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Old 03-31-2006, 08:16 PM
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Communists don't believe in private property.

Socialists don't respect private property.

Monarchs think private property is fine as long as it all belongs to them.

The latter statement also applies to bankers.

Democracies believe that all sheep ought to be shorn.

Republics can be kept under control if there are enough arms and they are 'well regulated' ; i.e., shoot straight.

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Old 04-01-2006, 03:27 AM
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Land Title was historically the most significantly tracked
private property known. Up until the 1940*s, when you acquired a parcel of Land
in The United States of America, you received the complete set of transfer
documents from the Land Patent to the present, with the Land Patent on the
bottom and every transfer document between its issuance to your present Deed
signed and sealed on the top, wrapped in hide, velum or parchment to secure
that such documents would endure. Today people know next to nothing about Land
or land rights and trust their Real Estate Agent and Title Company (with its
attorneys) did everything right when Escrow closes issuing their Warranty Deed
and Title Insurance policy.

[...]

You may remember from the Supreme Court case last cited above, the state
legislatures cannot even pass statutes that regulate or control Land transfers
or land ownership. But, the property appurtenant to land is definitely a
different matter. Such property can be bought sold and traded at will and such
transactions can be set in commerce, which can be statutorily controlled. Such
transactions are called, *Real Estate Transactions*. Real Estate statutes are
completely different from Land Law, which is why Real Estate Agents, Real
Estate Attorneys and Title company agents are not typically educated in Land
Law.

To so educate such Real Estate professionals would be counter productive
to the banking industry and mortgage providers and their requirement for Title
Insurance protection in all such transactions.


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Old 04-01-2006, 05:30 AM
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Having done quite a bit of property work it is clear that the writer of the above drivel really knows next to nothing about property law, estates, tenure, and the passing of property.

Kinda sad to think that anyone would rely on the above screed.

The concept of habeas corpus has been absorbed into the Bar, a group of private attorneys and the concept of allodium is considered a fraudulent claim within the statutory system from which Brian speaks.

Sadly, what Brian says can be proven true by the actions of deputies seizing a home on a tax sale somewhere every single day. That of course makes the nature of de facto - correct, right. Having the guns.

I propose the money system is where these things have been absorbed. The Grand Register following the Civil War destroyed allodium as it was itself destroyed. The counterfeit estate consists now of replacement names, money and land. De-convolute the convolution if you want a glimpse of how to acquire these things in true form.


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Old 04-01-2006, 06:39 AM
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can the Forum member say "conspiracy"?
It could be or not.
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Old 04-02-2006, 04:52 AM
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true allodialism

lets get back on topic, shall we?

if you want to post allodialism references, commments, articles that is fine, but lets not turn this into another peanut gallery
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Old 04-02-2006, 09:08 AM
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Very well...

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Originally Posted by 1856 Bouvier's Law Dictionary

ALLODIUM estates. Signifies an absolute estate of inheritance, in coutradistinction to a feud.

2. In this country the title to land is essentially allodial, and every tenant in fee simple has an absolute and perfect title, yet in technical language his estate is called an estate in fee simple, and the tenure free and common socage. 3 Kent, Com. 390; Cruise, Prel. Dis. c. 1, §13; 2 Bl. Com. 45.

For the etymology of this word, vide 3 Kent Com. 398 note; 2 Bouv. Inst. n. 1692.

The allodial aspect goes unnamed as such. Naming it as such since about 1885 or so (carpetbaggers destroying the Grand Register) is nonsense. One simply defeats the presumption of being a tenant on someone elses land.

I recall elucidating on another thread recently how one would go about curing an allodium by quiet title using the BOE (cured 9/11/01) for assurance (instead of insurance) upon the well recognized Torrens System of law.

And give Brian Rookard no mind. He is a Quatloser.
http://www.quatloos.com/Tax-Forums/p...ewprofile&u=25


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Old 04-03-2006, 04:29 PM
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You only "own" or control the territory or land you can convince someone else is yours. Just ask any Palastenien.
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Old 04-03-2006, 05:12 PM
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Agreed.

That is the assurance/insurance system behind the Torrens System of law. The baseline conviction of the current status quo is that you and I are mere tenants. Refering to the attached Word file, the husband/man was already presumed a tenant. The question the chief judge brought up was induced by the man processing a Libel of Review in only his name. So the USA went after the wife and the chief judge wanted a hearing about the presumption the wife was a tenant. The USA needed a tenant, not a landowner. If the USA could get the woman named as a co-tenant then that would reinstall the man as the tenant, even after the LoR had proven otherwise. The trick was not to acquiesce to the woman/wife being a co-tenant.


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Old 04-03-2006, 05:18 PM
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Thanks David,
That really makes some snapses click in my head. My biggest issue now is not becoming adversarial when I happen to bump into policy enforcers/agents/officers. Trying to remain Diplomatic and retaining my immunity.
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Old 04-10-2006, 12:59 PM
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David Merrill -

I would really like to understand the whole issue of 'allodium', and it seems that you have a firm grasp. If you lived locally it would be nice to learn from you personally. As it is, where can I study this matter, on a forum or otherwise?
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