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Old 09-09-2004, 03:45 AM
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I posted this on a foreclosure thread but i thought it would be most appropriate here:



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<font color=darkblue face=tahoma>The following information is taken mostly from a book entitled "Allodial Title Via Land Patents" by Joe Stevens, M.S. Sui Juris

I will first transcribe details of the process as described in the book, then I will list various court cases in support/defense of the patent as true allodial title.

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<div style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;">How to Do It</div><table id=MYTABLE valign="top" border="0" cellspacing="4" cellpadding="0"><tr><td valign="top">First </td> <td valign="top">

Procure the legal description of your piece of ground.

If you do not have it, you can get it at the assesor's office, or at the nearest title company. </td> </tr> <tr> <td valign="top">Second </td>

<td valign="top"> Find the address of your BLM office. (check here) </td> </tr>

<tr><td valign="top">Third </td>

<td valign="top">Send your properties legal description, along with a blank signed check on which you have written "not to exceed $20" and a request for a certified copy of the original land patent for your legal description. It will usually be for 160 acres but you will patent only your legal description. Remember, that must be a certified copy. If yours is not certified, do not use it. It will invalidate your patent and you will think you are protected but if you had to go to court to defend it, you would lose.

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<tr><td valign="top">Fourth </td>

<td valign="top">When you get the certified copy of your original land patent use it to fill out the 'assignee's update of patent' form [I'll try and get a sample uploaded shortly].

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<tr><td valign="top">Fifth </td>

<td valign="top">Take the completed unsigned 'assignee's update of patent' to the nearest notary and have it notarized. Make sure every one who has an interest in the property has signed the update (ie your wife/husband/partner). Those with a fiduciary interest (ie bankers, speculators etc.) will find out when you send them your notice that you have updated the patent on your property. You should execute a trust agreement with your lender so his interests are protected.

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<tr><td valign="top">Sixth </td>

<td valign="top">Take the signed, notarized update of patent, the certified copy of the original land patent, and your decaration of homestead (optional) to your county recorder's office and present it for recording. This will cost about $20 to $40 depending on the number of pages you have and the number of pieces of property you have (only one declaration of homestead per person).

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<tr><td valign="top">Seventh </td>

<td valign="top">Go to the local paper and publish a notice for three days running of what you just did, along with a legal description of the property. This will suffice as notice to all who have equity interest in your property. There are a lot of fools out there tat are going to read this and immediately attempt to steal their neighbor's land. On the surface it appears that you can do just that. However, when you research the law, one of the areas that a land patent can be attacked is via fraud. Fraud vitiates anything it touches (that means nullifies) and then you come under common law and that is a jurisdiction that you cannot hide from. There are two rules that a sovereign must abide by:
  1. You cannot infringe on the rights of another sovereign.
  2. You must keep all contracts that you enter into knowingly, intentionally and voluntarily.

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<tr><td valign="top">Eighth </td>

<td valign="top">Make a copy of the forgoing documents and send them to everyone who has an equitable interest in your property (you will hear some anguished howls but after their initial consultation with a knowledgeable attorney you won't hear anything. They can't win but you can be assured they will pray for your continued prosperity so they get paid on time). Now, if your lender is astute and he's not a corporation he will already have filed his patent which you will get when you pay off your ground. I would also strongly suggest that you make arrangements with the holder of equity interest in your ground for him to take silver or gold instead of FRNs. You have then paid off your debt, not satisfied it with limited obligation. That is what you do when you use FRNs. Then there can never be a question about your patent for there will be no mistakes nor fraud and it will be paid in lawful money (gold or silver).

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<tr><td valign="top">Ninth </td>

<td valign="top">Wait ninety (90) days until your patent is perfected and re-record the front page of your update of patent. Just a little insurance to be sure the servant doesn't futz with the document.

If your recorder is honest and smart you will have no troulbe and he will record your paperwork. The law does not give him the right to make a legal determination of what to file and what not to file. That is the court's duty. However, if he does question you, ask him:
  1. to showin your state's code what his job is. Point out to him the law (it's the same in every state or close enough for government work). If he still does not record your documents, then
  2. demand a copy of his surety bond and
  3. the name of his insurance carrier for that bond

Inform him that it is CYA time because you intend to file a claim with his insurance company against his bond. A lot of them are duped and don't know they are being used. At this point he is going to start hollering for risk management. This is when risk management usually caves in. Some may be obstinate and continue to fight but eventually they can't handle the pressure. If risk management gets stubborn you can also file against their surety bond too. When the insruance company, who looks at it dispassionately, tells them that if they continue they will lose and lose big, they capitulate. You might also inform the recorder of what the consequences are when he loses, which he will do, because the law is on your side, even in their own kangaroo courts. Those consequences are a loss of deductible. If the loss is big enough he loses pension, benefits, and eventually if it goes so far that he is convicted of denying your constitutional right, he loses his job, house and the whole nine yards. Oh yes, you get the house and assets, so it is worth pursuing.

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<tr><td valign="top">Tenth </td>

<td valign="top">Make copies of your land patent and post it in all four corners of your property. You are telling the world that this is a sovereign's castle.

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<div style="font-size: 20px; font-weight: bold;">How to Defend It</div>

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"An estate of inheritance without condition, belonging to the owner, and alienable by him, transmissable to his heirs, absolutely and simply, is an absolute estate in perpetuity and the largest possible estate a man can have being in fact allodial in its nature." [Stanton v. Sullivan. 63 R.I. 216 696 (1839)]



"unless fraud is shown, this rule is held to apply to patents executed by the public authorities." [State v. Hewitt Land Co., 134 p. 474, 479 (1913)]



"legal titles cannot be conveyed except in the form provided by law." [McGarrahan v. Mining Co. 96 U.S. 316 (1877)]



Note: When the word law is used it means common law. Our courts today are not law, but equity or admiralty which has no jurisdiction over a sovereign unless the soveregn acquiesces. Challenge the jurisdiction of every court you enter because if you don't you freely give away all of your God-given rights. If you are of the mistaken opinion that the governments, or courts, were instituted to protect your rights, and does protect your rights, then you have another thing coming. If the government and courts did fullfull their proper and only function we would not be in the mess we are in!



"legal title to property is contingent upon the patent issuing from the government." [Sabo v. Horvath, 559 p. 2d 1038, 1040 (aka. 1976)]



"that the patent carries the fee and is the best title known to a court of law is settled doctrine of this court." [Marshall v. Ladd, 7 Wall. (74 U.S. 106 (1869)]



"a patent issued by the government of united states is legal and conclusive evidence of title to the land described therein, no equitable interest, however strong, to land described in such patent can prevail at law, against the patent." [Land Patents, Opinions of the United States Attorney General's office, (Sept. 1869)]



"a patent is the highest evidence of title, and is conclusive against the government and all claiming under junior titles, until it is set aside or annulled by some judicial tribunal." [Stone v. United States, 1 Well, (67 U.S. 765 (1865)]



"the patent is the instrument which, under the laws of congress, passes title from the United States and the patent when regular on its face, is conclusive evidence of title in the patentee, when there is a confrontation between two parties as to the superior legal title, the patent is conclusive evidence as to ownership." [Gibson v. Chauteau, 13 Wall 92 (1871)]



"congress having the sole pawer to declare the dignity and effect it's titles has declared the patent to be the superior and conclusive evidence of the legal title." [Bagnell v. Broderick, 38 U.S. 438 (1839)]



"issuance of a government patent granting title to the land is 'the most accredited type of conveyance known to our law'" [United States v. Creek Nation, 295 U.S. 103, 111, (1935)]



"the patent is prima facie conclusive evidence of title." [Marsh v. Brooks, 49 U.S. 223, 233 (1850)]



"a patent, once issued, is the highest evidence of title and is final determination of the existence of all facts." [Walton v. United States, 415 f 2d 121, 123 (10th cir. (1969)]



"a patent to land is the highest evidence of title and may not be collaterally attacked" [State v. Crawford, 441 p2d 586, 590 (ariz. app. 1968)]



"the land patent is the highest evidence of title and is immune from collateral attack." [Raestle v. Whitson, 582 p.2d 170, 172 (1978)]



"patents rights to the land is the title in fee." [City of Los Angeles v. Board of Supervisors of Mono County, 292 P. 2d 539 (1956)]



"the patent is the fee simple" [Squire v. Capoeman, 351 U.S. 1, 6 (1956)]



"and the patent is required to carry the fee" [Carter v. Ruddy, 166 U.S. 493, 496 (1896)]



"it is the largest estate in land that the law will recognize, a fee simple estate still exists even though the property is mortgaged or incumbered." [Hughes v. Miller's Mutual Fire Insurance Co., 246 s.w. 23 (1923)]



"state statutes that give less authoritative ownership of title than the patent can not even be brought into federal court." [Langdon v. Sherwood, 124 U.S. 74, 81 (1887)]



State courts have no jurisdiction over land patents!



"the congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States." [Constitution of the United States of America, Article IV, Section III, Clause II.]



One of the latest cases in Michigan [Klais v. Danowski, 337 Mich. Reports 1964, Michigan Supreme Court] held that, based on the supreme law of the land, patents to land were not cut off by the subsequent creation of the state and that the state has no jurisdiction on the patented lands.

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<font color=darkblue face=tahoma>Weis and others with case cite access:



I would LOVE it if we can systematically verify the cites above. I know its a lot, but if we can perhaps do a few just to make sure the author is on point, i'd feel much better.



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<font color=darkblue face="tahoma" size=3>Check out this website: http://www.landrights.com/[/color]
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More great info... and timely too !



Another BIG thumbs up BT...



Thank you once again !...



BT's on <font color=red>FIRE [/color] !!



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P.S. Cites (unverified) taken from a link on the site BT posted... (was cut/pasting anyway.. )





Legitimate national obligations (compliance with international treaties and extinguishment of Indian occupancy) have been discharged so that national "interest" in the property can be quitclaimed;



The courts held that the operation of a patent as a deed was of the nature of a quitclaim to any interest as the United States possessed in the land; Beard v. Federy, 70 U.S. 478, 3 Wall, 478, 18 L.Ed.88.



A patent to land of the United States constituted a full conveyance of title out of the United States; McArthur v. Brue, 67 So. 249, 250, 190 Ala. 563.



The issuance of a patent divested the government of all authority and control over the land; Moore v. Robbins, Ill. 96 U.S. 530, 24 L.Ed. 848.



A patent passes to the patentee all interest of the United States, whatever it may have been, in everything connected with the soil and in fact everything embraced within the meaning of the term "land"; Damon v. Hawaii, 194 US 154, 48 L.Ed 916, 24 S.Ct. 617; Energy Transp. Systems, Inc. v. Union P. R. Co., (DC Wyo) 435 F.Supp 313, 60 OGR 427, affd (CA10 Wyo) 606 F2d 934, 65 OGR 576; Moore v. Smaw, 17 Cal 199; Hamilton v. Badgett, 293 Mo 324, 240 SW 214; Crawford Co, V. Hathaway, 67 Nob 325, 93 NW 781 (ovrid on other grounds Wassburger v. Coffee, 180 Neb 149, 141 NW2d 738, adhered to 180 Neb 569, 144 NW2d 209.



That all disputes concerning possessory rights have been adjudicated in (State) court;



For example, Section 34 of the Mining Act of May 10, 1872 (concerning challenges to an application for patent) states:



"It shall be the duty of the adverse claimant, within thirty days after filing his claim, to commence proceedings in a court of competent jurisdiction, to determine the question of the right of possession, and prosecute the same with reasonable diligence to a final judgement; and a failure so to do shall be a waiver of his adverse claim. After such judgement shall have been rendered, the party entitled to the possession of the claim, or any portion thereof, may, without giving further notice, file a certified copy of the judgement roll with the register of the land office, together with the certificate of the Director of the Bureau of Land Management [that federal statutory requirements for labor, description and fees have been met] whereupon the whole proceedings and the judgement roll shall be certified by the register to the Director of the Bureau of Land Management, and a patent shall issue thereon for the claim, or such portion thereof as the applicant shall appear, from the decision of the court, to rightly possess..."



That any statutory requirements of "proving up" and paying any claim fees have been met.







Once requirements are met by the claimant, issuance of a patent is not discretionary.



Once the federal patent requirements are satisfied, and there is no question of legitimate national interest in respect to treaties or trusts, the BLM is compelled to issue a patent to a claimant in rightful possession. For instance, Pittsburgh-Pacific Corporation applied for patents to a dozen claims in the Black Hills National Forest, upon which it asserted a discovery of iron ore. At the request of the Forest Service, the Bureau of Land Management challenged the existence of a discovery. When the contest came before the Interior's Board of Land Appeals, the State of South Dakota participated and argued that the Bureau must prepare and environmental impact statement on the patent application. The board held the EIS was not required because patent issuance is not discretionary once Mining Law requirements have been met. [United States v. Pittsburgh-Pacific, 84 I.D. 282, (1977); Confirmed South Dakota v. Andrus, 462 F. Supp. 905, D.S.D.(1978); aff'd. 614 F.2d 1190, 8th Cir, cert. denied 449 U.S. 222 (1980.)]







Once a land patent is issued, it stands as the highest evidence of legal title.



A patent to land is the judgment of the Land Department and the conveyance of the title in execution of it to the party adjudged entitled, and, when the land described was in the jurisdiction and subject to the disposition of the Land Department, it is impervious to collateral attack; Neff v. United States, 165 F. 273, 277, 91 C.C.A. 241.



A patent is recognized as the highest evidence of title, conclusive against the government and all claiming under junior patents or treaties until it set aside or annulled by some judicial tribunal; United States v. Mullan, 10 F. 785, 792; Bayner v. Stanly, 13 F. 217, 223.



If other parties possess equities superior to those of the patentee, a court of equity will, on proper proceedings, enforce such equities; but in an action in the federal court in which the legal title is involved, the patent when regular on its surface is conclusive; Redfield v. Parks, 10 S.Ct. 83, 88, 132 U.S. 239, 33 L.Ed.327.



After issuance of a patent, any subsequent claim of the United States to titles therein or other disputes between private claimants must be determined by the courts; U.S. v. McKenzie County, North Dakota, D.C.N.D., 187 F.Supp., 470 affirmed Murray v. U.S., 291 F.2d 161.



Suits to cancel a patent could only be brought within the statute of limitations, except for actions brought by the U.S. government (1) to recover the value of lands fraudulently obtained; (2) to construe and enforce a patent as construed; and (3) to impress a trust of the lands for the rightful owner - U.S. v. Whited, 38 S.Ct. 367, 246 U.S. 552, 62 L.Ed. 879; Issac Walton League of America v. St. Claire, D.C. Minn, 55 F.R.D. 139, affirmed 497 F 2d. 849, certiorari denied 95 S.Ct. 329, 419 U.S. 1009, 42 L.Ed.2d 284.



The expression "patent," used in Act of March 3, 1891, Section 8, 43 U.S.C.A. Section 1166, requiring suits to annul patents to be brought within six years after issuance, means a grant of land from the government. (United States v. La Roque, 198 F. 615, 648, 117 C.C.A. 349.)



A suit to cancel a patent must be brought by the United States, and, unless by virtue of an act of Congress, no one but the attorney general or someone authorized to use his name, can initiate the proceeding, (U.S. - U.S. v. Throckmorton, Cal. 98 U.S. 61, 25 L. Ed. 93.)



A patent conveying land which was a part of the public domain cannot be attacked or impeached by a person having no interest in the land, (U.S. - Roberts v. Southern Pacific Co., 185 P. 934, affirmed 219 1022, 134 C.C.A. 685; see also Issac Walton League v. St. Claire.) Such a patent is subject to impeachment only by the United States, or its grantee, (Idaho - Johnson v. Hurst, 77 P. 784, 10 Idaho 308,) or a person who has succeeded to its rights, (Utah - Ferry V. Street, 7 P. 712, 11 P. 571, 4 Utah 521,) or by a person who was defrauded or deprived of his rights by the issuance of a patent to another, (Cal. - Mery V. Brodt, 53 P. 818, 121 Cal. 332.).



A slightly different quote of Summa than yours above...



"if it is not in the patent proceedings {Patent proceedings consist of the patent and the acts of congress that are on the patent} it shall be barred" Summa v California; 466 U.S. 198 (1984)



If your U.S. Land Patent has no such covenants, then :



"Owner is free to do with his property what he wills, absent criminal intent, constitutional limitations, or liability for tortuous activities in connection therewith. "Michael ANNUNZIATA v Larry MILLER; 241 NJ. Super. 275" (Feb. 14, 1990)



The only place covenants, reservations, conditions and conditions can be put on the land is in the land patent. All others are a collateral attack on the patent. "U.S. v Coronado Beach. 255 U.S. 472. ( Decided March 28, 1921)





U S v. DETROIT TIMBER & LUMBER CO., 200 U.S. 321 (1906)



This is a good case for for land patents. This is the start of many cases to come.





Stella Hughes v. State of Washington 389 US 290 (1967)



The U.S. Land Patent prevails over State Constitution. Property rights are paramount. Not only does the U. S. Constitution protect property rights but, the laws of the Federal Government do also.





SUMMA v. CALIFORNIA. 466 U.S. 198 (1984)



This case is very strong on the U.S. Land Patent. "must have been presented in the patent proceedings or barred". Patent proceedings consist of the patent and all the acts of congress mentioned on the patent. All patents have one or more acts of congress. If you have viewed the land patents in this cite you would note, they have many covenants. These patents can be used as exhibits. If your patent has no covenants then. "Owner is free to do with his property what he wills, absent criminal intent, constitutional limitations, or liability for tortuous activities in connection therewith". (214 N.J. Super. 275. Feb 14, 1990) The covenants run with the land. But only those that are in the patent proceedings.





California Oregon Power v. Beaver Portland cement. 295 U. S. 142 (1935)



This case has to do with the Desert Land Act. Under the Desert Land Act, As the owners of the public domain, the government possessed the power to dispose of land and water thereon together or separately.





U. S.v. Coronado Beach Co, 255 U.S. 427 (1921)



This patent like all patents can not collaterally attacked. It is spelled out it "can not be changed from the original".





United States v. James Jim 409 U. S. 80 (1972)



Jim explains several things about the land patent.





CASS COUNTY, MINNESOTA, ET AL . v. LEECH LAKE BAND OF CHIPPEWA INDIANS



This U. S. Supreme Court case will take some time to read and comprehend. This is a thought-provoking land patent case. Chances are when you finish reading there will be some unanswered questions. You may want to read the Summa v. California 466 U. S. 198 (1984). "must have been presented in the patent proceedings or be barred".





United States v. Beggerly No. 97-731 (1998 )



The news media has kept this one quiet. This has to do with land in Louisiana. Beggerly applied for a copy of the land patent, to Horn Island he had bought at a tax sale from the state of Louisiana in 1950. He paid $51.20 for 625-acre tract. The B.L.M. did not come forth with the Land Patent to the property. The court ruled against Beggerly. Later Beggerly pressed the issue of the land patent. It was finally found. He opened the case, presented the patent to the court. the first case was over ruled in his favor. The patent was issued prior to state hood. The State acquired NO jurisdiction over the land at the time the Territory became a state. The treaty was in place. Treaties prevail. Now irony of this story is that the state of Louisiana had laid a, unlawful tax on the land, The land patent is a contract between the patentee and the U.S. "Article 1 sec 10 shall pass no Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts"



So the short of the story is, if an heir to the person who lost the land to the State of Louisiana comes forward and files ejectment action in federal court Mr. Beggerly could lose the island.

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1). Will my standing as a tax-donating, corporate termite prevent me from successfully defending my patented land?



2). Will my status as participant in a knowingly fraudulent home "loan" prevent me from successfully defending my patented land?



3). Are there any other ramifications as of yet hidden to me, given my state of relative slavery, and user of many "benefits" offered by BB?



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  1. Your corporate persona isn't who is obtaining and defending the patent. YOU are. Legal Titles (titles to "persons") cannot be conveyed save for an explicit provision in law:



    "legal titles cannot be conveyed except in the form provided by law." [McGarrahan v. Mining Co. 96 U.S. 316 (1877)]




  2. Nope.



    "it is the largest estate in land that the law will recognize, a fee simple estate still exists even though the property is mortgaged or incumbered." [Hughes v. Miller's Mutual Fire Insurance Co., 246 s.w. 23 (1923)]




  3. More than likely. But the Law is on your side. Just keep studying!



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[color=black][b]I put in a motion for a 4th star to BT. Give the kid a soda while your at it, too.
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<font color=darkblue face="tahoma">HAHA. . .thanks, Weis, but don't be so quick to give me any stars, I'm still waiting for you to help verify some of those cites! haha.



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[color=black][b]The only new one I am aware of is the one you

referred to in the Lexis Thread:Schomig v. Kaiser, 189 Cal 596.

Are the remaining ones in the Land Patent thread?

List any that are not those in the Lexis thread if you are not able to verify them yourself on findlaw. Man , we're chippin' away like Sha-Shank!
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Here's something you guys should check out.



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Here's a challenge: read the documents for your property. Try and find a single indication that the land itself was purchased. I beleive you'll find and explicit clause in your Grant Deed that states the land is GRANTED.



Land can be gifted, conveyed, devised, etc.



The person gifting, coveying, or devising the land is called the "grantor" ... that doesn't mean that the land is "granted" ... most deeds say something along the lines of "Grantor, in consideration of" some sum ... the "in consideration of" some money value means that the person received money for the land (in other words, it was purchased.)



Just because the word "purchase" doesn't appear in a deed doesn't mean that the land wasn't, in fact, purchased. Look to the purchase agreement.
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