child.

My case background is as this; My child at three months old was subjected to the abuse of the Communist State of Iowa after her mother went AWOL for 20 hours. I was told if I was to be her sole caretaker that they would leave us alone, however after three visits to a WIC type program the nurse conspired with the CPS worker to have her hospitalized with failure to thrive. After three days and much conversation between the nurse,CPS agent, and the doctor they diagnosed her with failure to thrive. I was forced to sign her over to CPS for three months or have her stolen. I signed the papers and was promptly notifyed that the state was indeed going to be a theif by CPS. She was in foster care for three months when I was notified that my perental rights were going to be taken away for no reason stated by the state. I got my parents involved and had her sent to their home after over a year later. I now am at a stage where my "lier" will do nothing to help get her back even after I have done EVERYTHING the state asked me to do. IT'S BEEN ALMOST FIVE YEARS
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Old 06-14-2006, 07:55 PM
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Well first and foremost you need to quit using the term “Communist State of Iowa” as you never know who is reading your words and if you think no-one can find out who you are you are not being realistic.

What you have stated herein is not new to me I have seen these thing before and it is not something to give up on.

But I am sorry but the info you are providing is inadequate to formulate a theory to offer a coerce of action to be based upon.

With that said, the best thing you could do right now is to get rid of the mouth-piece and start educating yourself.

Start by getting a copy of Iowa’s Court rules and the Federal Court rules and study the time allotted to file, serve, and how and what they needed to do or what they did.

Start by making a chronological list of what has happened and what response either you or your mouth-piece entered or served in response.

Compare all of that with the court rules, and after that start looking at the acts of the legislature concerning child and parents rights and the rights of the state, not the statutes per say as the acts are the intent of the legislature.

Just maybe they did not comply with the ”LAW” some where in this process.

This is where and how I would start, and I am not a lawyer nor an attorney, no have I been formally educated in law so this is my opinion and where and how I would start.

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Old 06-14-2006, 09:47 PM
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cowboytroll,

Whenever I see a post like yours, I think of answering like I did at this link.
By the time you do that learning, you can write your own remedy.

I agree that you start with writing down all the events from day the offspring was born to present.

Create yourself some affidavit that declares facts of what happened (what you saw, what you heard, and what you did), and that some specific man, woman or racketeering organization injured you and/or your loved one (a minor) physically, emotionally, socially, financially, with a default clause. Then do your common law default. In the default clause you may want: exclusive custody, power of attorney over all property of your adversaries, and anything else that floats your boat. Then you write more remedy for yourself: orders, judgments, etc. Serve them on parties holding your loved one. Then if no response, initiate claim in court. You keep going till you achieve what you want. By then you should have plenty of knowledge and confidence.

Also you may think your place is or appears communist, yet under the surface (after digging for gems of knowledge and finding them) this place is very free; just note that true freedom requires knowledge of truth.

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Old 06-15-2006, 07:58 AM
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communisim

I call Iowa communist because I read their constitution. If I call it something, expect it to be true. Their constitution demands that no lawsuits by corporations can be made aginst the state for any wrong doing by the state.
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Old 06-15-2006, 09:15 AM
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Since the state is the creator of those corporations, the state makes whatever rules the state wants regarding those corporations. Think of the circumstances being like Almighty God is your Creator and you can never hurt Him.

If you are one of the People of Iowa, you can sue the state and/or the state's child corporations on any day you wish.

Learn to be [one of] the People and not a corporation; and make everything you do constitute a worship of the Supreme Being [Almighty God, Christ Jesus of Nazareth of Galilee] and you'll be well on your way. Change your mentality. It may take time, but if you desire and seek such change/transformation, you'll get it.

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Originally Posted by Iowa Constitution
Preamble. WE THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF IOWA, grateful to the Supreme Being for the blessings hitherto enjoyed, and feeling our dependence on Him for a continuation of those blessings, do ordain and establish a free and independent government, by the name of the State of Iowa, the boundaries whereof shall be as follows: [--OMITTED--]

ARTICLE I.
BILL OF RIGHTS.

Rights of persons. SECTION 1. All men and women are, by nature, free and equal, and have certain inalienable rights--among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.
Amended 1998, Amendment [45]

Political power. SEC. 2. All political power is inherent in the people. Government is instituted for the protection, security, and benefit of the people, and they have the right, at all times, to alter or reform the same, whenever the public good may require it.

Religion. SEC. 3. The general assembly shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; nor shall any person be compelled to attend any place of worship, pay tithes, taxes, or other rates for building or repairing places of worship, or the maintenance of any minister, or ministry.
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Old 06-15-2006, 10:45 AM
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there's a few things you can do. Have your parents get full custody(as I'm sure you can see your kid whenever then) or try to fight it.

Did this child see other doctors? Perhaps one that you use? You would have to show all these people made a mistake, or atleast that the nurse did, and instead of the rest looking into, they acted neglegently.

AS far as your state, look up the MAXIMS OF JURISPRUDENCE, that should explain your rights a bit more.

I agree you can't sue the state, but you can sue each actor that is at fault, knowingly or neglegently. Look at the US Constitution, look up the Fed. laws, esp. the one on 'color of law".

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Old 06-15-2006, 10:45 AM
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Good contribution, mikah2k.
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I tryed to insert a message but grt this reply so I will insert it as an attachment.

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The attachment is a good read and may or may not shead some light.

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Old 06-15-2006, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cowboytroll
I have read a few cases on child custody, and still have little information on how to fight the state for my child.

My case background is as this; My child at three months old was subjected to the abuse of the Communist State of Iowa after her mother went AWOL for 20 hours. I was told if I was to be her sole caretaker that they would leave us alone, however after three visits to a WIC type program the nurse conspired with the CPS worker to have her hospitalized with failure to thrive. After three days and much conversation between the nurse,CPS agent, and the doctor they diagnosed her with failure to thrive.
Why did you take the child to the WIC office? Were you under an order to do this? As you can see WIC and CPS have a close relationship.

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I was forced to sign her over to CPS for three months or have her stolen.
Emphasis added.

If you are going to fight this, you may need to explain just how you were forced into signing the documents, this may be grounds for voiding the documents.

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I signed the papers and was promptly notifyed that the state was indeed going to be a theif by CPS.
Unless you reserved your rights when you signed the documents, CPS will likely take the position that you agreed to this arrangement. Please review these documents to see why CPS wanted you to sign them in the first place. You may need to deal with these documents (see above).

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She was in foster care for three months when I was notified that my perental rights were going to be taken away for no reason stated by the state.
Just how did they notify you of this matter? Was it in writing, what did they say?

There should have been some sort of appeals process in this notice. If not, you should look into suing the entity that took/stole your child and your inalienable rights. Look at your state's constitution first. There should have been a due process trial, unless you waived your rights, before your rights were trespassed upon.

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Originally Posted by CONSTITUTION OF THE STATE OF IOWA
Right of trial by jury--due process of law. SEC. 9. The right of trial by jury shall remain inviolate; but the general assembly may authorize trial by a jury of a less number than twelve men in inferior courts; but no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

See also R.Cr.P. 2.17, 2.21(2), 2.67; R.C.P. 1.902, 1.903, 1.1108
Emphasis added.

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I got my parents involved and had her sent to their home after over a year later.
You can now visit the child, correct?

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I now am at a stage where my "lier" will do nothing to help get her back even after I have done EVERYTHING the state asked me to do. IT'S BEEN ALMOST FIVE YEARS
Why not look into getting rid of the attorney, find a new one, or do it yourself?
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