New to the Redemption Process

[suijuris]

"I don't know exactly what you mean " to act like Sovereigns". At some point don't you have to "do" something. I haven't filed taxes in 3 years. Someday I'm going to hear something from the IRS. Don't I have to send them something telling them that I don't feel that I'm required to pay taxes, and for them to show me the law/code that requires me to pay taxes. "

First, you should base your actions on what you know, not what you feel. What you feel can be a good indication that investigation is needed, but nothing more.

If you are accused of something, on whom does the burden of proof lie? The accused or the accuser?

Sui Juris

[wirlwind]

Sui Juris,


I guess I should have said that I am not required to pay taxes.& So if I should get a letter form the IRS then I would respond&and ask them to show me the tax code that requires me to pay taxes.& (I don't know the exact tax code- but I have it at home)& In other words, the burden of proof is on them to prove to me that I am required to pay taxes.&


What if they don't go away?& What if they start levying on my house or bank accounts, etc.?&


I guess I sound scared and to be perfectly honest with you, I am.& Because if the IRS and BB are anything at all they are unfair, and the laws don't seem to apply to them.


Wirlwind

[suijuris]

"What if they don't go away? What if they start levying on my house or bank accounts, etc.?"

The key is to take the measures to secure your property before hand. That is what a sovereign would do.

What do you mean by "levying on your house"? Is your house paying you something that can be levied? I would presume you intended to say "seize", not levy. I would secure my home with a land patent to remove it from their assumed jurisdiction. You should do this in any circumstances, the IRS is just one of many organizations that can remove you from your home if you have not taken countermeasures.

Bank accounts? I do not place anything in a bank account that I cannot afford to loose. There are methods of securing bank accounts from levy but I consider it easier and effective to simply to limit my exposure instead.

Sui Juris

[wirlwind]

Is Johnny Liberty's book on land patents a good scource to guide you through the process on getting a land patent?& Will it take you through the process step-bystep?& Is it basic enough that a newbie (and not such a bright one at that)&will understand it?& I have a set of tapes by Johnny Liberty that&I probably need to go back and listen to again.& I got them about 3 years ago and so much of the stuff that he talked about on them was totally greek to me then.& They might make more sense now.&


Thanks,


Wirlwind

[suijuris]

I recommend his book, it is the best resource I have seen on land patents.

Sui Juris

[Ice]

wirlwind,


You're getting there.& The first thing is to take responsibility for ourselves and our actions.& And, in regard to our actions, know the consequences of our actions so that before we act we have the ability to deal with those consequences.


The big truth is this: YOU ARE KING.& They must come before your throne and lay the proof of a thing at your feet.& If they cannot, then your servant, the judge, will order them to begone from your royal presence.


The trick is knowing that you're a King and knowing how the King directs his servants to perform the tasks assigned to them.& There may be a couple different ways to accomplish that... but, it is my belief that we really don't need to do a lot of those processes being "sold" these days.


The best advice anyone could give is: Know the Law, Know the Court.& Hold any accuser/asserter to his strictest proof of claim UNDER THE LAW.


And Jerseee would add: Never Argue.


Ice

[Jerseee]

Damn right!

Have you ever heard of a king having and argument with a servant?

Hi All,

Nuther newbie here.

I was hoping someone here could clear up a question I have about "redemption".

I have never seen a definition of what "Redemption" actually is, and what the steps taken are trying to accomplish.

Is is getting out from under the presumption that the State created fiction is also the Man/Woman. Being able to control your fiction? Or maybe it is getting abck to being able to clear yourself of the "contracts" made with the system- and being able to assert your rights as a sovereign and put the servants back in their place.

I have also seen here someone state redemption doesn't work- yet the processes here seems to encompass alot of the same things. UCC, capturing the fiction through copyrights and such.

Forgive me for being so ignorant- it's just hard to start a journey without know what the destination is. In fact the only thing I do know is that after reading through a 200 page binder on the subject(s), I'm still confused- AND my firearms are now very very clean. :wink:

[FreeBird]

Redemption is, in a sense, to be given new life. I studied "A Course in Miracles" for one year before I started the process to become free. But, in my humble opinion, it is not about NOT honoring debts or obligations.
In all ways a Sovereign must respect the life, liberty and pursuit of happiness of others by NOT doing things which will prevent another from enjoying them, and doing those things which will ensure his/her own rights to those self-same objectives.
It IS about calling unscioniable contracts for what they are and finding your way toward doing what you were brought here for - what is your Life's Purpose? As you get closer to comprehending what you are supposed to do with the Treasure (watch: Wizard of Oz, National Treasure, and NT2 and all three Matrix movies) and eventually you will "get it," then you will start to be directed toward humans who can help you.
Although churches are part of the 'corporate' world, finding one that will help you in your spiritual growth will be another brick down the road you want to follow.
Once you start down the yellow-brick road, you will earn the courage, the heart and the wisdom to make your way back to Kansas... it is not easy, but it is worth it.

[FreeBird]

When you KNOW WHO YOU ARE, you know the only thing/entity that is bigger than you is God, the God of your understanding. The Lord is the only maker of laws for the sovereign.
Any man or woman who needs to feel 'big' might benefit from reading "A Course in Miracles" which addresses ego issues very well.
This is also a great learning tool for comprehending what the process of redemption is really about.
You can read the Course on line - type in ACIM and see what pops up.