True Allodialism

[squirrel]

Church, Religious Society, School, or Research Facility.

Using a Corporate sole, you may remove your property from the tax rolls and make the property tax immune, rather than tax exempt. The first amendment makes Mortmain Acts illegal. The state cannot prevent donations of land to churches under any condition . If you choose this method, I recommend that you not attempt to identify the use of the property as anything other than that which it actually is. If you “home-school” your children or grandchildren, then a religious society that specializes in education could be one of your choices. A Naturopath could describe his operation as a healing ministry and accept donations. The exact procedure for creating and operating a Corporation Sole varies from state to state and is discussed in the next chapter.

Building Permits
Building permits can be dealt with easily if you have “fee simple” title for your land or if you paid for your land with at least twenty-one silver dollars (so you are under common law) or if you have allodial title. The way you deal with them is to simply ignore them. How are they going to prosecute? Take you to court? Where is their contract? Who gave them permission? Read about “Writ of Quo Warranto” in Blacks Law Dictionary and other sources.


Method 1 thru 5 I have posted are not intended to be given as legal advice, as with all information given, do your own research and come to your own conclusions and then act or you could hire an attorney to help you.

[Glenn]

I do not know if this has been posted here before so here it is again.

Allodial Title in Nevada.doc

Injoy

Glenn

[palani]

Glenn

And is there a presumption that the State of Nevada has any greater right to grant alloidal title to your property than I have to sell you a quit claim deed to the Brooklyn bridge?

I was under the impression that every state west of the Mississippi gave up title to their public lands prior to being granted statehood. How did they regain title to it?

Or is this something they are willing to go through every generation or so in the interest of commerce?

[Glenn]

oops did not mean to post this

Glenn

[Glenn]

Hey was just info I personally do not believe they have any right after they relinquish all interests in the impropriated lands to the congress for disposal from public to private.

Glenn

[palani]

No problem. I just wanted to bring up the point that the state in their artificial person capacity can be as much of a con man as anyone else. If fact, they do it more often and with such skill that you don't even realize that your fleece is the goal.

[Sharona]

Originally Posted by mystic one

whoa whoa. we have been going about this totally wrong. by getting a patent " your recording it in a state office".. you want to make sure there are no liens, if someone has allodial you want him to transfer it to you. but you never want to "patent" it as this is recording it in the office. We are obsessed with paperwork , but the key is getting an apprasial and getting it of of any tax assesment records. since the statutory laws have changed, one method would just be updating the original patent if you can find the assigner. as original patents were essentially allodial. when the laws changed the patents mean nothing if you tryi to "record anything now"


the focus on patents is totally wrong. its actuallIn the state of Washington "Allodial Title" is listed in the Regulatory Codes as a bogus claim. However, that doesn't mean that you can't obtain "true" control of your land. You can never "own" it, as it belongs to G-d. But, you can have absolute control of it, which prevents government interference with your use of it and prevents levies or seizures against it.

I am aware of 2 methods of getting to that point. The first is by bringing the original Land Patent up to date. There is a gentleman in Michigan who teaches a 37 hour seminar on the process. He claims to have been doing it for 28 years and to be one of eight experts at it. I can get you contact info if you are interested.

The second method involves have the county tax assessor issue an appraisal on the land. Note I said appraisal and not assessment. This is a VERY important point. Most assessors will balk at doing an appraisal, but it is their public duty and you can subject them to civil fines if they refuse. Once you have the appraisal, you simply pay it. Now there are several ways to pay it, and I won't get into those at this time. But, the point is, once you have paid the appraised value to the state, the state no longer has any say about the property. The warranty deed will no longer exist and the property will no longer be recorded in the county records. After that point, if you want to sell the property, you will have to have a survey done which describes the property in the original survey terms, metes and bounds, and not as some lot in some development. And you sell it with a Bill of Sale.

Either of these in effect will give you what you are calling Allodial Title.y the reverse according to this.

If the County Assessor gives you an appraisal and you pay it off, wouldn't that be an excessive amount of money? The actual market value? Who can afford that?

[David Merrill]

Welcome to the forum Sharona!

[Sharona]

Originally Posted by squirrel

Church, Religious Society, School, or Research Facility.

Using a Corporate sole, you may remove your property from the tax rolls and make the property tax immune, rather than tax exempt. The first amendment makes Mortmain Acts illegal. The state cannot prevent donations of land to churches under any condition . If you choose this method, I recommend that you not attempt to identify the use of the property as anything other than that which it actually is. If you “home-school” your children or grandchildren, then a religious society that specializes in education could be one of your choices. A Naturopath could describe his operation as a healing ministry and accept donations. The exact procedure for creating and operating a Corporation Sole varies from state to state and is discussed in the next chapter.

Building Permits
Building permits can be dealt with easily if you have “fee simple” title for your land or if you paid for your land with at least twenty-one silver dollars (so you are under common law) or if you have allodial title. The way you deal with them is to simply ignore them. How are they going to prosecute? Take you to court? Where is their contract? Who gave them permission? Read about “Writ of Quo Warranto” in Blacks Law Dictionary and other sources.


Method 1 thru 5 I have posted are not intended to be given as legal advice, as with all information given, do your own research and come to your own conclusions and then act or you could hire an attorney to help you.

Since I am in the process of buying a piece of property (raw land) and building a home on it, would I just ask the construction financier to short the check by $21, then go down to the gold and silver dealer and pick up $21 silver dollars to finish off the purchase price? Would that place the land in common law status?

As far as allodial title goes, I don't know if there is still a provision for that in the State of Oregon. I read earlier tonight that the constitutional amendments of certain states removed allodial title rights...

[David Merrill]

That is a great idea. To short the price by $21. As opposed to moving the property into a trust for that same price - which is easily proven by jury opinion a fraudulent conveyance. However the financier's attorneys will likely forbid you mixing venues in the purchase price. The etymology of the very term attorn is to alienate from the original estate. [See attached Webster's 1828 definition.]

I think it was Jerseee who described a process a few months back about removing land from the tax register. From experience it would seem that is important before moving for any allodial claim. That may be all there is to it.

What I mean is that you will not find any kind of outward expression of recognition that you own your land in allodium. The outward expression of your allodial claim will only come in silence. Whenever the System breaks that silence you should learn how to nip that abruption with a quick Refusal for Cause.



Regards,

David Merrill.