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Originally Posted by jdogpupil
I'm not familiar with a Quitclaim Deed form:
Here's my question -
I've found a particular property to adversely possess and it was suggested to me that I have someone record a deed quitclaiming all of the signatory's interest to me. On the form it reads "recording requested by". Who does it indicate? The grantor, or the grantee?
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Did you know that a deed need not be signed? See Bouvier's entry for DEED. The most important criteria is the deed be written. Read the post by kgod999 and/or read the thread by mikah2k
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11-08-2006, 03:31 PM
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Riddle. Do you know what they call an unsigned Deed?
Answer. A worthless piece of paper.
An unsigned deed and $1.25 might buy you coffee at Starbucks, and provide you with a napkin.
Bouvier's makes a fine door stop, but has no legal standing whatsoever, it is a basic source for legal definitions and it has no legal standing of any kind.
If a Deed isn't signed and authenticated according to local law it has no validity at all.
The only thing a Quit Claim Deed grants is whatever interest the signer has in the given property, if they have none, then all you have is a Deed granting you an interest in nothing. It won't give you any interest in the property unless the person signing it has some interest.
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11-08-2006, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent
Riddle. Do you know what they call an unsigned Deed?
Answer. A worthless piece of paper.
An unsigned deed and $1.25 might buy you coffee at Starbucks, and provide you with a napkin.
Bouvier's makes a fine door stop, but has no legal standing whatsoever, it is a basic source for legal definitions and it has no legal standing of any kind.
If a Deed isn't signed and authenticated according to local law it has no validity at all.
The only thing a Quit Claim Deed grants is whatever interest the signer has in the given property, if they have none, then all you have is a Deed granting you an interest in nothing. It won't give you any interest in the property unless the person signing it has some interest.
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Correction; That would be Legal diction.
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11-08-2006, 06:12 PM
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Correction: dictionary
diction: from the latin dictio - a speaking
diction is the pronunciation of words, definition is the meaning of them.
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11-08-2006, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent
Correction: dictionary
diction: from the latin dictio - a speaking
diction is the pronunciation of words, definition is the meaning of them.
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Please explain to me why they are not definitionaries.
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11-08-2006, 06:58 PM
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I have looked online for a dictionary that says that dictionary means definitions.
Here's a list of online dictionaries.
http://www.onelook.com/?w=dictionary&ls=a
Maybe you can find one that says that dictionary means definitions.
here's what a couple dictionaries say.
From the free dictionary/ n. pl. dic·tion·ar·ies
1. A reference book containing an alphabetical list of words, with information given for each word, usually including meaning, pronunciation, and etymology.
2. A book listing the words of a language with translations into another language.
3. A book listing words or other linguistic items in a particular category or subject with specialized information about them: a medical dictionary.
4. Computer Science
a. A list of words stored in machine-readable form for reference, as by spelling-checking software.
b. An electronic spelling checker.
From Mariam Webster online/ dic·tio·nary
Pronunciation: 'dik-sh&-"ner-E, -"ne-rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nar·ies
Etymology: Medieval Latin dictionarium, from Late Latin diction-, dictio word, from Latin, speaking
1 : a reference source in print or electronic form containing words usually alphabetically arranged along with information about their forms, pronunciations, functions, etymologies, meanings, and syntactical and idiomatic uses
2 : a reference book listing alphabetically terms or names important to a particular subject or activity along with discussion of their meanings and applications
3 : a reference book giving for words of one language equivalents in another
4 : a computerized list (as of items of data or words) used for reference (as for information retrieval or word processing)
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11-08-2006, 07:14 PM
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BTW.
I agree that
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Bouvier's makes a fine door stop, but has no legal standing whatsoever,
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11-08-2006, 07:20 PM
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jumping in on last bit of thread..probably shouldn't!
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Originally Posted by mikah2k
Did you know that a deed need not be signed? See Bouvier's entry for DEED. The most important criteria is the deed be written. Read the post by kgod999 and/or read the thread by mikah2k
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My understanding of adverse possession, oh heck, let's just post the definition...bolds are within the definition, italics or colours are mine
ADVERSE POSSESSION a method of acquiring complete title to land against all others, including the record owner, though certain acts over an uninteruuped period of time, as prescribed by statute. For those intersted...13 Do.2d649,650;502P.2d 672, 682;226 S.W. 2d 484,486. It is usually prescribed that such possesion must be actual, visible, open, notorious, hostile, under claim of right, definite, continous, exclusive etc.. 138 So. 2d 696m699l 71 /a, 2d 318m320. The purpose of such requirements is to give notice that such possession is not subordinate to the claims of others. 244 P. 2d 582, 584. Possession by a mortgagor is not generally considered to ripen into titile throught adverse possession because it is not nororious or hostile. 9 N.W. 2d 421, 426. See hostile possession; notorious possession.
So there ya go, set up shop openly...
Just make sure you have VERY clean hands brother...VERY CLEAN hands.
Perhaps you should review thread called "Standing on the Land" sorry for lack of credit, just don't remember. (think...Palani?)
(Not you Mikah[to review that thread], but original poster, as I said, jumping in).
As Mikah seems to be referring to, and as I have taken from dictionary, adverse possession requires no "doing" except to DO it openly.
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11-08-2006, 10:48 PM
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Please explain to me why they are not definitionaries.
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Dictionaries were originally teaching tools to teach people how to pronounce a language, hence dictionary. They were a novelty when the books first began to be printed and there was exchange of ideas. It is only in most recent times that their function became more slanted towards meaning than pronunciation.
With regard to jdogpupil's original post. In this day and age, adverse possession is almost an impossibility, and may not even be recognized in your jurisdiction. In any case, the property you have your eye on, has an owner somewhere, and they will not take kindly to your actions, and at the best you will run off by the police for trespassing and at the worst they will throw you in jail. Adverse possession requires open, adverse possession for a number of years, 20 is the usual number, including paying the taxes on the property in question, and since your name won't be on the title that will be a bit difficult. Then it will require going to court and getting the title changed into your name.
If you have your heart set on something cheap, check and see if your city has a homesteading program to redevelope rundown neighborhoods.
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11-08-2006, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Notorial dissent
Dictionaries were originally teaching tools to teach people how to pronounce a language, hence dictionary. They were a novelty when the books first began to be printed and there was exchange of ideas. It is only in most recent times that their function became more slanted towards meaning than pronunciation.
With regard to jdogpupil's original post. In this day and age, adverse possession is almost an impossibility, and may not even be recognized in your jurisdiction. In any case, the property you have your eye on, has an owner somewhere, and they will not take kindly to your actions, and at the best you will run off by the police for trespassing and at the worst they will throw you in jail. Adverse possession requires open, adverse possession for a number of years, 20 is the usual number, including paying the taxes on the property in question, and since your name won't be on the title that will be a bit difficult. Then it will require going to court and getting the title changed into your name.
If you have your heart set on something cheap, check and see if your city has a homesteading program to redevelope rundown neighborhoods.
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Careful with Adverse Possession; a neighbor of the land you want will snitch on you to the local "police"
and they will prolaby arrest you for defiant trespass because the property you're standing on is STILL IN Commerce!!! you need to remove the land from commerce expeditiously.
and if you dont, the "judge" will decide against you unless you're a student of this Forum because the property still belongs to the commercial govt corporation.
step lightly please.
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