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Old 01-02-2007, 08:42 AM
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Oregon Realtor Fights Foreclosure

Hello Suijuris Friends!

Not sure if this is a "success story" or not...

I recently met a realtor here in Oregon who started learning all about the unfair lending situation regarding new money creation, sovereignty, devaluation of currency, etc.

He tells me he stated learning these things about three years ago...

So his wife told him he could do whatever he wanted with fighting off their debts, as long as they "kept the kyacks."

So apparently, he put his home "in a trust." He tells me that his two trustees are in jail (on bogus charges) at the moment, so his home is "safe."

He later told me his two trustees were released since they had "nothing on them."

Apparently, he is being sued or foreclosed on or what have you, but his case has been "sealed," so that he is not even allowed to turn his pleadings in to the court clerk, they have to be sealed and delivered straight to the judge. Even the clerks aren't allowed to know this information...

He says there are "certain particulars" that "they" don't want getting out, as to why his case has been sealed.

The factors which make it impossible for him to be foreclosed on seem to be the following:

1) Banks fraudulently "lend" no money, and in addition, they make 9 times the amount of money they "lent" you; ergo, this is fraud and misrepresentation, no disclosure, etc. (ie, if they lend you $100,000, they turn it into nearly $1,000,000).

2) Banks fraudulently change the face value of your promissory note when they send it to the Fed to be monetized. He states they actually cross out the amount of your loan request and write the amount they will ultimately be loaning out (ie, you request 100,000; they cross it out and write in $1M). This is supposedly why they can never produce the original contract in court, as it is illegal to change the face of a contract after it has been signed.

And the one I find most interesting (and would like more information on):

3) It is against the law (or the Constitution, I am unclear on what he was stating here) to interfere in a contract between two "sovereigns." I THINK this statement may be in regards to a third party debt collector. When I asked him if he was a sovereign citizen, he replied "no."

The most interesting thing is that he said this case was originally posted here on the suijuris website, but then it got "pulled." (????) Apparently, he says the information was too powerful to "let it get out," even here. He says "the Fed" (or some other governmental agency) made it get pulled, since "they" monitor all content. (Is this true?)

Does anyone know anything about this case (ie, was it ever here on the suijuris website as he stated)?

And lastly, does anyone know what he means by "it is unlawful to interfere in the contract of two sovereigns?"

This is one of the people I feel nervous calling on the phone (might be tapped, of course we are all tapped)...

Thanking you in advance...

-- Siren

P.S. He also says if we buy land we need to ALWAYS get a well in for our own water, since FRANCE is buying up all the water rights here in the USA. Is this true, does anyone know?
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Old 01-02-2007, 01:02 PM
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...Apparently, he is being sued or foreclosed on or what have you, but his case has been "sealed," so that he is not even allowed to turn his pleadings in to the court clerk, they have to be sealed and delivered straight to the judge. Even the clerks aren't allowed to know this information...

Believable....

He says there are "certain particulars" that "they" don't want getting out, as to why his case has been sealed.

The factors which make it impossible for him to be foreclosed on seem to be the following:

1) Banks fraudulently "lend" no money, and in addition, they make 9 times the amount of money they "lent" you; ergo, this is fraud and misrepresentation, no disclosure, etc. (ie, if they lend you $100,000, they turn it into nearly $1,000,000).

Perhaps they do it on one's presumed authorization or assent fractionalization--power of attorney.

2) Banks fraudulently change the face value of your promissory note when they send it to the Fed to be monetized. He states they actually cross out the amount of your loan request and write the amount they will ultimately be loaning out (ie, you request 100,000; they cross it out and write in $1M). This is supposedly why they can never produce the original contract in court, as it is illegal to change the face of a contract after it has been signed.

Perhaps power of attorney again. The fraudulent concealment issue perhaps also raises its head here. That x 10 might be fractionalization or something.

And the one I find most interesting (and would like more information on):

3) It is against the law (or the Constitution, I am unclear on what he was stating here) to interfere in a contract between two "sovereigns." I THINK this statement may be in regards to a third party debt collector. When I asked him if he was a sovereign citizen, he replied "no."

The most interesting thing is that he said this case was originally posted here on the suijuris website, but then it got "pulled." (????) Apparently, he says the information was too powerful to "let it get out," even here. He says "the Fed" (or some other governmental agency) made it get pulled, since "they" monitor all content. (Is this true?)

Does anyone know anything about this case (ie, was it ever here on the suijuris website as he stated)?

Ive noticed more than once when really 'sensitive' type information got posted to SJ that there were crashes that deleted content for a period of perhaps 24 hours or so.

And lastly, does anyone know what he means by "it is unlawful to interfere in the contract of two sovereigns?"

Third party inferference with contracts. Privity. Torts. Tortious inferference..etc.

This is one of the people I feel nervous calling on the phone (might be tapped, of course we are all tapped)...

He probably is watched.

Thanking you in advance...

-- Siren

P.S. He also says if we buy land we need to ALWAYS get a well in for our own water, since FRANCE is buying up all the water rights here in the USA. Is this true, does anyone know?

Rain water collection is probably far better.

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