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Old 03-31-2006, 03:14 AM
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whoa whoa. we have been going about this totally wrong. by getting a patent " your recording it in a state office".. you want to make sure there are no liens, if someone has allodial you want him to transfer it to you. but you never want to "patent" it as this is recording it in the office. We are obsessed with paperwork , but the key is getting an apprasial and getting it of of any tax assesment records. since the statutory laws have changed, one method would just be updating the original patent if you can find the assigner. as original patents were essentially allodial. when the laws changed the patents mean nothing if you tryi to "record anything now"


the focus on patents is totally wrong. its actuallIn the state of Washington "Allodial Title" is listed in the Regulatory Codes as a bogus claim. However, that doesn't mean that you can't obtain "true" control of your land. You can never "own" it, as it belongs to G-d. But, you can have absolute control of it, which prevents government interference with your use of it and prevents levies or seizures against it.

I am aware of 2 methods of getting to that point. The first is by bringing the original Land Patent up to date. There is a gentleman in Michigan who teaches a 37 hour seminar on the process. He claims to have been doing it for 28 years and to be one of eight experts at it. I can get you contact info if you are interested.

The second method involves have the county tax assessor issue an appraisal on the land. Note I said appraisal and not assessment. This is a VERY important point. Most assessors will balk at doing an appraisal, but it is their public duty and you can subject them to civil fines if they refuse. Once you have the appraisal, you simply pay it. Now there are several ways to pay it, and I won't get into those at this time. But, the point is, once you have paid the appraised value to the state, the state no longer has any say about the property. The warranty deed will no longer exist and the property will no longer be recorded in the county records. After that point, if you want to sell the property, you will have to have a survey done which describes the property in the original survey terms, metes and bounds, and not as some lot in some development. And you sell it with a Bill of Sale.

Either of these in effect will give you what you are calling Allodial Title.y the reverse according to this.
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Old 03-31-2006, 04:38 PM
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Hope you are prepared to repeat the process of bribing the state to let you claim sole ownership when the next body politic with a different view to proper social structure comes into power.

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Talking true allodialism part 3

Land 101 — A short foundational course on title and property rights especially as they relate to Land:

When dealing with sales contracts in general, a Title to property is proven by its receipt or sales contract. When you buy a bag of oranges from a store, the cashier gives you a sales receipt. As the value of the property increases more secure forms of title are used to insure that the seller has the right to sell the property and that the buyer has lawfully acquired the property. For example, when you buy a new car from a car dealer, the dealer uses a sales contract; and when the agreement is complete and funded the manufacturer includes with their documentation a Manufacturers Statement of Origin (MSO), which is a document that references where the manufacturer acquired each component of something they manufactured (thus providing evidence that they had the right to sell it). Your “Title” to the bag of oranges is your sales receipt. The Title to a car is the completed and executed Contract for Sale showing that the contract is paid in full. Some people ignorantly have the opinion that their title to their car is the Certificate of Title, issued to them by the corp. state; it is not. The Certificate of Title is merely Title Insurance.
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Land Title was historically the most significantly tracked private property known. Up until the 1940’s, when you acquired a parcel of Land in The United States of America, you received the complete set of transfer documents from the Land Patent to the present, with the Land Patent on the bottom and every transfer document between its issuance to your present Deed signed and sealed on the top, wrapped in hide, velum or parchment to secure that such documents would endure. Today people know next to nothing about Land or land rights and trust their Real Estate Agent and Title Company (with its attorneys) did everything right when Escrow closes issuing their Warranty Deed and Title Insurance policy.

We know of one case this year the funds were paid in full at closing and the title company completed all of the documents to the satisfaction of all parties. The title company now needed to file and record the documents and they would be mailed to all parties. The bank that had held a mortgage with the Seller completed their documents and mailed them to the Seller and to the County Clerk and Recorder, but no documents were ever sent to the Buyer. After a couple of months the Buyer tried to contact the Title Company to find that they had gone out of business and the County Clerk and Recorder had no record of the transfer to the Buyer. They had record that the property was free and clear of all liens and encumbrances but it remained on their records as the property of the Seller. About a month later the Title Company was restored back into business, but they had no record of the missing records. Luckily the matter was ultimately resolved and proper records were generated and recorded at the County Clerk and Recorder’s Office, but it could have ended very differently. The problem, these people did not receive their original documents at closing.

100 years ago people would have thought such trust to be pure insanity!

To understand what happened to proper land transfers we must learn a bit about history. Up until the Mayflower landed at Plymouth Rock there were no successful colonies founded in this new land. The fort at Jamestown had been built bet every year everybody the went there died. Being assigned here by the British or the French was rightfully considered a death sentence by the people. The King of Great Britain had to come up with a way of getting people to be willing to come here so he offered what the people called “The King’s Folly”, which were Land Grants made Patent. The people called it that because if a King were to grant Land to a freeman was the same as to recognize the man’s equal sovereign rights to his own private Kingdom! Such a thing would be pure folly for a King and to come to this death sentence to secure such a right of Kings would be folly because you would die for the honor. But, a group of people, now called “Puritans” that fled to Holland to avoid the religious persecution of the King learned of this “folly” and believed it was the only way they could live free and worship God as they chose. So, they moved back to England and for several years negotiated for this “Land Grant made Patent” with the full right of self rule. The problem with their negotiations was that they had little funds and could not pay for their passage to the new land. In the end they got everything they wanted, the Land Patents, self rule and passage but they had to pay for the passage with 50% of their production from their land for seven years.

Initially the King of Great Britain called this whole continent “Virginia”. But once the Puritans landed they flourished and new cities sprang up all over the place. Seven years after the Mayflower landed, in “Hartford, Connecticut”, the people from three principle cities, formed a Constitution to establish a Union they called, “United States of America”. From that time until the present, in The United States of America, Title to Land is passed by Land Patent.

That Union grew in trade expanding to what became the thirteen original States whose people eventually formed “The United States of America” under its Constitution for the United States of America. And since that time, whenever additional Territories came to The United States of America the respective Treaties recognized that the Land belonged to the people, of their own natural right. As those Territories became States in the Union of States of The United States of America, they and the people of that territory had to give up all right and title to the unappropriated land (available non-private land) within that territory to the dispossession of the United States. In other words, the States could not own land unless it was thereafter directly granted to it by the United States Government or unless they privately acquired it by contract from its private land owners. Once the United States had control of such Land Congress passed Acts that showed how the people could lawfully secure their Land by claim and then issued Land Patents to the people as their claims accordingly came in.

Again, to this very day, in The United States of America, Title to Land is passed only by Land Patent, which secures the Land to the named party and to his/her/their heirs and assigns forever. Deeds to land then prove the assignment of the Land Patent passes to new heirs and assigns of the original Land Patent holder. An Abstract of Title (like the MSO) proves the unbroken chain of assignment from Patent to present Deed, but a “Perfect Title” consists of the actual Land Patent and chain of Deeds (or certified copies of the same) from the patent to the present. Therefore, Land Rights in the United States of America are always secured by Land Patent, which Title is proven by its Perfect Title or Certified Abstract of Title to the present.

The federal courts have made it quite clear, “The patent alone passes land from the United States to the grantee and nothing passes a perfect title to public lands but a patent.” Wilcox v. Jackson, 10 L.Ed. 264. The United States Supreme Court has also ruled, “State statutes that give less authoritative ownership of title than the patent can not even be brought into federal court.” Langdon v. Sherwood, 124 U.S. 74, 81 (1887). Which ruling followed a long chain of case law with rulings like this, “I affirm that a patent is unimpeachable at law, except, perhaps, when it appears on its own face to be void; and the authorities on this point are so uniform and unbroken in the courts, federal and state, that little else will be necessary beyond a reference to them. … Once perfect on its face [a patent] is not to be avoided, in a trial at law, by anything save an elder patent. It is not to be affected by evidence or circumstances which might show that the impeaching party might prevail in a court of equity. A patent is evidence, in a court of law, of the regularity of all previous steps to it, and no facts behind it can be investigated. A patent cannot be collaterally avoided at law, even for fraud. A patent, being superior title, must of course, prevail over colors of title; nor is it proper for any state legislation to give such titles, which are only equitable in nature with a recognized legal status in equity courts, precedence over the legal title in a court of law. ” Hooper et. al. v. Scheimer, 64 U.S. 235 (1859)

Today, when people learn about Land Patents and the power secured within them to preserve Land and property rights, they want to get a Land Patent thinking it is something they have to acquire separately from the conventional Deeds. However, in almost every case the Land Patent for the land they want already exists; and was likely issued over a hundred years ago. Back in the late 1940’s people started to see a thing called Title Insurance (more on that later) and regularly thereafter if people did not insist of having a Perfect Title of a Certified Abstract of Title, they got Title Insurance with their Warranty Deed. By 1970, Abstracts and Perfect Titles were becoming rare and today they are at times hard to get if not impossible.

You may remember from the Supreme Court case last cited above, the state legislatures cannot even pass statutes that regulate or control Land transfers or land ownership. But, the property appurtenant to land is definitely a different matter. Such property can be bought sold and traded at will and such transactions can be set in commerce, which can be statutorily controlled. Such transactions are called, “Real Estate Transactions”. Real Estate statutes are completely different from Land Law, which is why Real Estate Agents, Real Estate Attorneys and Title company agents are not typically educated in Land Law. To so educate such Real Estate professionals would be counter productive to the banking industry and mortgage providers and their requirement for Title Insurance protection in all such transactions.
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:33 PM
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To understand the difference between Real Estate and Land we note, by definition: “’Land’ is not restricted to the earth’s surface, but extends below and above the surface. Nor is it confined to solids, but may encompass within its bounds such things as gases and liquids. A definition of ‘land’ along the lines of ‘a mass of physical matter occupying a space’ also is not sufficient, for an owner of land may remove part or all of that physical matter, as by digging it up and carrying away the soil, but would nevertheless retain as part of his ‘land’ the space that remains. Ultimately, as a juristic concept, ‘land’ is simply an area of three dimensional space, its position being defined by natural or imaginary points located by reference to the earth’s surface. ‘Land’ is not the fixed contents of that space, although, as we shall see, the owner of that space may well own those fixed contents. Land is immoveable, as distinct from chattels, which are moveable; it is also, in its legal significance, indestructible. The contents of the space may be physically severed, destroyed or consumed, but the space itself, and so the ‘land’, remains immutable.” Peter Butt, Land Law 9 (2nd ed. 1988)

Land Patents secure two separate kinds of property rights: appurtenant rights and hereditary rights; which two types of rights also include two separate kinds of property: tangible property (Real Estate) and intangible property (Land).
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:34 PM
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In Kingdoms, like England, it is well recognized that all of the Land is owned by the King and Queen; when they recognize private ownership of the property appurtenant to the Land, such ownership is known to be held in “feudal tenure”. So is the nature of any land and property ownership when the land and property are held by separate owners. When all right and title to land and property are held by the same person, beholding to no one, such ownership is known to be held “in fee simple absolute”, or “in fee simple”, or simply “in fee”; such ownership is also known as an allodial title. Please note in all of the above the word “fee” has nothing to do with a price, rather it is derived from “feudal” and means simple fealty or the Land and property are held by the same owner.

‘Land’ is described by its two dimensional boundary with extents that go from the center of the earth to the heavens above, such a two dimensional boundary is described in a Land Patent, which secures a specific parcel of Land and its contents as “hereditaments”. “Appurtenances” may also be inheritable and are separately secured in the Land Patent and are defined as ‘that which pertains to the land; including anything that fills that space defined by the Land description; for example things like: air, dirt, chemical deposits, minerals, shrubs, trees, buildings, water, fish, livestock, wild animals and private property sitting on the land, etc.’ The Land Patent expressly “grants” these patent secured rights to the named patent recipient and to their heirs and assigns, forever. That means that the property (Real Estate) sitting within the borders of the Land is land patent secured to the lawful patent holder. That means that if one receives assignment to such land through an Abstracted Deed they already own it from the time the Land Patent was initially made and granted. That is why land, in this country, cannot be bought sold or traded. An ‘Abstracted Deed’ is one attached to all of the land assignment documents (Deeds, etc.) from land patent to present. It can be created by securing a competent abstract of title and attaching it to a competent current deed.

So, what is it that one pays for when one acquires land via purchase?
One pays for the appurtenances to the land. You see, even though the property appurtenant to the land is also mentioned in the Land Patent, it is removable from the land and therefore has a specific value separate from the land; therefore it is separately marketable for a price (contractible).

At this point we must interject a bit on contracts to be certain that you understand what contracts are and how they function. A Contract is defined by four elements:
1) a giver;
2) a receiver;
3) valuable consideration over time; and ,
4) acceptance.

That means, anytime these four elements exist in any situation, a contract exists. Contracts may be written or not. A written contract may exist even though a party, bound by it, has never seen or reviewed it, if they knew or should have known of its existence and its binding nature and they act upon it. Property, in and of itself cannot enter into a contract because it cannot by itself consider or accept an agreement.

A land patent does not limit your ability to contract. Wherefore, one can contract to subdivide their land and separately grant it to others, or sell off any part or the whole of it at will while keeping the remainder, or use any part of the related appurtenant property as collateral for debts like: property taxes, mortgage secured loans, credit cards, etcetera, even though there is no conveyance of the property from the Land unless or until a default to the contracted payment plan occurs. Even though a subdivision may so occur, the original Land Patent still applies to the whole parcel of land granted in the assignment and secures each subdivided part with equal power as if that part had been granted separately by the Land Patent to the respectively assigned landowners.


Mortgages are purely contractual. With most real estate mortgages a person agrees to secure the property located on their land as collateral to the debt described in the mortgage contract. The land is not related to the mortgage because it was forever granted freely, in the Land Patent to all of the heirs and assigns of the original landowner named on the patent, with no dollar value; therefore it cannot be bargained or sold. Even so, the person making the contract is bound to the contract and must accordingly meet its terms. If a person in such a mortgage contract fails to meet its conditions, they agree to the default terms described in the contract. If they fail to meet those terms by sidestepping to their Land Patent secured rights they can be held accountable to fraud. All of this being accurate, the mortgage has absolutely nothing to do with the Land Patent or with securing it.
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Old 03-31-2006, 07:35 PM
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It is true — when a Land Patent is first issued to its named party there can be no mortgage or other limiting contract that would limit the absolute fee simple nature of the land or its appurtenances. However, once the Land is secured by Land Patent subsequent mortgages related to the real estate located on that Land are not relevant to the Land Patent or its assignment. In fact, you may notice, the process of getting a real estate loan requires that you must already own the Land and its relevant appurtenances or the bank will not loan the funds. That’s why, today, when people make real estate purchases using bank loans they must go through a title company’s escrow.

Follow the process:

First — The seller wants to sell and the buyer wants to buy.

Second — This presupposes that the seller has the right to sell and the buyer has the funds to buy. For the seller to have the right to sell he must have “Title”.

In most cases today the seller does not know if he has Title or not because all he ever received was his Deed and a Title Insurance Policy (which means a title insurance company secures that the last purchase of that particular real estate had no problems with the sale or conveyance to the party the buyer is securing the property from and if the title is not good the insurance company will pay the bank back the funds they loaned). Title to the Land starts with the relevant Land Patent and moves through a chain of assignment from transfer document to transfer document to the current owner—each document from the Land Patent to the present are part of the chain of title with the Land Patent being the actual Title and your Deed being you right of assignment to that Title. A Certified Abstract may stand as evidence of your Title and may be acceptable by a Court, but a proper complete Title will include either the original documents or certified copies of the same from Land Patent to present.

You may notice at this point that if all we are dealing with here is the sale of Real Estate the Land may not be included. The landowner could effectively sell the Real Estate and reserve the Land and even begin charging “ground rent”, which you would have to pay or you could be evicted from the Land.

For a buyer to meet the conditions of assignment he must have the funds necessary to meet the seller’s conditions. If the buyer does not have sufficient funds he may use bank funds but the bank will require him to secure the loan with the Real Estate. In order to do that the bank will authorize such paperwork as to guarantee that if the buyer can secure the transaction the bank will provide the funds. With that escrow opens:
• Third — The Title Company’s Escrow opens:

To open escrow:

The buyer and seller provide the Title company with their contractual agreement;

The seller provides his title to the land, which includes either his abstract (uncommon today) or his Warranty Deed and his Title Insurance Policy;

The buyer provides his personal information and the banks guarantee of funding.


the seller’s agreement requires that he will grant the Land to the buyer if the buyer can pay his price for the appurtenances to the land (Real Estate), which is proven with the banks performance agreement so the seller grants title to the Land to the buyer;

the buyer now has the right to the Land and the Real Estate; and,

the Title Company sells the seller a new Title Insurance Policy for the buyer and the bank

the Title Company provides the bank with proof of the Title Insurance Policy and assurance that the buyer owns the respective Land;

the bank provides the loaned funds to the seller for the buyer;

according to contract the Title Company generates a respective Trust Deed related to the Real Estate to secure the mortgage to the bank with the appurtenant property (not the Land)

• Fourth — escrow closes on completion of all of its contractually required elements:


the seller is given certified bank funds;

a Trustee for the bank is given its Trust Deed to secure the mortgage;

the bank is given its copy of the new Title Insurance Policy and its copy of the Trust Deed;

the buyer is given the Land with control of the property (Real Estate, i.e. property, i.e. appurtenances), the Title Insurance Policy and his copy of the Mortgage and the respective Trust Deed;

the Title Company records all of the appropriate documents with the County Clerk and Recorder; and,

the County Clerk and Recorder returns the document to the parties as per the instructions from the Title Company.
So the real question is, ‘does the Land Patent have anything to do with a mortgage?’ And, the answer is—‘No.’ That also means that whether or not you have or have ever had a mortgage related to your property ownership, such a mortgage has no relation to your having received that grant or assignment secured by the Land Patent.

The other property ownership limitation people generally concern themselves with is property taxes. In fact property taxes are purely contractual. They are not constitutionally controlled, that is to say, they do not have to be uniform, apportioned or excise in their nature, because they are contractual. They are related to the Voter’s Registration contract. To understand property taxes, it is helpful to understand that the STATE OF ‘X’ (where “X” is related to a common State name) is a private corporation. Signing up as a registered voter is a voluntary choice. Once a person is a registered voter they become a participant in collaterally securing any property tax issue passed by the voters to any property they have in that state. This is why those in positions of governance always call this country a Democracy—because if 50%+ of the registered voters vote for a bond issue, all of the registered voters are subject to it.

Some people participate in property taxes already attached to a property by a previous owner when they acquire the property from the previous owner. They do this by accepting the obligation to pay the property taxes for the remainder of the year.

That is why most of the STATE OF ‘X’ entities charge their property taxes in arrears because so doing means the years taxes are not due and payable until after the year is over—if you close your purchase at some time that is not at the year’s end the taxes that were already contracted to by the previous owner would not have been paid so the seller agrees with you that you will pay them as a condition of the sale. When you pay those taxes you become the contracted party to pay them as time goes on.

The final way people contract to pay property taxes is the Corp. State sends out an assessment even though they have no existing contract for payment and the property owner pays the assessment; which payment stands as a signature act on the contract to pay the property taxes from that day forward. In any of these conditions the obligation to pay according to the voter’s registration contract is secured, regardless of whether the payer is a registered voter or not.

Zoning and Building Codes are a direct result of property taxes. When you put your property up as collateral to secure your payment of your contractually obligated property taxes, the Corp. State receives, from you, the authority to secure the value of your property with appropriate zoning regulations and building codes. This related element of control should be self explanatory. To eliminate the Corp. State’s authority to control your property through such statutory controls one would have to first eliminate any related obligation to property taxes.

The key to eliminating property taxes is, eliminate the contract.

To dispel the myth that property taxes cannot be eliminated, first remember, “people make contracts, property cannot.” That means: the obligation to pay property taxes is bound to the person so obligated and not to the property. People eliminate their obligation to the property taxing contract everyday by selling the property.

The best way to eliminate the contract is to never enter into it to begin with. When we acquire Land, and its respective property, we always pay with real money (gold or silver coin) for the purchase of the appurtenances to the Land; and we make sure we get the full assignment to the Land with a true Title to the Land (a Certified Abstract not simply the alleged assurance of Title Insurance); we also, make sure the Land and its appurtenances are free and clear of all encumbrances before closing.

If you entered into a property tax agreement either as a registered voter or by accepting it from a previous contractee (or assessment) then one would need to eliminate the contract after the fact. The best way to do that is to prove the other party violated their fiduciary accountability to the contract thus breaching the contract. The easiest way is to eliminate the contract is, simply pay it off. At Team Law we have helped people learn how to properly perform these and other proprietary methods of handling such matters (some of which are very simple).
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With this informational foundation laid we can now show you how to secure your Land Patent secured rights.Securing a Land Patent is a bit more complex than simply having it properly assigned to you. Think about it: if someone gives you a gift and you choose not to accept it, who does it belong to?
It still belongs to the giver.That is the problem inherent with Land Patents. They are grants and should you not accept the gift (grant) it still belongs to the giver. The biggest difficulty most people have today is that they did not get a Certified Abstract when they acquired their property so they don’t even know if they have any Land rights and they have never seen or read the Land Patent itself and are often unaware that it exists. How could they have possibly accepted a gift they know nothing about? If a contest was raised challenging their title to the Land, they would not even know how to fight it, let alone know how their title was secured. We use copyrighted documents to secure that acceptance. Our documents have been the base of successful Land Right reviews for over 60 years.If you did not secure a Complete Title of original records or a Certified Abstract of Title to your Land, you cannot prove your actual ownership of it if that ever becomes necessary. If you have title insurance it will not protect any rights you may have to the land or to the property appurtenant to the Land. In a title battle title insurance will only cover the cost of the property when you purchased it (it will not cover its current value) and then only if the title insurance applies. Many title insurance policies exclude land patents. The only way you can prove ownership in a title battle is with proof that you have full title to the Land, which is only secured by the land patent and the chain of title from the land patent to the present. To secure your acceptance of the Land Patent(s) granted with your Land you must have the actual documents or certified copies of them. To secure your acceptance of the Land Patent(s) related to your Land you can follow these:Steps to secure your Land Patent:
First — You must have a true right to the land, i.e.: Warranty Deed, a well supported Quitclaim Deed, documented Assignment, Inheritance, etc.
Second — Find the land description on your right to the land and get it into land patent format. Land descriptions on Land Patents are almost all recorded in either Section, Township and Range format (hereafter “STRf”) or in “meets and bounds” (hereinafter “M&B”, a geographical description that starts at a known point and follows with a description of angles and measurements around the perimeter of the land). If the legal description of your land on your right to the land documents (hereafter “Warranty Deed”) is not in STRf, then you need to get it into that format for your Land Patent Claim documents (unless the land patent is in M&B). To do that you need to trace the legal description on your Warranty Deed back to STRf. For example, if your Deed says, “Lot 3 of the Titillandus Subdivision as recorded in the Gryffindor County Land Records”, then you go to the Gryffindor County Clerk and Recorder’s office and find the Titillandus Subdivision’s plat map. Find Lot 3 and locate the Section, Township and Range that include that Lot. Get a copy of the County’s original plat map of that subdivision (not a computer generated composite); you’ll especially need the part that legally describes the land; its usually on the first page. That part is called: “the legal”, and it almost always lists the Land description in STRf. While you’re there it won’t hurt to get a couple certified copies of your Warranty Deed from their records.
Third — With the description of your Land in STRf or M&B, you’re ready to go acquire a copy of the appropriate Land Patent for your Land. This is done by taking the legal description of your Land, in STRf, to the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and asking them (in their Land Patent records office) for a Certified copy of the Land Patent for the land represented by your Land description including, Section, Township, and Range. It’s a good idea to get at least two certified copies of the appropriate Patent and a copy of the “Patent Plat map” for the particular Township your land is in.
Fourth — Now that you have certified copies of your Land Patent and certified copies and or originals of your Warranty Deed you’re ready to send those certified copies to us for our completion of your Land Patent Acceptance documents.
This is where you start if you have said Complete Title or Certified Abstract of Title, either way, for us to do the work we do in preparing proper acceptance documents, we must be able to track both you and the land in question from the present to the Land Patent. We do not generally verify the entire abstract, that is up to you, we do use the Land Patent itself and your right to the Land documents (Warranty Deed) with the plat maps necessary to show that your land is within the Land Patent description; therefore we need all necessary certified documents to do that.
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Having done quite a bit of property work it is clear that the writer of the above drivel really knows next to nothing about property law, estates, tenure, and the passing of property.

Kinda sad to think that anyone would rely on the above screed.
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That means: the obligation to pay property taxes is bound to the person so obligated and not to the property. People eliminate their obligation to the property taxing contract everyday by selling the property.

Utter and absolute garbage.

In fact, taxes are a lien on the property, and attach to the property. A person who buys property generally takes subject to any liens, taxes, encumbrances (unless there is a specific agreement that the seller will pay off such liens at closing).

Property taxes are not attached to the person. You will never be pursued by the state for non-payment of property taxes ... they just go after the property if you fail to pay.
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