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Old 07-17-2004, 11:04 PM
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Speaking directly to ALLODIAL TITLE, and such a title does not in any manner imply or state that the property in question is, or has been, abandoned.



You must grapple HEAD-ON with the "conversion" of real property to a communist system which abolishes private property, via stealth.



Thus, your "taxes" are your tribute to the REAL LANDLORD -- the State!



Thus, you must smoke out any and all legal "interests" which the State may claim against that property: the common law remedy for doing that is a Quiet Title proceeding.



Once final judgment has been reached in a Quiet Title proceeding, all title searches after that point need go back only as far as that judgment, and not any further, because the final judgment in such a case is truly FINAL for all legal purposes.



Thus, proof of your allodial title will be found in the Office of the Clerk of your county court, and NOT in the County Recorder's Office.



One remedy you can obtain from the county court, in a Quiet Title proceeding, is to litigate the legal ramifications of the existing recordation: e.g. if it is "fee simple" and if there is, in fact, a secret lien against such a recordation in favor of the Federal Reserve, then the Federal Reserve would need to appear in court -- to lay claim to that lien. If they did NOT do so, then they will have abandoned their claim -- by failing to contest your claim to ALLODIAL TITLE.



Basically, by serving NOTICE of your Quiet Title proceeding on the Federal Reserve, it is then be time for them to PUT UP or SHUT UP -- FOREVER!!





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Old 07-18-2004, 03:52 AM
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Skygzr,



Thank you sooo much for posting a strategy!!!!



Lately folks have been posting non-significant stuff instead of strategies to deal with BB!! This is a refreshing post to read.....Thank you very much! It stimulates thought and conversation. It moves forward and is not stagnant.



Well from comprehension--allodial title is just a result of a land patent. It is not a process but rather a condition of what the title will be after ascerting the rights in the land patent.



Actually, I do not think the Fed has anything to do with property but of course I could be wrong since I am not sure. If folks just ascert their rights in the land patent--I think all will be fine.



I am in the beginning stages of doing such a thing myself.

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Old 07-18-2004, 08:12 PM
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How does one do a Quiet Title?



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Old 07-19-2004, 12:33 AM
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From my studies (this means I could be mistaken) Quiet Title is done after the land patent and it basically lays to rest any claims or disputes as to who is the owner.



CHeck the downloads section for the process.
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Hi All

You have to Quiet Title before you can build your patent sandwich. The title must be clear, free of liens and encumberances.

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Old 08-11-2004, 01:45 AM
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Would property taxes be considered a lien--even though it is unlawful and unverifiable?
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Old 08-15-2004, 07:22 PM
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Yeah - and what about federal tax lien? Even though it too is unlawful and unverifiable?



I haven't even attempted to learn about the land patent procedure yet. I'm still trying to find a relatively simple methodology in removing the lien. (Yeah, yeah - for those who want to inform me that it is NOT a lien - but merely a NOTICE of lien - forget it. I've heard that a zillion timers from people who haven't the slightest clue as to how to have it removed at the county level in some relatively simple manner).



So, although I am a willing student at any time for anything, I really need to have this lien removed in order to move on in so many other things. This blood-sucker thing is really holding me back.



I know Jerseee had mentioned sending a VOD and CPN, but we all know that it will be ignored and not have the effect that I desire - to abolish the thing. I am also not willing to 'pay' it in cash (which they will accept and respond) since it was totally void from the beginning.



Sorry for the rambling - just lookin' for help.



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