Land Patent Instructions

Has anyone actually used a Land Patent succesfully themselves to stop foreclosure, or other debt collection processes? I have read case law that goes both ways on this, and I think we are all trying to determine more from experience than theory what really works. Especially anyone who is over a barrel and needs a solution yesterday... I am ALL ears.



Thanks, everyone.

[Ice]

Ya know... asking the way you did... I gotta say NO. BUT, I do know of a woman that was foreclosed on, kicked off her property ( after they had destroyed many personal items ), and got her property back. From what I understand she has actions against the Sheriff for "specific performance". She went through hell, but triumphed in the end. I don't know very much about the situation . . . it's been about a year since I had the chance to speak to her. . . and didn't get a whole lotta detail initially.



I do believe that she used the "Johnny Liberty" book as the foundation for learning about asserting her rights in the land patent.

[weishaupt1776]

There is a lot of misconception about the land patents. They are issued to
convey land from the government who holds them in trust to the People.

If you get a record of you land patent then file a claim to it in the county
recorders office. See my file on that "landpat.txt" if I am not mistaken in
L.zip. You can obtain a copy of the patent in two ways. Search the land
records in your county back to the patent, or send a letter to the BLM in
Washingtoon, District of Criminals, oh, did I misspell that, well I am
notorious for that anyway.

File your claim as a assign to the patent in the county recorders office and
the patent will be updated in your name. That doesn't mean there will be a
new one, just a claim to the old one as a public record. There used to be
land offices where the chief there was authorized by the president to sign
his name to the patents, then they were recorded in DC before statehood.
After statehood the county recorders office land records took the place of
the land office as now the state issued the patents.

Most of the patents claim more ground that you own as they were either
Donated Land Claims, Given to Vets after honorable service, homesteaded or
sold outright. Any land acquired by the state then resold to the people are
sold with new patents.

Therefore you must use your property discription and only claim that which
you have a lawful right to claim, in other words don't claim the whole
subdivision as it is described on the patent, only your lot. Make sure you
use your property discription in your claim or it would be fraud.

When there was more land than the People could use they leased the rest to
logging companies, ranches, RR and others on 99 year leases. Most of these
leases came due in the last 50 years or so for renewal, but it was very
quiet
and most People never knew about it or they would have cried bloody murder.

Don't buy expensive packages as there are a lot of charletons selling
expensive claims and telling you that you have to make the government issue
a new patent in your name. This is balogna. They will say you have to
record it with BLM and that is BS, too, you just file it in the land office
which is now the country recorders land records like a deed. Make sure the
assessor gets a copy and tell him if he doesn't take it off the rolls that
you will sue him.

Pay any land taxes under protest, then sue for return if you get where they
are going to take the property if you don't pay. Pay then sue, they are
criminals and will take your land, I have seen it happen before. They send
out the swat team and run you off. If they can't get you off the land they
will sell it and then the people will occupy it with the aide of the sheriff
and a restraining order.

Use the administrative proceedure on the assessor and default him, then go
to court to enforce your judgment, if necessary. When you pay under
protest, in the memo portion of the check write: Paid Under Protest, Under
threat, duress and coercion (see fraud statutes for your state and reference
to it). It is a fraud to force a signature on a instrument and a check is
an instrument, but the people allow the criminals at the county to get away
with it, thinking they owe it. Your criminal legislature did it while you
slept along with the rest of the gang, but of course, we owe to ourselves
right? That is what we pay the sheriff for, to run people off their lands.

[Fed-Up]

My family has 19 acres located in Cranston,RI The local DEM thugs have restricted the use of it, invoking some enviornmental crap about the fact
that "wetlands" are "protected"

My question is:

Will a properly filed land patent that was described above get us off the hooks with the various statist thugs as to what we can do with our property?
I'm still waking up to the many options I apparently never knew existed....

John 8:32.....

Thanks for any insights

Mike

[Don]

Look back at some previous forums, the process is well defined for obtaining your patent. Don't forget you must use an affadavit to top your land patent sandwich.

The patent works well to stop new problems, but I'm not sure about issues that have already been brought up.

Ice is your man on this subject. My land patent did what I needed it to, by keeping my property from being taken by the local gestapo for thier own purposes by emminent domain.

Protect yourself by using a Patent.

Originally Posted by Don

My land patent did what I needed it to, by keeping my property from being taken by the local gestapo for thier own purposes by emminent domain.

Protect yourself by using a Patent.

I'm curious - what was the reason the government gave under emminent domain? Was it a new road or something like that?

all property has an original title from the government. this is a LAND PATENT and it already exists.
take your assessors parcel number to the bureau of land management and have them look it up on the MASTER TITLE PLAT. if they don;t know what that is get the supervisor. it is their job to keep these title records.
there will be a number for your property, it may be for a larger area your property is in. write it down and get the phone number for the main BLM in your state, you clal and pay a few dollars on a credit card to get them to send you a copy of the land patent that already covers your property. ask them to send the act of congress that authorized the land patent. this is free but the cerk may not know that.
now you must post the corners of your property with a sign saying you calim your rights int he land patent. these rights include things like not being accountalbe for local land use laws, taxes, etc.
POSTING THE PROPERTY IS NOTIFYING ANYONE THAT YOU ACCEPT THE CONTRACT WITH THE GOVERNMENT MADE IN THE ORIGINAL LAND PATENT.
the only legal restriction s on your property ownership are those stated in the land patent or in your deed. no other may legally apply.

say the county is hassling you about zoning. claiming your land patent protection invokes protections against zonign restrictions at the time you do it and notify then and my county who operates like the mafia only nastier, dropped the stuff they were trying to do to me when they got my notice of land patent rights.
but they have tried to harass me other ways, like erasing my property records from the county computers (which show a zoning right to a kennel permit sign off for free) then do warrant-less searches and cite me for not haivng a kennel permit. (i can go by zoning rights if i choose to, they can;t void them because of my patent, and i can calim my rights by what ever basis they exist, or not)

they were trying to double bill me for permit fees (which i paid befor ei knew aobut the land patent) and make me move off my property, all was dropped when i invoked th eland patent, BUT they do not provide anything to show they did, and lack of documetns means other departments can not be shown proof of this and may apply laws and write citations that you must attach in federal clurt.

as for georgia, land grants are land patents, all early property grants are updated in land patent numbers. if land was granted by the king of france , that is the original basis of the land patent number that is current in records.

even though my land had a railroad patent, i can claim rights from the treaty of guadalupe hidalgo that granted this section of the united states from mexico.

if a church has land, it is already covered by a land patent. new land patents are only granted for land held by the government granted into private ownership for the first time.

if clerks in offices say no documents exist, keep asking for supervisors until you find the person who knows where they are and provides what you need. ALL land has title documents, no exceptions. even public land has title documents that shows it is state or federal.

[Bill Smith]

[quote=onemaster]Has anyone actually used a Land Patent succesfully themselves to stop foreclosure, or other debt collection processes?[quote]

No, land patent defenses always fail. More moonshine. Not a useful strategy.