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Old 04-30-2008, 06:39 AM
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Notorial Dissent:
Sorry. Guess I didnt get it. Like I said, Im just a beginner trying to find the way.

Mr. Merrill:
I thank you for the time and understanding in your reply. I have always been what Alan Nation calls a "Sheeple", but my hubby has taken the last 7 years trying to undo that. Problem is, its mostly stuff he has heard, and I get to do the research! I have come across a couple websites peoples-rights.com and libertyForLife.com. Got any recommendations?
Thanks again for your time. It is truly appreciated!

Ann


Source material.

The remedy to pledging yourself and your possessions chattel was written into the 1913 Fed Act. It is in full force and effect today but without reference to lawful money being directly attached to gold and silver. First read §16 of the Act and understand that the charters for the Fed banks expired in 1933 (20 years). FDR made it illegal to turn in your elastic FRNs for lawful money - that is inelastic gold based currency - US notes or better yet the gold; The Bankers' Holiday they called it.

http://Friends-n-Family-Research.inf...ot_dollars.jpg

And so Title 12 U.S.C. §411 was amended to only include US notes - as defined by Congress. FRNs are only redeemable in lawful money because your endorsement bonds the expansion of the money supply by fractional lending. That extra money created "out of thin air" as a lot of patriots consider it, is actually backed by a first lien by the Treasury on anything you "buy" with private credit from the Fed. Elastic currency. Think about it - elastic currency with no bond would be counterfeiting by government. The people and their property became the bond when the US government convinced people through our own conditioning that we no longer have remedy.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...1----000-.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...000-notes.html

There it is though - still in full force and effect. You can still redeem those stock certificates in the Fed - FRNs in lawful money - US notes but since 1971 they look just like FRNs. However, the paycheck you cashed for them was not endorsing private credit; non-endorsement. The bank calls it restricted endorsement sometimes but usually will not give you any troubles.

However between a number of 'suitors' and on the Internet, I have gathered quite a few anecdotes of the banks, particularly US Bank going through various gyrations to convince people this is not what the law plainly means. And of course Shoonra, a retired law librarian with current subscriptions to all the cool information suppliers has constantly tried to tone down the fact that FRNs are not lawful money, as they shall be redeemed in lawful money on demand...

Good thing people who think can figure that out.

Simply put. If you purchase a shirt with private credit from the Fed the Treasury holds a first lien position on that shirt because you never paid it off. If you lose an administrative dispute with the IRS the Fed will place notice Notice of Federal Tax Lien on the shirt to let all interested parties know if you try selling it, there is a first lien on it by the Treasury. (see attachment)

But if you walk out of the bank having redeemed lawful money, then whatever you purchase is lien free - allodium. It is really that simple. I suggest you might use the simpler:

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Redeemed in lawful money pursuant to Title 12 U.S.C. §411

True Name dba First M. Last

but the verbiage in my video works very well over the counter with most bank tellers.

http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/convincing.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...06869308133588

Open the text file and read it along while the video plays the 1984 Freedom League article on the computer voice.


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David Merrill.
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It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html
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Old 04-30-2008, 08:43 AM
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Simply put. If you purchase a shirt with private credit from the Fed the Treasury holds a first lien position on that shirt because you never paid it off. If you lose an administrative dispute with the IRS the Fed will place notice Notice of Federal Tax Lien on the shirt to let all interested parties know if you try selling it, there is a first lien on it by the Treasury. (see attachment)

But if you walk out of the bank having redeemed lawful money, then whatever you purchase is lien free - allodium. It is really that simple. I suggest you might use the simpler:





Regards,

David Merrill.


This goes right along what I said in the HR192 thread that's going on. The in personam debt is paid. The in rem (property acquired) does not get paid because you do not have full title without payment. You Can not pay with FRN's only discharge the debt. The claim to the substance of the debt remains forever. or until payed with lawful money or offset with some other substance
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Old 04-30-2008, 09:34 AM
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That would be a NO. Texas declared independence from Mexico in 1836. It maintained both independence and its borders until 1845 when it was annexed into the United States. In 1846 war was declared and from 1846 to 1848 the US and Mexico fought over the southern border. Mexico lost and ceded control over what is now CA, NV, UT, AZ, and small western parts of NM and CO. The southern bits of AZ and NM were purchased from Mexico in 1853 under what is known as the Gadsden Purchase. Side point, in the treaty itself, Article X guaranteeing the protection of Mexican land grants was deleted by the US Senate.
Thanks Nd, I stand corrected.

However, there still remains considerable debate as to whether the annexation was procured lawfully, as such was done through an act of Congress rather than by treaty, since Texas was supposedly a sovereign nation.

Additionally, it is questionable whether Texas was sovereign, since it simply seceded itself from Mexico. Its interesting how the US can acknowledge the secession of territory from a foreign sovereign, but twenty years later deny that right when it itself is involved.

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Pay for things in lawful money and you own them. Allodial title. That is when there is no higher title than the owner's title.

What I think you are doing is looking for a paper to prove you own the land in allodium. Absence of any higher title than your ownership and usage it allodial title.
David, of course you are correct here, but it is the proper paper trail that proves the ownership. Lawful money perfects its allodial character.

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Old 04-30-2008, 10:18 AM
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David, of course you are correct here, but it is the proper paper trail that proves the ownership. Lawful money perfects its allodial character.

gldskr


Indeed so. Once you are paying for things instead of discharging them with private credit from the Fed, then it helps to know the proper charters and land grants.


http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation1.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation2.jpg
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...probation3.jpg

In Shoonra's International Bar Association - City of London version of history where the Magna Charta could have been nullified by the Pope, the Declaration of Independence was nullified as an internal memorandum of the Crown. However in common law, where we laymen are expected to rule on the law as well as facts (jury nullification to Shoonra's ilk) in assize, townships, hundreds, parishes, Frank pledge etc. I am party to the Declaration of Independence as a quiet title that King George III chose to raise a ruckus about and lost. I have laid claim to the God-given unalienable rights and as one suitor searched it, I am the twelfth man to do so since 1776.

http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety1.doc
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety1.mp3
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety2.doc
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety2.mp3
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety3.doc
http://friends-n-family-research.inf...leSociety3.mp3




Regards,

David Merrill.
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Originally Posted by Shoonra
It is worth noting that the fealty to the Pope, which you cited for its explicit mention of the Templar abbey in Dover, is the legal basis for the invalidation of the Magna Carta after it was sealed at Runnymede.
During discussion about the Treaty of 1213 and the Magna Charta (1215).

http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/medieval/magframe.htm
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/john1a.html

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