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Old 12-20-2006, 09:29 PM
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Well, let’s see what they have to look at, a disregarded and violated court order, no child support paid and refusal to pay, failure to cooperate with child services on determining status, sending what could/will be construed as threatening documents to your ex.

They can certainly make a case for parental neglect and lack of responsibility, and they will view the violation of a court order in a particularly dim light, and coupled with the other things I do not foresee a happy time at the next court appearance, and there will be one. With the factors involved here, it is within the realm of possibility that they will terminate parental rights, and they most certainly can and will do so, particularly if you insist on giving them reason to.

I would seriously suggest you track down a parental rights counseling group and get some help, you are going to need it.
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Old 12-20-2006, 09:37 PM
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Well, let’s see what they have to look at, a disregarded and violated court order, no child support paid and refusal to pay, failure to cooperate with child services on determining status, sending what could/will be construed as threatening documents to your ex.

They can certainly make a case for parental neglect and lack of responsibility, and they will view the violation of a court order in a particularly dim light, and coupled with the other things I do not foresee a happy time at the next court appearance, and there will be one. With the factors involved here, it is within the realm of possibility that they will terminate parental rights, and they most certainly can and will do so, particularly if you insist on giving them reason to.

I would seriously suggest you track down a parental rights counseling group and get some help, you are going to need it.

All of which is nothing more than civil contempt. Whats that, a $100 fine?

They can NOT terminate rights for failure to pay child support. By federal law, you have to ABANDON your child, AND not pay. But for being behind in child support, good luck there. Thats one big ass civil action against everyone involved.

Even if a judge was stupid enough to try it, they are renagade of the Constitution, have lost all judicial immunity, and you cuold sue for "manafest abuse of descresion". I have met some daring judges in my day, but not one that would be that freagin stupid!
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Old 12-20-2006, 10:09 PM
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Of course, if this is in Canada, there could be a BIG diff. in how they steal your children. But for the USA, nobody can show a law as none exsists regarding termination of parental rights over child support.
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I would like to look at the jurisdictional elements leading to a familly court issuing a lawful order.
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I would like to look at the jurisdictional elements leading to a familly court issuing a lawful order.

Lawful order. Ha. No such thing exists in family law.
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Old 12-20-2006, 11:28 PM
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ASSumptions make an ASS out of YOU.

I just asked for PROOF OF CLAIM...
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Old 12-27-2006, 12:58 AM
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...if you have violated the court order, are not paying child support-which you admit, and not making an attempt to get it sorted out, that at the very least child support services can and will eventually terminate you parental and custodial rights?

Whatever “paperwork” you have sent to your Ex, has exactly zip of legal standing, and is just so much bird cage liner, and in fact, if they wish to make an issue of it they can use that against you not if but when they go back to court...

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

We are not in possession of nor have we seen ANY evidence of this. Hearsay! Hearsay! Hearsay!
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All of which is nothing more than civil contempt. Whats that, a $100 fine?

In California it can be criminal and lead to 5 days in jail per offense/months not paid.
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Old 12-27-2006, 08:50 AM
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I agree with how professor Stephen Baskerville details
this wayward industry and its many bottom feeding parasites:

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The divorce regime is the most totalitarian institution ever to arise in the United States. Its operatives in the family courts and the social service agencies recognize no private sphere of life. "The power of family court judges is almost unlimited," according to Judge Robert Page of the New Jersey family court. "Social workers are perceived to have nearly unlimited power," a San Diego Grand Jury concludes. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Total immunity [enjoyed by social workers] is absolute power."

The divorce regime is responsible for much more than "ugly divorces," "nasty custody battles," and other clichés. It is the most serious perpetrator of human and constitutional rights violations in America today. Because it strikes the most basic institution of any civilization – the family – the divorce regime is a threat not only to social order but to civil freedom. It is also almost completely unopposed. No political party and no politicians question it. No journalists investigate it in any depth. A few attorneys have spoken out, but they are eventually suspended or disbarred. Some academics have written about it, but they soon stop. No human rights or civil liberties groups challenge it, and some positively support it. Very few "pro-family" lobbies question it. This is because the divorce regime operates through money, political power, and fear.

The divorce regime is much more serious than simply "unfairness" or "gender bias" against fathers in custody proceedings. It is the government’s machine for destroying the principal check on its power – the family – and criminalizing its main rival: fathers. The most basic human and constitutional rights are routinely violated in America’s family courts. The lives of children and parents are in serious danger once they are, as the phrase goes, taken into "custody." Systemic conflicts-of-interest among government and private officials charged with child custody, child support, child protection, and connected matters have created a witch hunt against plainly innocent citizens.

The terror of the divorce regime is not a future possibility; it is a present reality. The following methods are currently employed by family courts and other government agents. These practices are now widespread in America:

* mass incarcerations without trial or charge
* forced confessions
* children forcibly separated from parents who are under no suspicion of legal wrongdoing and parents stripped of the care, custody, and companionship of their children without explanation
* government agents entering the homes, demanding and examining private papers and personal effects, and seizing the property of citizens who are under no suspicion of legal wrongdoing
* official court records, including hearing tapes and transcripts, doctored and falsified with the knowledge of court officials and evidence fabricated against the innocent
* defendants denied the constitutional right to face their accusers
* bureaucratic police authorized to issue subpoenas and arrest warrants against parents, with no hearing and contrary to due process of law
* special courts created specifically to process parents for political offenses
* forced labor facilities created specifically for parents
* children instructed to hate their parents with the backing of government officials
* children forced by government officials to act as informers against their parents
* children abused and killed with the backing of government officials
* knowingly false allegations, for which no evidence is presented, accepted as fact without proof, overturning the presumption of innocence, and not punished when demonstrated to be untrue
* parents ordered by government officials to separate from their spouses, on pain of losing their children
* parents forced to pay the private fees of court officials they have not hired and whose services they have not sought or used, on pain of incarceration
* parents suspected of no legal wrongdoing punitively stripped of their property and income, sometimes at gunpoint, and reduced to penury
* government officials using the mass media to vilify private American citizens, and political leaders using their offices as platforms to verbally attack private American citizens, who have no right of reply or opportunity to defend themselves
* parents jailed without trial reportedly beaten, in at least one case fatally, and denied medical attention while in police custody.

I have made these charges in some of the most reputable publications in the English language. They have never been refuted. Yet neither have they been corrected or even addressed by public officials, the media, or academics.

This site will tell you the truth about the divorce regime. It contains virtually all my published works – over 50 articles – on the fatherhood crisis and the corruption of the divorce industry (except book reviews and radio commentaries). For better or worse, these are the most strongly worded writings to appear on this subject in mainstream publications.

I am heavily indebted for the many letters, stories, documents, clippings, studies, citations, books, e-mail communications, and telephone calls – collected and sent to me by hundreds, perhaps thousands of people. It is not possible to name all these people, and many prefer not to be named.

Stephen Baskerville
http://www.stephenbaskerville.net/
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