Title to Property.

[hardtoremember]

I have a REAL ESTATE question... not LAND (just to clarify).

In my research I believe that the STATE holds the title to your "property" (the HOUSE you are living in). For example: THE STATE OF UTAH is the holder of the title to my house.

My questions are... Does anyone agree with this? How do I gather evidence of this? WHAT is the evidence?

Thank you for any feedback,

HTR

[Jerseee]

Originally Posted by hardtoremember

I have a REAL ESTATE question... not LAND (just to clarify).

In my research I believe that the STATE holds the title to your "property" (the HOUSE you are living in). For example: THE STATE OF UTAH is the holder of the title to my house.

My questions are... Does anyone agree with this? How do I gather evidence of this? WHAT is the evidence?

Thank you for any feedback,

HTR

Good question HTR,

Title to something does not equate to ownership. title to something signifies that someone has an interest in the titled thing.

the fiction of government cannot own anything---thus, the reason for land patents/grants. Only people can own anything. Land is real and people are real--government is not real.

This is just a sneaky way for local, state, and federal fictions to try to have jurisdiction so they can complete the fraud of property tax and any other violation of your privacy.

This is not to infer that anyone resort to lawlessness. this is to imply that we the people need to put government and government officials back into their place. PUBLIC SERVANTS.

do some research on land rights and who can own land (people or government) and start thinking like a King. You'll be amazed at how powerful you really are--yet humbled by such authority.

Good question.

[wisper]

[quote=Jerseee]Good question HTR,


[the fiction of government cannot own anything---thus, the reason for land patents/grants. Only people can own anything. Land is real and people are real--government is not real.]


If a fiction, i.e. a corporation, can't own anything, how does the U.S. own or act as agent for the Bangsters on BLM land ? How did Summa corp, in the case mentioned in these forums? How about Railroads, or telegraph co.s.

My concern is that I am in the process of updating a patent signed by Woodrow Wilson the the RR and heirs and assigns. Consequent owners have been corporations as well, and I want to update the patent to my family trust.

[hardtoremember]

Thank you for your reply Jerseee. I actually am very aware of what you mentioned above... it has been an exciting yet infuriating rabbit hole I have gone down learning about the land patent and owning land. I will have my own land patent in place soon.

What I am running an experiment on is finding that "false" title by way of following the money (taxes) but I get stumped on the phone and in person. I guess I am being a little lazy in trying to find that "title" and I am looking for some insight from anyone who may have run the same sort of experiment.

I am very aware now of LAND and LAND OWNERSHIP in the matrix... I am simply now trying to learn about real property and property ownership in the matrix... there is a point I will be making when I get those questions answered hopefully in the near future.

With Respect,

HTR

[Jerseee]

[quote=wisper]

Originally Posted by Jerseee

Good question HTR,


[the fiction of government cannot own anything---thus, the reason for land patents/grants. Only people can own anything. Land is real and people are real--government is not real.]


If a fiction, i.e. a corporation, can't own anything, how does the U.S. own or act as agent for the Bangsters on BLM land ? How did Summa corp, in the case mentioned in these forums? How about Railroads, or telegraph co.s.

My concern is that I am in the process of updating a patent signed by Woodrow Wilson the the RR and heirs and assigns. Consequent owners have been corporations as well, and I want to update the patent to my family trust.

Wisper,

We have provided case law here to support you. All of this is done because of your consent. You grant jurisdiction. You do so unknowingly or through their tricks. If you keep in mind that you are your own government and that they need to prove their claim---you should be fine.

Remember, statutes and codes are not law. Case law is the law--it has already been decided.

[Jerseee]

Originally Posted by hardtoremember

Thank you for your reply Jerseee. I actually am very aware of what you mentioned above... it has been an exciting yet infuriating rabbit hole I have gone down learning about the land patent and owning land. I will have my own land patent in place soon.

What I am running an experiment on is finding that "false" title by way of following the money (taxes) but I get stumped on the phone and in person. I guess I am being a little lazy in trying to find that "title" and I am looking for some insight from anyone who may have run the same sort of experiment.

I am very aware now of LAND and LAND OWNERSHIP in the matrix... I am simply now trying to learn about real property and property ownership in the matrix... there is a point I will be making when I get those questions answered hopefully in the near future.

With Respect,

HTR

HTR,

Hold those that are doing unscrupulous acts against you personally accountable for their actions. Anytime anyone acts outside the scope of their duties is called ultra vires. Sue them in their personal capacity. Public Servants are not in the business of stealing, making legal determinations, offering legal assistance, or to trick you into thinking that code and statutes are the law.

[wisper]

What is a *false* title

[hardtoremember]

"false title" is what I mentioned above.

Based on your (what is *false title*) I can probably predict that you are associated with some sort of function that deals in "real estate".

To explain "false title" in MY OPINION.... let me clarify MY OPINION based on my own personal research....

The reason I call it "false title" is that as others in their own research have found... there is NO TITLE to PROPERTY... many confuse this with LAND... I am in NO WAY associating this with LAND... ONLY REAL ESTATE and/or PROPERTY.

Let me give a couple of examples that may make sense to some. Your vehicle... when you "own it" you have a "certificate of title" which many have established is NOT TITLE, but a CERTIFICATE OF TITLE. I dont think I need to go into detail on that... it seems self explanatory... if I need to go into detail... let me know and I can and will.

Now... to go deeper into the helucination... when you pay off your "mortgage" and you "own" your house.... then it only seems reasonable that you should have the "title" to what you paid off... right? Well.... similar to the fraud of your vehicle.. you have in different terms ... a CERTIFICATE called a "deed of trust released... and a RECONVEYANCE that the LOAN HAS BEEN SATISFIED" These words arent perfect.. but it is basically what MOST get once they have paid 4 or 5 times the amount of the amount of money they "borrowed". However, as we all know.... if you do not pay your "property taxes" then you can be kicked out of what you just paid five times the amount of off.....

So... to answer your spiteful question of "what is *false title*....


Read the above and realize the matrix and scam that we are in....


have you ever bought a piece of gum... not chewed it enough and had it taken away from you? Have you ever purchased an airline ticket and been asked to leave the plane in mid flight because you did not pay the pilot an extra 5 bucks because he asked. Have you ever been kicked out of a hotel room that you paid for because you did not tip the bar tender at the hotel club? All of these examples to me seem the same as purchasing REAL PROPERTY and expecting to get fully what you paid for without anyone giving you guff about expecting EXTRA and taking it way from you for absolutly NO GOOD REASON.

With respect,

HTR

[hardtoremember]

Sorry about the "spiteful" I added above... I was in a bad mood last night :P