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Old 05-25-2005, 11:58 AM
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at the website for one of the counties near me it actually says "Vacant or Inventory" under Property owner's name... just so happens these are under Mobile Home properties. I've got a call in, right now actually ;) to the county (she returned my call as I started typing this hahaha) to find out specifically what the inventory part means.

In a different county I have found that a lot of land that has no buildings on it is owned by the Cities. Curious about that too. Some counties are harder to look up than others.

I have been looking at NETR online http://www.netronline.com
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Thanks a lot juststartingout. I just got back from the city assessor's, and they had never heard anyone ask about abandoned/unclaimed prop. Foreclosures yes, abandoned no. I didn't really come up with anything, just some phone numbers for city peeps associated with property, who i'll call later. but the experience gave me hope that there may still be some property left in san diego that's not claimed.
JSO - when you have a 'success story' be sure to post it here.

In a similar vein (getting prop for cheap?), I'm looking into probate sales, where I understand that estates sell for below market value. This market has been tapped for at least 20 years, so I'm not sure how many peeps are into it, but I think its still unexplored enuf for me to make a little money.

i just tried to email the guys at eclesia, and the website says they're not really answering emails anymore. that sure doesn't help.
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after my conversation

with the contact at the assessor's office, these properties I am finding that say vacant or inventory are manufactured home properties that the owners have abandoned. Here's where I am getting confused:

The land is supposedly owned by the manufactured home community - but listed on the assesor's information the property owner is "vacant or inventory". why wouldn't it list the mobile home park's property owner as the owner? are they (the owner) not liable for paying property tax? or does it have to do with the fact that the property tax is not on the land itself and just the property ontop of the land? I would swear that I read in my state's statutes that land a couple of months ago is included in property taxes.

i looked up a friend's mobile home in a different county and it has only their name on it. in this initial county I am investigating, the lots that are not vacant have only the mobile home owners as the property owners. The vacant lots list what is owed for property taxes.

have I confused everyone else or made it too difficult for myself? off to search the state's statues on mobile home parks and property taxes.
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Thumbs up Different route

I found some land in an entirely different county that appears to be vacant. I have found calling the assessor's office to be beneficial. They are very nice and don't mind answering my questions. Just a little hint ;)
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JSO - can you post the sites for the counties you've been searching? maybe they'll give me an idea of what to look for, so I can find something similar for san diego.
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I can post them, but haven't come up with much :( sad to say. The lots that didn't have any owners listed - turns up they were vacant land bought by a realtor. I haven't pursued the land with the mobile homes on them. Isn't worth my time really.

This is the one with the mobile homes - Type in some single digits in the House# and it will pull up saying "vacant or inventory" on some of them.
http://www2.co.washington.mn.us/opip//

Click on "property information...." link here. You have to use the map to zoom in. The land that I found I had clicked on City:Isanti on the far right of the page and then zoomed in. Then, just to the right of the town line on the map, there were some parcels that I found by clicking everywhere that had no info but the PID (parcel ID number) with it. I called the Assessor's office and they had to do some research to see if it was vacant for me. They said to feel free to call back if I have any more questions http://www.co.isanti.mn.us/depart.htm#assess

This county - I found some many parcels that said they were owned by the various cities. Haven't figured out what that is all about yet. Click to search by the "owner name" and you can then type in owner name to search by. Most assesor sites do not have this option :( Go to mappoint and look up Scott County, MN to see the cities that are in MN and you can type in the city name and you will see a lot of land owned by the city. More than I have found in other counties. Raises some red flags. http://www.co.scott.mn.us/intradoc-c...OPERTYTAX_HOME
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found some vacant, abandoned property today

In fact 2, maybe 3, of them We went on a family outing and weren't looking for such and we happened upon 3 of them. One even has a sign in the window from the mortgage company saying that the property is vacant! That the owners up and left!. Can we go anywhere with this????? I'm thinking we can't but need some confirmation here.
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[b]What is preventing one from just straight bulldogging it & throwing a land patent on it?{b]
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Old 06-05-2005, 03:38 PM
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Patents don't work that way Weis.. if a thorough search is done on the land, one would probably find that a patent has already been issued and then you would be requirred to work within the parameters estblished by the law that initiated the original patent.
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