Milk - Does a body WHAT??

[storme]

http://www.organicpastures.com/

We order from here and make keifer from the milk.


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Originally Posted by storme

http://www.organicpastures.com/

We order from here and make keifer from the milk.


http://www.mercola.com/forms/organic_pastures.htm

Thanks Storme!

kefir, Mmmmmm.

[dochand]

I also order dairy from organic pastures. The prices are a bit expensive, especially when figuring in the shipping charges, but well worth the health benefits asscoiated with their consumption.

My practice is consistently engaged in strongly urging patients to cease the consumption of all dairy unless raw milk/cream is the derivative. I have personally witnessed what many would call miracles when simply removing pasteurized/homogenized milk and their products from the diet.

The most dramatic and almost instant miracles occur with infants and children who suffer with chronic ear infectons or asthma or other upper respiratory dysfunctions. I have also witnessed the reversal of enuresis (bedwetting) by simply removing this offending non-food from the diet.

Unfortunately, infants and children are usually the ones who consume the most of these products, especially when considering the amount of intake versus their meager body weight comparision.

Do whatever you can to eliminate this poison and replace with raw milk and dairy products made from this wonderful food.

By the way, the study regarding calcium and osteoporosis, I would bet my life, utilized pateurized/homogenized milk.

Doc

[EnSabahNur]

I have personally witnessed what many would call miracles when simply removing pasteurized/homogenized milk and their products from the diet.

I can say the same thing.

It is fact that the human body can utilize neither protein nor calcium from cow milk. I don't know if that changes when it is raw, but the stuff you buy in stores is no better than poison for your body.

I does the body good my ass.

[JWR]

I removed my post as a result of Mr. Henry Bowman seems to have gotten upset with me (and others, see below). I do have first hand knowledge of what I had here which also results in the opinions I hold (I can also tell you a thing or two about factory farmed hogs and turkeys, but won't).

I can assure you though that I wouldn't fit in too well with the PETA folks. And as far as I know, my IQ should be a little higher than 0.... I think.

JWR

[LUKE2447]

In general, raw or not milk is not good for you as it is mucos forming and does little for the body but slow it down. Also concerning the AIDS/HIV "epidemic" it's all BS.

http://groups.msn.com/aidsmythexposed/messageboard.msnw

Cancer can be cured it all comes down to choice of educating ones self and diet even when you are in the late stages with some of the most severe cases. The FDA and pharm companies don't give a $hit about you it's all about money. The drugs kill you period. Thanks to chemtrails of the AIRPHARMACY getting us to breathe heavy metals and aluminum. What do you expect you bodies immune system to do??

So I can equally offend everyone, let me say if you have no firsthand experience, stop spouting BULLS$#T.

First of all, I guess God was wrong to give women breasts. I mean, Formula companies should have been started 2000 B.C., and everyone could have been healthy, huh?

I have heard some stupid ideas, but questioning whether it's ok to drink milk from one's mother is the most zero IQ statement I have ever heard.

I attribute my children's health to several things, but especially breastfeeding, then drinking RAW cows milk. I have firsthand experience in making this statement.

Now, I have no personal experience in the puss and blood arena, but I can tell you this. Milk that is on the shelf of your local supermarket has been so processed that there is NOTHING left. No vitamins, no absorbable minerals, no nutrients of any kind, unless you count puss and blood (scoffs).


Pasteurization kills everything, and just humor me and do a search on the dangers of homogenization, or you can read the article I post below.

Raw Milk is not good for you? Put up or shut up. How many gallons have you drank? How many pints have you drank? Have you even drank a drop? What health problems did you develop from drinking it?

If you can't answer those questions, you are as full of stuffing as a thanksgiving turkey.

I drink raw milk, (quite a lot) and enjoy it's benefits, such as helping me when I do get a bug, raising my intake of milk boosts my system. I make homemade butter, and it is unbelievable.

My children drink it, and they are healthy as a racehorse.

I did have mucous problems with store bought (PROCESSED) milk, but not raw.

Go educate yourself before showing your lack thereof.

Here's a good place to start:

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/article/dietgood/17/1/

Sorry to hammer you all so hard, but if there's anything that pisses me off, it's authoritative statements without any authority (or firsthand knowledge) behind them. Especially when they are fear based. (puss and blood).

Think about it, it's the reason for this board. Someone making a blanket statement that raw cows milk is bad without backing it up with personal experience is no different that a judge saying that you are under his authority, when in fact you aren't..

I mean, C'mon, did you people join PETA or what? (If you did, I'll consider the source)

Dirty animals? Can teats not be cleaned? Aren't Humans animals? Don't we take a bath every Saturday whether we need it or not?

Specifically to the maker of the "dirty animal" statement, do NOT kiss your mate. Do a google search about how dirty the mouth is.

Now, since I have flamed you, I welcome the return fire, but you better have authority or personal experience on your side.

All I have read thus far (that denounces Raw Milk) is diarrhea of the keyboard, and lacking firsthand knowledge.


HB

If I didn't have such respect for this board, and the members here searching for the truth, I would have been much more hostile with my post.

[LUKE2447]

Henry obviously you have a attitude problem and am surprised. Sure some milk is better for you than others like RAW vs Processed. Dr. Christopher and Dr. Hayes and many other health teachers that I have studied from the old school taught the same thing and where nature is the best teacher. I never said anything about MOTHER'S MILK! Mother's Milk is child based and is to stop as one get's older. Also it is laced with hormones for the child which are very important for proper growth and immune support for a human child such as IGF-1. HERE IS THE KEY unless the mother eats right she can either help or hurt the child with her milk. If her body is full of toxins and hormones or her body is constipated and not flowing right GUESS WHAT IT IS NO GOOD! In general is the mother's milk good for the child..... yes, very good. Do other facts contribute to this? Yes! I am personaly not going to go through all my medical books to find qoutes and everything they said. I studied it that to me is all that matters. I can qualify a statement if I choose to with more info or a simple sentence. My opinion is just that an opinion.

Henry anyone can get into a pissing contest about qualifying your comments with proof or statistics or whatever as I can show contradicting study after study. Alot of things help short term but that does not mean they are good for you nor does your statement that it helps you make it right or wrong. According to what base example or evidence does one qualify good health or in your term strong as a race horse?? I can not look inside your system to prove mucoid plaque slowing and clogging your system as I doubt you could show or disprove now. Many doctors have in their books have said as much but even then...... that is their opinion based on observation that I take there word for. I go by what nature says and it is always the greatest teacher as it is God's laws. Milk is for babies and yes it can be used but it is not what a huiman needs as when he gets older he is not dependant on someone else for nourishment but can chew and get his own food.

The best way to get calcium is not cows milk raw or not. Milk in itself is a secondary process through a living creature not from nature. Cow eats...... cow produces.... along with everything else wrong with the cow or what the cow ate wrong or was fed. Also the type of natural cow hormones and everything a cow produces is not the best for humans. Goats is the closest but still not the same as human milk. I used to drink raw milk all the time and use butter made from raw milk now. Def better than the store crap. I do not drink milk anymore though after research. Natural plant clacium is the best absorbing and is not a secondary product subject to process of manufacturing or through the body of a cow or non human creature. You can take what I say with a grain of sea salt I don't care I am just passing what I have studied. Also my point on saying BS was the fact concenring AIDS and HIV. I don't have to have or had AIDS or HIV to see it is a bunch of BS and what the surrounding issues are around it all.

Nature is always MASTER. You drink the milk of your mother, cow, goat, or human. Your mothers milk is the best milk for you. If there are some problems with it, only means she is sick or doing something against nature itself.

Of course, there are many comments, not confined to milk, that we can not make without insulting the AMA.

Since i am not a physician, i am free to follow my own opinion, and at my own risk. I don't have to say:"Consult your doctor first", as those poor radio or tv guess speakers who say it out of fear and not out of conviction.

Peace.

[husky2kawi]

What do you think about this...it is a cut/paste..........

The Hidden Cause of Parkinson's Disease Lurking in Your Fridge


Middle-aged men who drink one or two glasses of pasteurized milk a day may double their risk of Parkinson's disease later in life, according to a study. Researchers are uncertain of what is causing the link, whether an ingredient or contaminant in the milk, but believe it is not related to calcium.

The 30-year study followed over 7,500 men between the ages of 45 and 68 who were part of the Honolulu Heart Program. During the study, 128 men developed Parkinson's disease, which is a degenerative disease of the nervous system.

Specifically, those who drank more than 16 ounces of milk each day were 2.3 times more likely to develop Parkinson's than those who didn't drink any milk. During each 12-month period, 6.9 cases of Parkinson's would be expected per 10,000 people who drank no milk; however, among those who drank more than 16 ounces daily, 14.9 cases per 10,000 people would be expected. Overall, however, researchers pointed out that the Parkinson's risk was still very low, even among the men who drank a lot of milk.

The findings are in line with a previous study that found eating a lot of dairy products increased the risk of Parkinson's in men (the findings did not apply to women). In the current study, no link between calcium and Parkinson's was found, so researchers believe another component or contaminant of milk is responsible. Further studies are needed to determine what that component may be.

Neurology <http://www.neurology.org/cgi/content/abstract/64/6/1047?maxtoshow=&HITS=10&hits=10&RESULTFORMAT=&ando rexactfulltext=and&searchid=1113435345444_2817&sto red_search=&FIRSTINDEX=0&sortspec=relevance&volume =64&firstpage=1047&resourcetype=1&journalcode=neur ology> March 22, 2005;64(6):1047-1051

Dr. Mercola's Comment:
Earlier this year I wrote about all the steps you can take to avoid the 10 most common toxins in the water, food and air we breathe </2005/feb/19/common_toxins.htm>. That's what drew me to this study that found middle-aged men may more than double their risk of succumbing to Parkinson's disease if they drink lots of milk every day (compared to those who don't drink it at all).

Scientists couldn't identify the exact ingredient in milk that triggers Parkinson's in middle-aged men. However, they were able to conclude that it wasn't calcium, and thought it was either a contaminant in the milk or another ingredient. Perhaps environmental toxins, which are clearly linked to Parkinson's </2004/jul/10/parkinsons_toxin.htm>, are now in our milk supply and are causing this phenomenon (for instance, in June 2004 it was found that California milk may be contaminated with rocket fuel </2004/jul/7/milk_rocket_fuel.htm>.)

I strongly suspect that pasteurization was the "other ingredient" that contributed to Parkinson's. Pasteurization is thought to improve milk, but it actually distorts the three-dimensional shape of the proteins in the milk and converts them into foreign proteins that can actually harm your body. The study used pasteurized milk </2003/mar/26/pasteurized_milk.htm>, and I suspect the results would be dramatically different if raw milk were used.

If you or your family currently drink milk, it is important for you to find healthy raw milk sources </2004/apr/24/raw_milk.htm>. Less than 1 percent of the milk consumed in America is raw, which is most unfortunate as raw milk can be a highly nutritious, health-promoting food (unlike pasteurized milk).

In fact, I have seen so many of my patients recover their health with raw milk that I perceive this to be one of the most profoundly healthy foods you can consume. To that end, I strongly recommend you visit the Real Milk Web site <http://www.realmilk.com/where.html> to locate a farmer in your area who produces raw milk products.

Tips for Preventing Parkinson's Disease
Now that I've finished commenting on the newly discovered risk factor for Parkinson's, I'd like to review the other ways to reduce your risk of this disease, and prevention is really the best route to take. Here's what can help:

o Regular exercise </2004/nov/6/exercise_parkinsons.htm> is one of the best ways to protect against the onset of symptoms of Parkinson's disease.
o Avoid pesticide and insecticide exposure (as well as exposure to other environmental toxins like solvents). This is particularly important as summer approaches and mosquito fogging increases.
o Eating more vegetables, which are high in folic acid, is another highly effective step to prevent Parkinson's disease.
o Make sure your body has healthy levels of iron </2004/oct/30/iron_imbalance.htm> (neither too much nor too little).
o Consider coenzyme Q10 </2002/oct/30/parkinsons.htm>, which may help to fight the disease.

For more tips check out my past article on How to Prevent Parkinson's Disease </2003/aug/16/avoid_parkinsons.htm>.
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