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Old 08-09-2007, 04:31 PM
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Presently experiencing signature oppression from both local zoning officiating as well as health board officiation concerning property use in Greene County, OH.

We sold our homes which were paid off in exchange to start an orphanage,library,seamstress shop, farming projects, widows fund, as well as specific sponsorship abroad, leaving us living very simply in a motorhome which was mysteriously burnt to the ground February 2, 2007 immediately after exposing fraud in our local magistrates concerning false allegations against the agricultural land use and structures.

Presently we are experiencing perpetual threats, economic sanctions, repeated cease demands as well as search warrant practices leaving us presently under great duress.

It is my opinion that added resources are needed to overturn these apostacies. I am a new member of this forum and am requesting your support. I have a great need. And am gracious to all who agree and that are willing to walk together....

I am a living, breathing creation of God and I am unable to deny Him and what I Am become!
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Old 08-09-2007, 04:48 PM
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The entanglement present at large is more than I am capable, neither willing to afford. The weights and burdens that our fellow man is capable of placing upon our fellow man without lifting a finger to relieve can be confounding. The essence of our fellowship in Christ is an enduring substance that is in great jeopardy daily and subject to great peril.

I afford this opportunity to ask.. where is the son of man to lay his head? I rise up to address the madness of this world in itself. Prepare me to slay the Dragon!

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Old 08-09-2007, 05:26 PM
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We purchased 10.5 acres zoned agriculture, it's a warranty deed property and land use is presently accepted by state legislature as an accepted agricultural land use for apiculture. We started a business to create a cash flow that would continue to propigate further assistance to the more desperately needed. We have verbal obligations and committedness to the humanitarian projects that we started. We've never pursued fund raising prospects or received sponsorship of any kind, therefore we have done that which was impelled upon us knowing that we were created for every good work. We had exhausted most all our monies, and it might seem that we have been singled out predjudiciously becouse of our present economic status.

Many complaints from the high falutant propriety assuming their highest and best use of realestate should be their castles and commercial kingdoms.

My wife and two daughters have exchanged the lives of luxury to travel in a ministry capacity for 13 years enduring quite sufficiently without running water or utilities. We have all taken 'navy' bathes out of a sink bowl with satisfaction that we might become greater availability to serve our fellow man, reducing our expenses and costs of living.

The scriptures depict a mandate to take up your cross and follow me...... To labor not for the temporal but for that which endureth unto everlasting life.....

This defaction from the mark of the beast, the conflict and this present monumental event is inscribed to every true believer, I being one with them and a partaker of that tribulation....

To perservere, to endure unto the end, and forbear hardness as a good soldier are ordered steps for a righeous man!

The family of God are all points taken, the effectual ministry of every believer is the acceptence of the specific ministry talents and resources raised up upon occasion to Glorify God..

In faith, I believe that this battle is of our Lord, Jesus Christ, the Righteous One..

Who can make war with the beast? Is not our Lord capable to make war with the beast and prevail? I again appeal to the family of God to rise up upon occasion to ministry function and talents unlimited by His Spirit, with Power to accompany the Army of our King..

All these days of being ostrasized, and cast away from the conventional churches, natural families deficating upon our principals , making a spectacle of our love to God. We have suffered and is required as such, but consider the benefits of knowing Him and walking forward for Him.

I wait upon His command! and every armor bearer...

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Old 08-09-2007, 10:57 PM
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That's terrible jeff! You try to do a little good and get alot of pain.

Have you thought about finding a paralegal to help with the research and forms or help finding forms? You can find places on the net that will do paper work pretty darn cheap.

The reason I even bring it up is because, from what I see, you got a long road ahead of you. Sounds like you don't want or like lawyers, so a paralegal who isn't giving you "legal advise", but doing research to help you might be in your favor.

Another place for research, is your states law library. You should be able to do searches on the net also for information. I have emailed them in my state, and they charge a small fee here, but your's may be different. The fee was very small, couple dollars to find me some cases.

This is just my opinion, but for what you have invested and are having problems with, you need to know what is going on and not following someones lead on a deal like this.

Perhaps you trying to go a completely different route here, I guess I wasn't clear on what you wanted to do. Sorry. Hope this may help, or atleast give you something to think about if you are in need of help and want to avoid lawyers at all cost. Good luck, sure hope things get worked out for you.
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Old 08-09-2007, 11:09 PM
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This link might be helpful.

http://georgegordon.org/
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Old 08-10-2007, 08:29 AM
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This link might be helpful.

http://georgegordon.org/

George is a good one.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:55 AM
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Thank-you mrg and Freedomless for your initial provision. I've reviewed George's web page and this may become an asset to pursue.

Apparantly I'll have to contact George to discover what his actual fees might consist of.... are they relatively affordable and have you used his resource collectively or rather personally? How did it benefit you?

I have received some private contributions as far as books and personal advice/ (not legal advice) rather early in this growth stage, any other comers that might direct the course of this venue?

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Old 08-10-2007, 11:04 AM
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Goffertrap makes a good report that resource contributors such as paralegal assistants would be probable if I knew any.

Presently, I have a good repore with the legal librarian locally at the county municipal court facility whereas she would be helpful but not a paralegal.

University Legal Law library has been my stomping ground these days but thus far no personal assistance to date or rather few..

I'm believing that there is security in a multitude of counselors yet I am listoning for the right voice and appraisals..

Thank-you for your response with open eyes and listoning ears....

Stategy so far has merely become refuting the false allegations committed against me and said property. It has only infuriated the governmental administrators to come in by force with search warrants to establish proof of which there is none by my opinion.. A good stategy might be..?

JW

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Old 08-10-2007, 02:46 PM
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Jeff:

Here are a few services you could look into if you like. Man, with what you have invested, and what you have to lose, you will probably need all the assistance in research you can find. I don't know what is charged on these, or even if it would be something you are looking into, but, hope it may help out if you need it. Some of these may be of no help whatsoever, but I listed um for ya anyway:

Ohio Legal Services:
http://www.ohiolegalservices.org/

Ohio Legal Rights Service:
http://olrs.ohio.gov/ASP/HomePage.asp

Southeastern Ohio Legal Services:
http://www.seols.org/

Ohio Forms:
http://ohio.gov/forms.stm

The Affordable Legal Eagle:
http://www.affordablelegaleagle.com/

Legal Eagle may be something very helpfull with your matter. Good luck Jeff, and hope things turn around for you.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:58 PM
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Goffertrap,

Checked out all these web pages you provided and there are some resources there that have some interest to them but others as you said are probably useless. Let's talk just a bit so that we don't waste any too unnecessary time or energy.

All these things in life often occur for an excellent reason. Rather than shurk my responsability, I will rather face it! Instead of running the other way or choosing an attorney etc., I'd rather face my adversary well versed, readily prepared.

"Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies; thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over." Psalms 23:5

Overcoming the fear and ignorance, aquiring the knowledge with experience, tasting the composure in confidence; these are the ingredients that I am after....

I was just reading some very interesting incitements from Alfred Adask's writings. The opportunity to place commercial liens (CLS) upon public officials that fail to uphold their oath of office and maintaining the eloquence of our Constitution. There has to be ways to bring these public servants down from their haunty heights, and proud looks of Tyrany.

"For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works; in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double." Revelation 18:5,6

I will spend the time and energy, with whosoever would help, to equip me to the battle front, that I may inflict those of whom are not capable of representing truth!

To get back to the thread, originally we were demanded to get off our own property for occupying a motorhome. That agency was the local zoning dept. that made these threats.. They consequently telephoned the local health dept. both agencies working as one.. This invoked added allegations originally referencing sanitary septic systems, lack of sufficient water on the property etc.

Without a legal file or a motorhome in question, fire seeming to solve these delemnas.. for them....now again I have their incoming shells and battle preparations relative to two distinct offices or rather agencies working as one..with new allegations and added threats....

Presently the zoning dept. demands 'cease and desist' from continuing to build a pole barn without aquisition of a permit. (significant economic sanctions attached) of which are $500.00 fine misdomeanor with independant charges for each day thereafter 15 day neglegant of permit aquisition.

Ohio State Revised Code (ORC 519.21) states: Prohibition of agricultural uses limited confers no power on any township zoning commission, board of township trustees, or board of zoning appeals to prohibit the use of any land for agricultural purposes or the construction or use of buildings or structures incident to the use for agrucultural purposes of the land on which such buildings or structures are located. Furthermore, no zoning certificate shall be required for any such building or structure.

My experience is minimal in legal affairs, so might I ask a few simple questions..hoping for opinions but not legal advice.. Because local governing officials deem the essay that their articles and codes created abrogate State and Federal Laws.. Am I a dummy to believe that?

Am I going crazy or might I ask another plain old question. They say I have to have a permit when State Law says " Furthermore, no zoning certificate shall be required for any such building or structure".

Are zoning officials, local lower level magistrates who have their own agendas, aren't they subject to Federal, and State Legislature restraints? Or am I truly losing my mind? Everyone thinks I'm guilty because I won't obey them...... Am I going crazy or what?

Enough about the zoning issue.. I'll comment on the Health dept. issue next reply...

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