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Old 07-24-2005, 08:36 PM
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Land Grant?

These were by the king before Land Patents. I need to know if these can be used as land patents can.

Can I do the land patent assertion on a Land Grant?

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Old 07-25-2005, 05:29 PM
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I have heard that a land grant is similar to a land patent in that the paper represents an offer of whatever is being granted (land in this case) and there has to be an "act" to accept the grant. Otherwise it is simply an offer hanging out there in space. In the case of the land patent it would appear that simply recording the paper is enough to indicate acceptance.

Here is what the state of Pennsylvania enacted to accept a grant from the U.S. in 1863:

http://www.libraries.psu.edu/speccol...n/palndgrt.htm

And here is one from a state that turns down land grants:

http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/july_2003/oregon.htm
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Old 07-25-2005, 06:13 PM
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Actually, I am more interested in knowing what states recognize land grants from king George. (Pre-revolutionary war)

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Old 07-26-2005, 05:04 AM
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I believe the answer to that question is all of them. Under the treaty of paris of 1783 the grants that were in place were all considered valid. See article 5.

http://www.classbrain.com/artteenst/...ticle_33.shtml
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Old 07-26-2005, 06:56 AM
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Thank you Palani.

That is the first link in the chain that I am looking for.



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Old 07-27-2005, 07:19 AM
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Good Explanation

Just found this:

http://www.teamlawproductions.com/ph...wtopic.php?t=3

This pretty much sums up how it works.

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Old 09-19-2005, 12:56 AM
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Land Grant?

Can any one tell what a patent assertion is? Is that like a (conveyance) deed? Thanks 2501
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Old 09-19-2005, 04:32 PM
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Hypothetically, couldn't a sovereign merely declare a land patent, describe the land, name the land and then vest it in themselves or someone else?
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Old 09-25-2005, 10:59 AM
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... lay sovereign claim to the LAND in metes and bounds. ... all defenses are terminated after seven years most are terminated after 90 days.
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