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Old 07-15-2005, 06:50 AM
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Toothpaste KILLS!!!

I found 532 MSDS sheets on sodium fluoride ( go here http://msds.ehs.cornell.edu/msdssrch.asp and type in sodium fluoride in the top search box).

The LD50 and toxic affects section shows the following:

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Health Hazards Data
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LD50 LC50 Mixture: ORAL LD50(RAT): 64 MG/KG
Effects of Exposure: INHALATION:IRRITATING TO MUCOUS MEMBRANES AND TOXIC WHEN
INHALED. SKIN:MAY CAUSE DERMATITIS IF EXPOSED TO DUST OR FUMES. EYES:CAUSES
EYE IRRITATION. INGESTION:SEVERE VOMITING, ABDOMINAL DISTRESS, DIAR RHEA,
STUPOR, WEAKNESS. ***POISON*** IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.
Signs And Symptions Of Overexposure: INHALATION: CHILLS, LABORED BREATHING,
FEVER, UNPRODUCTIVE COUGH. INGESTION: SEVERE VOMITING, ABDOMINAL DISTRESS,
DIARRHEA, STUPOR AND WEAKNESS. POISON IF SWALLOWED OR INHALED.

Now the LD50 represents what has been determined to be a lethal dose in 50 percent of the population tested (I hope they used rats - poor things)

An LD50 of 64 mg/KG means that if I weighted in at 100 KG a doseage of 6.4 grams would kill me 50% of the time.

So I checked the toothpaste ingredients which indicates the active ingredients are .25 % sodium fluoride. The tube weight is 168 grams (6.3 oz). Ok, so that means there is .445 grams of sodium fluoride in the tube and it takes 6.4 grams to kill me. I am safe. Whew, had me worried for a bit. However, doing the math working backward from the tube contents to calculate body weight we might find that this doseage will kill a kid 50 per cent of the time who weighs 7 kg or less who takes in the entire tube.

The directions on the package indicate "do not swallow". Now I would say that is an understatement! Minimum should be a SKULL AND CROSSBONES. That might tend to stifle sales though. Even the MSDS says this is a poison if swallowed.

Also, consider the "stupor" thing. Isn't that why people are saying the government is pushing fluoride in water. To make people more docile and easy to work with.

Comments? Cause of Action? Class Action anyone?
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:05 AM
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Thanx for the info, and the link.
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Old 07-15-2005, 10:59 AM
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I haven't used toothpaste for about 15 years. The only cavities I have are from 20 years ago. I use baking soda and peroxide only. Sometimes with each other but mostly I use the baking soda by itself. All I do is wet the toothbrush with water and touch the brush on the baking soda to pick some up.

Sugar causes cavities because the bacteria that live in your mouth consume the sugar too. They produce an acidic by-product though. The acidic environment softens the the tooth enamel allowing other micro organisms to break it down causing the cavity.

Baking soda is a water softener (aids cleaning) and is alkaline which neutralizes acids. Peroxide is a natural whitener and kills bacteria.

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Old 07-15-2005, 11:20 AM
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Alternatives to fluoride are probably a good thought. I also heard brushing several times with oregano oil has some good affects.

One other point I didn't make though is that fluride is still being disposed of in drinking water.

http://www.curezone.com/dental/fluoride.asp

http://www.fluoridealert.org/

http://www.slweb.org/fluoridation.html

http://www.rvi.net/~fluoride/
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Old 07-15-2005, 12:48 PM
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Yeah, the drinking water thing is something I haven't been able to get by unless using a filter helps. I see that the filter actually seems to filter out chlorine. I did a before and after test. Before filtering, the water contained 1 to 3 ppm, after the test it contained none that was recognizable by the test.
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Old 07-15-2005, 02:32 PM
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Toothpaste

Thanks for the info and the link. In my house we just switched over to Tom's of Maine, they make a fluoride free toothpaste. They also make a natural deoderant that I started using. I was turned off to the fact that my former anti persperant was stopping me from sweating by packing Aluminum Dioxide into my sweat glands. From what I understand it is basically unusable Aluminum that is ground up and put into anti persperants. Coincidentally all "tested" Alzheimers patients have been found with Aluminum in their brains. One other reply talked about Chlorine in the drinking water. We have a water filter on our shower because a "nice and hot shower" will open all the pours in your skin allowing the Chlorine easier access to your body and over time that can lead to cancer. I could find the link to the shower filter if anyone wants it. It was not my intention to get off topic, but they seemed to flow together.


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Old 07-15-2005, 03:12 PM
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There are supposed to be water filters out there that do remove both chlorine and fluoride. We just bought one several weeks ago that has the option of having an add on filter for these. I didn't buy it because we are on well water. In farming country our main problems are nitrates and herbicides getting in through ground water.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:43 PM
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I use Burt Bee's toothpaste. It's made with all natural stuff.
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Old 07-15-2005, 07:49 PM
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I use Burt Bee's toothpaste. It's made with all natural stuff.

So do I. Is this a coincidence I wonder?
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Old 07-15-2005, 10:24 PM
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We use Tom's of Maine, Burts Bees, and other personal care products from Neways.com. And we have flouride filters on our drinking water and filters on our shower heads. I grew up with a water well and except for the minor problems with rust and calcium, which can be filtered, I would love to have one again.

Also, if you use aluminum based anti-perspirants, you increase your chances of developing breast cancer, as the lympth nodes cannot function properly and your pores cannot expel toxins.

Also, check your shampoo ingredients and try to avoid Propylene glycol and Sodium laural sulphate. These ingredients are used primarily in Industrial lubricants and hydraulic fluids. Check the label of your shampoo and then check the label on your antifreeze. Who wants to bath in antifreeze?!

Its crazy to think that the FDA does NOT regulate personal care products; but that CAFTA is trying to censor and controll health supplements. Does everyone have their collodial silver makers yet?

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