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Old 06-18-2005, 12:38 AM
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Red face Why Are The Skies No Longer Blue???

I just viewed a most fascinating video titled "Aerosol Crimes" which goes into elaborate detail about the so called "contrails" that are continously clogging up our skies which no longer are blue, this is everywhere in the world, not just here in USA, it's happening in almost every country on the globe. If you watch this video, you may be closer to knowing what it is that is coming down to us here in these misty deposits, otherwise known as chemtrails. It's called mycoplasma, it contains fiber and other nasty things meant to mess up the general populations' immune systems. The cover up is at a very high level. The EPA refuses to address this at all!!!! How many people, especially very young children have asthma now at a young age?, Moreso than ever before. This video shows that this stuff is causing upper and lower respiratory failures, which it is at alarming rates. We can guess who is behind this, but seeing this just makes me so sad inside as I witness this in the skies all the time. The Indian population or council calls this the DEATH WINDS. They know about it but refuse to discuss it openly as it would affect people going to the casinos in certain areas and reflect on them. Go to google, plug in "Aerosol Crimes". The first site on the top of the page is where to look : www.carnica.com. How do we stop this, everyone high up has played dumb, all news casters refuse to discuss!!! Feedback welcome!!
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Old 06-18-2005, 03:11 AM
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Re: Chemtrails

I have read the above post concerning CHEMTRAILS and agree that this is a serious problem for all of humanity. The intended purpose, long run, is to reduce (as Scrooge said) "the surplus population".

I suggest that anyone desiring to know about what appears to be an effective counter go to the following:

http://educate-yourself.org/ct/

It is a rather excellent article written by folks that are already fighting this. If we, as sovereigns can link up with others of like mind, and pool our collective experience, there will be no stopping us.

God Bless us, each and everyone.

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Old 06-18-2005, 06:35 AM
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I am personally doing my part in cleaning the air. I have a Living Air Classic Ozone air purifier from Ecoquest and it never gets a break.(runs all the time).

If everyone had one of these or one of its Ion generating counterparts, we could oxidize ANYTHING in the air.
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thanks, great comprehensive site. especially like the ways to potentially deal with the problem, info without a cure is like the law without grace.
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Old 06-18-2005, 09:24 AM
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This may be a better link up to that information. But I would note first-off having seen the video that even Mr. Carnicom is not all that paranoid about massive extermination of the human species. He just knows something is up (pardon the pun).

http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

I have a real problem when people jump to the conclusion there is a conspiracy afoot. People in my opinion should pay attention to the Kyoto Accord, and the Sunstainability Conference in Rio de Janiero etc. Scientists have been telling you for a long time that the industrial processes and wastes we take for granted are killing us. That the ecosystem we call home, earth is not going to make it with the way we are going.

Therefore albeit another Internet rumor, I am prone to buy into one candid USAF officer who has been modeling for the Sheild Project. It certainly explains the lingering contrails a lot better than I have ever heard before.

Since the source I got this from is no better than any other, meaning the source will not come into the light with name and credentials, the reader may grab a few words and search for commentary etc. on your own. For example http://www.taxtyranny.ca/images/HTML...eldProject.pdf I had to gist this down to fit here in a post:

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Having read your email, I must say that you are full of questions. These questions I would dismiss immediately as being the frustrated attempts of fringe groups to bring a halt to the project, however these reports of biological material being part of the spray should be addressed. Therefore I will give as much attention to all of your questions as possible.


1. What purpose do polymer threads imbedded with biological material serve in this scenario?

Polymers are part of the mixture and they do form in threads and in `tufts'. The idea is simple and comes to us from the spider. As you may know spider webbing is very light, some newborn spiders spin a `parachute' to catch the prevailing breeze to travel far from their place of birth. Spiders have been able to attain high altitudes and travel great distances for long periods of time. Most of the elements used in the spray are heavier than air, even in their powdered form they are heavier and will sink quickly. Mixing them with the polymers suspends the particles in the atmosphere high above the surface for longer periods of time, therefore in theory we do not need to spray as often or as much material. Since the suspended particles eventually do settle into the lowest part of the atmosphere and are inhaled by all life forms on the surface there is an attempt to counter the growth of mold by adding to the mixture mold growth suppressants - some of which may be of biological material.

Mold comes in spores that travel on the winds; the polymers can attract mold spores through static charges created by the friction of the polymer threads and the atmosphere. Add a bit of warmth and moisture and mold begins to grow. The polymer is stored in a liquid form as two separate chemicals. When sprayed they combine behind the plane `spinning' long polymer chains (threads). Much tinkering has been done which the chemical matrix in past years. Many polymers (plastics) are non-biodegradable thus add to the problem of pollution. Various formula have been used, some which even use biological agents. It would be great if we could reproduce the same web material that spiders make, it is extremely strong, extremely lightweight and breaks down relatively fast in the ecology.


2. If this spraying is to mitigate global warming, why does so much of it take place at night?

Though it would appear that the dispersal rate of the spray is fast, it is actually takes much longer to be an effective shield. There is a desired concentration being sought. One that is thick enough to stem the UV and the Infrared, while being thin enough to allow visible light through. A perpetual cloud cover would have disastrous effects on plant life; the food chain thus disrupted would soon collapse. The desired effect wanted is a thin cover that would theoretically create a daytime haze that allows plenty of sunlight while providing protection. From UV radiation and also reflect enough infrared to maintain nominal temperatures.

The optimal condition is to use the least amount of material to provide the maximum amount of shielding. Ideally that would be a one-time application...

I would suggest studying on the subject of weather, namely highs and lows and how air moves to fully understand the times of spraying. I note, it is not...


3. What other military programs are in place involving the spraying of barium and what are their purposes? Do you know and understand the chemical make up of the element?

A little knowledge will go a long way to understanding the need to use barium: Barium is often used in barium-nickel alloys for spark-plug electrodes and in vacuum tubes as a drying and oxygen-removing agent. Barium oxidizes in air, and it reacts vigorously with water to form the hydroxide, liberating hydrogen. In moist air it may spontaneously ignite. It burns in air to form the peroxide, which produces hydrogen peroxide when treated with water. Barium reacts with almost all of the nonmetals; all of its water-soluble and acid-soluble compounds are poisonous. Barium carbonate is used in glass, as a pottery glaze, and as a rat poison. Chrome yellow (barium chromate) is used as a paint pigment and in safety matches. The chlorate and nitrate are used in pyrotechnics to provide a green color. Barium oxide strongly absorbs carbon dioxide and water; it is used as a drying agent. Barium chloride is used in medicinal preparations and as a water softener. Barium sulfide phosphoresces after exposure to light; it is sometimes used as a paint


12. When will spraying stop?

There are several factors governing this:

A. Should the Ozone layer repair itself or our active attempts at repair reduces the amount of ground level UV to acceptable levels, spraying will stop. Present calculations place this between 2018 and 2024.

B. Should another method be found which is more effective, less costly or presents us with long-term solutions the Shield project would be replaced.

C. When the other problems become too big to make the maintenance of the shield worth the effort. The estimated date for this is 2025 to 2050.

13. Since Global Warming and UV summer are the problem, why is the Government backing down on its pollution controls?

Because they are ineffectual and will cause more economic problems than they would solve ecological problems. We surpassed the threshold of Earth's ability to absorb pollutants in the 1970's. Since that time the earth's ...


[Near the end the source thoughtfully lists topics of study to better understand the Shield Project.]


G. Research how naturally occurring Ozone is produced in the stratosphere. Compare to how it is produced industrially.

H. Research political reforms in the past 30 years, see which political institutions have changed, which nations have joined with whom. Concentrate more on these from 1982 onward. This would include the fall of the Wall and Iron Curtain.

I. Research polymers and how they are made, look at recent research done in biological polymers, medical polymers and filaments.

J. Check out spiders and spider web and the way spiders use their different webs and threads.

K. Research clean fresh water estimates as compared to the 1970's to today - world wide.

L. Research the following medical conditions per capita: Birth Defects Cancers Leukemia Immune deficiency diseases (excluding virus borne ID illnesses such as HIV) Occurrences of Learning disabilities, including dyslexia, ADD, and over all IQ tests Sterility for both male and females world wide Instances of glaucoma and cataracts.

M. Compare the history of UV indexes from 1970 to present. You may note that it was on sharp rise until 1997-99.

N. I would strongly recommend researching the reactions of different barium and aluminum compounds and how they are used. Research how long it takes for these metals in pure form to oxidize, how they combine with nitrates, carbon monoxide carbon dioxide and fluorocarbons and hydrocarbons and water vapor.

O. Research how mold propagates, the conditions it needs to grow and just how abundant it is in the atmosphere.

If you pursue these lines of inquiry, you will see the Shield Project as it really is.

I was skeptical about chemtrails even existing at all. I remember when I was a child about six or seven watching a plane overhead and it seemed the contrail disappeared after only a few seconds but I was not sure I remembered it correctly. It certainly seems to me that the contrails are lingering a long time these days.

So I had an idea. Try this search engine and enter "vacation 1994". http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=...s=0 &itag=crv You will find a lot of people's vacation shots, mostly outdoors with sky backgrounds. Look through the years for longer lasting contrails in the sky.

For example, this photo is timestamped in the title August of 1990 and is obviously a digitized film style indicating it is authentic. http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/On...nt1990-08r.jpg and http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/On...nt1990-04r.jpg

And even better "chemtrails 1995" http://www.capetownskies.com/dane/de..._contrailb.jpg and look for dating in the title.

Mainly, let us know if you see lingering trails in photos that are prior to about 1998. Be careful because you will need to research into the photo first. There is no guarantee all the photos are of the search parameters.


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David Merrill.

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Old 06-19-2005, 01:51 AM
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http://www.capetownskies.com/dane/d...s_contrailb.jpg

I deduce scientifically, (artistically in this case) by the photos that in conditions where cirrus clouds are forming, then contrails being ice crystals formed by the airplane's engines and wings can grow too. Have you ever watched clouds form?

The problem is that in perfectly "dry" skies contrails are sustained these days. Since about 1999 like Cornicom observes in the video. This has been my casual observation in agreement with others in casual conversation.

It turns out Dr. Leonard Horowitz is an obscure author. But I have his book The Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse. I have read it, debunked it, and several times referred to it. It is a conglomerate of about all the conspiracy theories known to modern man. You might have to read it to know just what I mean by that. But it includes the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion and the Report from Iron Mountain on the Possibility and Desirability of Peace. Its basis however is the revelation granted to the co-author Joseph Puleo by his psychotomimetic delusions (or maybe a sham) that Jesus Christ visits him in the flesh as a man who drops by to instruct him. As a result of these visitations, Joey comes to several conclusions about Noah Webster, harmonics and mathematics that are simply untrue. Therefore I only appreciate the book for being a compendium of modern conspiracy theory.

The book summarizes a plan to control the rate of human population by injection of Human Mad Cow disease. There is the theory of prions (protien jacketed viruses) carrying a base crystal that gets into the human brain by breathing the chemtrails' products and that crystal can be activated by the HAARP and other radio signals bounced off the statosphere (ionosphere layer high in the sky) to certain populations, causing an out break of spongiform encephalopathy (holes in the brain/death by Creutzfeldt - Jakob's Disease).

Evaluating the above testimony from the USAF officer as true, in most part, that we have a serious radiation problem from the sun developing at this time I have come to develop certain things in my life. There is a formula for curing cancer in Heinerman's The Encyclopedia of Fruits, Vegetables and Herbs - St John's Wort. There are qualities of this tincture, which I add to skin lotion applied daily, that I truly appreciate. Mostly that the cancer-fighting ingredients are activated by sunlight. I have a new batch out on the sundeck now. [Used to take about a month to cure but nowadays I give it half that. It cures as you wear it in the sun.] So this fights cancer as you go out into the otherwise deadly solar radiation.

http://ecclesia.org/forum/images/suitors/Circuits.gif

The top circuit is designed to strip prions of their protien jacket. Then the immune system can rid the body of the parasitic viruses.

Same with this gadget:

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...ointSystem.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...Resolution.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...Resolution.jpg

And on the top of these things I might add that the center of Christianity is Judaism. Some of the wiser Christians seem to allow that the Laws of Moses were laid out for our benefit. These are called Messianic Jews, or Complete Jews. Not to abide in the law so much or preach to you but there is a custom that would seem applicable. The Feast of Unleavened Bread. Once a year the Jews feverishly rid themselves of yeast (parasites like viruses, bacteria, microbes, molds...). They clean their houses of the pest. They fast and drink its eradication formula, the excrement from the same, wine/grain alcohol. We find the Apostles falling asleep on Jesus in the New Covenant (Garden of Gathsemede after the Last Supper). The spiritual leader allowed the otherwise abstinant Nazarites to drink large amounts of wine.

There is even a custom of getting sloshed at Purim. Celebration of the Book of Esther.

Anyway about it; I do not buy into a conspiracy to depopulate the planet. However there may be elite forces who would like to see the planet saved for their exclusive use. [And if you can see some sense in that you have just joined up with the Illuminatti.] They would of course be influential in the United Nations, Council for Foreign Relations and international banking cartels. So maybe you would like to consume an "ounce of prevention" beforehand.


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Old 06-19-2005, 04:48 AM
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So maybe you would like to consume an "ounce of prevention" beforehand.


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Would 12 oz. of fermented barley soda qualify?



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"With the Mother"

That stupified me for a moment until I figured out it meant the "core". The seeds must be the "womb" of the apple and in parts called "The Mother".

Fermented barley soda sounds more fun when shared with friends on a warm summer afternoon with salad and BBQ.


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There is a lot of good info out on ozone. Ozone is simply 3 molecules of oxygen instead of the normal 2 molecules. The extra molecule gives it a positive charge and causes it to oxidize anything with a negative charge or anything that doesn't have protection from oxidation.

I built two different types of ozone generator. One uses an ultra violet light and a fan to blow room air around it. It does a good job until the bulb goes bad.

The other one uses a 25 kilovolt neon light transformer. The outputs of it are connected to 2 metal plates 6" x 12". The plates are separated by a piece of window glass 8" x 14". The metal plates are about an inch apart. When the high voltage is switched on, little blue arcs can be seen between the plates and you hear a sizzling sound. A fan blows air across the length of the plates to produce lots of ozone.

You could make an H2O2 (peroxide) generator from this too but I haven't gotten around to doing that yet. Peroxide is formed by bubbling ozone through water. I just buy food grade peroxide (35%) as I need it instead. I would make my own peroxide but I don't know of a cheap way to test the strength of it.

I think the talk about the depletion of the Ozone Layer is hype. Ozone is created when the sun's UV rays strike oxygen. The earth's atmosphere is mostly oxygen and nitrogen. I can't see how the ozone layer could be depleted unless the earth's oxygen becomes depleted or UV in the sun's rays becomes depleted.

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I am personally doing my part in cleaning the air. I have a Living Air Classic Ozone air purifier from Ecoquest and it never gets a break.(runs all the time).

If everyone had one of these or one of its Ion generating counterparts, we could oxidize ANYTHING in the air.
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Peroxide is formed by bubbling ozone through water.


I had no idea that is how peroxide is made.


It sounds like your ozone machine is constructed very similar to the one I have, but it sounds like yours might produce alot more ozone than the residential model I have.

- I also believe the talk about the depleting ozone layer is government propaganda and ecohype. If the ozone layer is truly depleting faster than it can be created, and ozone is created from oxygen, then wouldn't it make sense to plant more trees and stop cutting so many down?

I get so much junk mail all the time and it all requires paper to continually print all the garbage we receive and instantly throw away.

very interesting,
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